entnervt Posted February 5, 2011 Posted February 5, 2011 FT, not that good this time, but interesting: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm13477857 --- (14:15) ネコン(Valkenhayn) vs FT(Hakumen) http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm13478361 --- (12:28 ) FT(Hakumen) vs ファラリス(Hazama) http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm13478659 --- (14:26) FT(Hakumen) vs ft(ハクメン) vs つな缶(Hazama) <--- lol, not seen this `til now, (15:52)j.B hits as CH, antoher j.B, jc,j.B,j.214B, j.2A,j.C. nice match with funny ending http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm13483768 --- Shadow(Bang/Hakumen) vs フィオ(Hazama/Litchi) <-- regarding to gamenyarth, is this player Shadow, even if the nick FantasyEVE is used (Hakumen vs Litchi 04:45) http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm13484442 --- didn`t work http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm13484031 --- (00:23) からさわ(Hakumen) vs ZEL(Tager) nice stuff: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm13481358 --- (00:01) Hakumen vs Lambda http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm13481611 --- (04:15) Platinum vs Hakumen, Jin vs Hakumen http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm13481819 --- Hakumen vs Platinum <-- didn`t work too, that`s why no time http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm13482011 --- Hakumen vs μ-12 <-- as above http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm13484468 --- (00:25) Hakumen vs Lambda <-- this player seems not to be very experienced with Haku
Warhound Posted February 5, 2011 Posted February 5, 2011 Tried watching those vids using the redirector. Couldn't watch em.
BladeOfJustice7 Posted February 5, 2011 Author Posted February 5, 2011 Tried watching those vids using the redirector. Couldn't watch em. Try now, when they were initially posted I couldn't watch them either. But their working now. All the videos that are posted are found in the last two pages of the BBCS video thread btw.
entnervt Posted February 6, 2011 Posted February 6, 2011 (edited) Is that a problem? I searched them by myself, I don`t check the BBCS-vid-thread tbh. Edit: found those today: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm13512783 --- (04:17) フルクトース(Hakumen) vs Alice(Arakune) <-- nice http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm13512842 --- (00:05) フルクトース(Hakumen) vs Valkenhayn, (06:50) Alice(Arakune) vs フルクトース(Hakumen), (10:05) Alice(Arakune) vs フルクトース(Hakumen) <-- the 2nd match vs Ara is fun to watch Edited February 6, 2011 by entnervt
Warhound Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 Hm, I really like the usage of 6A > hop Hotaru, I think that'd catch a few mashers off guard. I'm seeing a surprising lack of hop Tsubaki, and against two characters with no real DP no less.
zdravkelja Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 Well you can combo of it only in corner now, so it's not as effective as it used to be. But yeah, I also expected to see more of it.
Warhound Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 Yeah that's the thing though, the guy had them in the corner a few times and he could have really used that hop Tsubaki.
entnervt Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm13519361 --- (09:50) えるもあ(Ragna) vs てんち(Hakumen) http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm13520659 --- (03:12) あべし(Ragna) vs てんち(Hakumen) <-- nice http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm13521000 --- (00:00) ラッキー(Litchi) vs てんち(Hakumen) <-- nice too, the Litchi is played well http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm13528911 --- (00:04) かにみそ(Hakumen) vs 鹿の角(Jin), (08:55)アキ(Hakumen) vs てるた(Taokaka) <-- the match vs Tao is so disgusting... http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm13529289 --- (00:02) かにみそ(Hakumen) vs ナーガ(Λ-11)
BladeOfJustice7 Posted February 8, 2011 Author Posted February 8, 2011 Well I haven't formally said this, but I'm only posting youtube videos. Unless what you have is only found on nico I'll post it. Otherwise I just wait unitl someone uploads it on youtube. Even Sophis can be used to upload videos onto youtube for us. Not that I don't appreciate the help form you all, it's very much appreciated how you guys have been providing me with videos to make my searching and posting easier. That you all of you. That being said, sorry for taking so long with updating the thread. I'll do my best to update when I can. Alas I suffer from haku-main syndrome. Busy as hell and I'm lazy to boot. But I've done a massive re-haul on the thread. I've now made it so that all links lead directly to the time the matches for haku start. I've not only done so with all the most recent vids but the old ones as well. If you find any errors with regards to that, I didn't check all the old vids to see if they work fine, let me know. Enjoy the videos, I haven't gone through the most recent set of CS2 vids. Will try to do so in coming days. Tired as fuck right now.
qwerty Posted February 8, 2011 Posted February 8, 2011 Hmm... Hmmmmm...... HMMMMMMM........ ... He's legit. i'm glad you guys like my student. i've been trying to find some good cs1 haku vs kune vids for him, but that's proving to be harder than i thought it would be (emphasis on good, here). any takers?
BladeOfJustice7 Posted February 8, 2011 Author Posted February 8, 2011 (edited) How's this QWERTY? http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=adakune+hakumen&aq=f You'll see cs1 vids as you scroll down. EDIT: weren't you just making fun of WJM in the Norcal thread not too long ago? Anyways he looks like he really knows the tager matchup, I picked up a few things from him, albeit some are risky. But his match against hazama looked like a fish out of the sea. Edited February 8, 2011 by BladeOfJustice7
qwerty Posted February 8, 2011 Posted February 8, 2011 oh, that? i was just glad somebody finally referred to him as a good hakumen player, lol. kune and hazama are my least favorite matchups, and i think he'll agree with me. both require hakumen to fundamentally change the way he plays (kune to a much greater extent than hazama, though haz is almost as annoying for other reasons), which is why he's still struggling with them.
Sophisticat Posted February 8, 2011 Posted February 8, 2011 Even Sophis can be used to upload videos onto youtube for us. Not that I don't appreciate the help form you all, it's very much appreciated how you guys have been providing me with videos to make my searching and posting easier. That you all of you. Enjoy the videos, I haven't gone through the most recent set of CS2 vids. Will try to do so in coming days. Tired as fuck right now. Gj on the re-haul. I'd upload the vids, but there's too many of them and I hate Nico's whack video loading with a passion so I'm not about to go through them. If anyone can point me to those with top play/interesting stuff, I'd be willing to upload e'm. i'm glad you guys like my student. i've been trying to find some good cs1 haku vs kune vids for him, but that's proving to be harder than i thought it would be (emphasis on good, here). any takers? This matchup is pretty rare to catch on camera. But for what it's worth, I've got one of Sendatu (online JP beast) v. Random Ara: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNftdRbUy8Q Tell you what. We require more Walljumpman, you want Ara. We provide, you deliver. Have we a deal? EDIT: weren't you just making fun of WJM in the Norcal thread not too long ago? Qwerty's like one of those old Kung-Fu dudes who hate your existence until you finally prove yourself. Proof: oh, that? i was just glad somebody finally referred to him as a good hakumen player, lol. kune and hazama are my least favorite matchups, and i think he'll agree with me. both require hakumen to fundamentally change the way he plays (kune to a much greater extent than hazama, though haz is almost as annoying for other reasons), which is why he's still struggling with them. Hazama is really annoying to fight. You can cut chains, but that doesn't do much when Haz can disrespect you all day. Bleh. Speaking of Ara, I played vs. a good one online this weekend who put me into curse, locked me down, then Astraled. He barely had a pixel of hp left. There was 1 second left on the timer. I almost RQ'd. Fuck that guy. Also, I think Tao is on par with these two for annoying-ness. These three characters are, imo, Haku's worst matchups.
WallJumpMan Posted February 8, 2011 Posted February 8, 2011 dang i wish my money match against dacidbro's bang last sat was recorded (which i won btw) cuz it was a pretty good demonstration of the haku vs bang match up imo o well:v:
qwerty Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 Also, I think Tao is on par with these two for annoying-ness. These three characters are, imo, Haku's worst matchups. i would be inclined to agree. tao is even more annoying than hazama if you're playing a tao that knows how to move. i'm sure you're all tired of hearing this by now but instant blocking is immensely important- especially against tao. every bit of meter and every bit of frame advantage counts. as i recall, dacidbro himself called it a broken mechanic. congrats vineeth! you have achieved what i was never able to, because i didn't know how to combo off of CH 4C last february.
BladeOfJustice7 Posted February 9, 2011 Author Posted February 9, 2011 Arakune and Hazama from what I know of their match up requires a lot of dexterity in your inputs as well as your ability to react. While I'm getting used to stick still, (I'm not so free anymore) the arakune match up was pretty free for me. I find it's better to pressure him as much as possible, but hazama, it's just weird. Mainly because his close range is a lot more effective than hakumens, and his long range is the hardest to deal with, cutting chains only happens like once a match on average against a competent hazama player. I find that match up very frustrating though, GJ WJM. You're proving yourself as a solid haku, like I said being in arakune's face and intelligently cutting projectiles in the mean time. Against his curse IB>Yukikaze, nuff said, IMO. And comboing off CH 4C is depending on what you're going for. Optimal damage would be, assuming you're in relatively close range is followed by a 3c x 2, if not 6c, or hop wait for them to recover and grab immediately as they do. Thanks for the recognition nolan. I hate playing arakune especially online, because curse is actually a threat since I can't use IB>Yukikaze. Fucking annoying. QWERTY, your status should say "ARE YOU OK?" imo.
Sophisticat Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 (edited) Arakune and Hazama from what I know of their match up requires a lot of dexterity in your inputs as well as your ability to react. While I'm getting used to stick still, (I'm not so free anymore) the arakune match up was pretty free for me. I find it's better to pressure him as much as possible, but hazama, it's just weird. You need to play the really good 'kunes if the match is free for you, Eb. Pedro doesn't count. And comboing off CH 4C is depending on what you're going for. Optimal damage would be, assuming you're in relatively close range is followed by a 3c x 2, if not 6c, or hop wait for them to recover and grab immediately as they do. Personally, I either go for a 1s corner carry or stagger tech oki off 4c CH. Damage isn't worth it unless it's meterless and you need it, imo. Edited February 9, 2011 by Sophisticat
BladeOfJustice7 Posted February 9, 2011 Author Posted February 9, 2011 You need to play the really good 'kunes if the match is free for you, Eb. Pedro doesn't count. Meant my cousin, haven't played Pedro's arakune.
mAc Chaos Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 (edited) I usually go for Gurren > 623AA > etc, off 4C CH, unless it's too early in the match or I don't have the stars. Otherwise it's just 6C or 4C again. I almost always end the match with like 8 stars, win or lose, so I might as well. I don't really know of any good Kune matchup vids either... I never really bothered to search them out since, what's the point, I might as well just start pulling out my teeth one by one with a pair of pliers instead if I'm going to play against Arakune. :P There aren't really any good Arakunes I know of to get experience against anyway, except CopperDabbit and MDK sama and Kousaka (in America). There are probably others out there but I haven't heard of them. Edited February 9, 2011 by mAc Chaos
qwerty Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 you'd be surprised at how many stealth bb players there are. fun fact: at this shitty random tournament in summer of 09, i played ricky ortiz (yes, that one) in the first round and almost won.
Dacidbro Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 Ey yo Vineeth, good shit in that MM. Next time it should really be more than FT2, but you played really really well for those two matches. Hype streamed money match next NCI??
mAc Chaos Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 Arrggghh, now I see why people say Tao is so safe. I played XDest and couldn't do anything at all pretty much. He could just fly around with a small life lead and force me to take risks then zip in and punish, or just fly around and bait things. But he didn't drive around randomly so he would go face first into my sword, which is usually the case, but only did so with purpose, which made it impossible to punish anything or even get an opening.
Dacidbro Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 She's ridiculous, right now. XDest knows what's up, great player.
BladeOfJustice7 Posted February 9, 2011 Author Posted February 9, 2011 Yo, fuck Tao. And fuck the fact that my city has no Carl or Tao players. Yo, huey, do you even play hakumen? Also it's saddening to see that haku has no broken combo damage in cs2 Why is he so underrated in BB?
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