Silius Posted January 14, 2011 Posted January 14, 2011 wait, really??? I thought tager was supposed to be looking pretty decent now what happened? He's better, but most matchups are generally the same. And he still has problems vs Arakune & Co.
Konner Posted January 14, 2011 Posted January 14, 2011 He's better, but most matchups are generally the same. And he still has problems vs Arakune & Co. Does anyone have a truly good match-up versus Arakune?
smooshman Posted January 14, 2011 Posted January 14, 2011 ^/\ It's not just the instant block changes - they've clearly done some 'under the hood' changes to her normals to remove holes in her blockstrings, and allow some things to combo that never did before. well that is generally something that happens in most FG sequels.
Nini Heart Posted January 14, 2011 Posted January 14, 2011 Does anyone have a truly good match-up versus Arakune? Lambda? Hazama? Superior zoners just walk all over him.
ph00tbag Posted January 14, 2011 Posted January 14, 2011 He does better when he can actually get in close, but that still doesn't solve the fundamental problem that he has major issues getting in close without having to commit to some predictable trajectory.
Airk Posted January 14, 2011 Posted January 14, 2011 ^/\ well that is generally something that happens in most FG sequels. That's not the point. The point is that A) She has more changes than just the IB change and B) we don't really know what they are.
Mumm-Ra Posted January 14, 2011 Posted January 14, 2011 Does anyone have a truly good match-up versus Arakune? Lambda, Mu, Hazama, dare I say Rachel and maybe even Taokaka.
NumeroGaijin Posted January 15, 2011 Posted January 15, 2011 Whoa that Haku combo in the last vid was hot!!! I like seeing how unique Hakumens game has gotten. It will definitely require more skill to play him.
smooshman Posted January 15, 2011 Posted January 15, 2011 (edited) That's not the point. The point is that A) She has more changes than just the IB change and B) we don't really know what they are. I tend to think that the IB nerf was so good for her that it out balance the nerfs she had in the loctests. Sure there are changes we probably don't know about, but the IB change was really what did it. EDIT: if Jin gets 6B ch in the corner just leave, it's going to hurt. and why was the other jin doing 236A? was he trying to combo it? or was he just dropping combos? Edited January 15, 2011 by smooshman
Nini Heart Posted January 15, 2011 Posted January 15, 2011 Wow this Ora guy is pretty awesome. I love watching him play, he does so much creative stuff.
STenSatsu Posted January 15, 2011 Posted January 15, 2011 Those A-cho vids were quite awesome. Pretty much all good matches.
Yuushiro Posted January 16, 2011 Posted January 16, 2011 Yea.., I can't believe that noel beat tsujikawa rofl... also his PSR is 259 wth..., highest I've seen so far
Airk Posted January 16, 2011 Posted January 16, 2011 I tend to think that the IB nerf was so good for her that it out balance the nerfs she had in the loctests. Sure there are changes we probably don't know about, but the IB change was really what did it. I'm sure it helped a little, but it's really NOT what made her viable. In CS1 you can reversal her out of her "blockstrings" WITHOUT IB if you have a frame 1 invincible move - which means that Ragna, Jin, Lambda, Litchi, Makoto, Mu, herself and Noel can stuff her without even needing meter (okay, Lambda needs gravity gauge) and Tager, Arakune, Bang, Tao, Hazama, and probably Valk can all knock her out of a blockstring using a super...without needing to IB. IB is gravy for punishing Tsubaki "blockstrings" (Other than 5AAAAAA and 2AAAAA) in CS1. Is the instant block change relevant for her? Probably, but it sure wasn't the decider.
WolfCrimson Posted January 16, 2011 Posted January 16, 2011 OMG that modded CT Ragna story retelling was aweeeesommme. That Ragna vs. Haku fight was just pure epicness.
GenoWhirl Posted January 16, 2011 Posted January 16, 2011 OMG that modded CT Ragna story retelling was aweeeesommme. That Ragna vs. Haku fight was just pure epicness. I also wtf'd at the end but so awesome
zeth07 Posted January 16, 2011 Posted January 16, 2011 That CT thing was definitely awesome. I actually wanted to do something like that for CS' True End, but now I'm not going to even bother lol.
Jourdal Posted January 16, 2011 Posted January 16, 2011 Lol they used two of jins "unused" moves pretty interesting. The ending of the final fight was good but VS hakumen was the highlight.
smooshman Posted January 17, 2011 Posted January 17, 2011 Lol they used two of jins "unused" moves pretty interesting. The ending of the final fight was good but VS hakumen was the highlight. what was the second? there's the one that looks like his astral, but what was the other?
Jourdal Posted January 17, 2011 Posted January 17, 2011 what was the second? there's the one that looks like his astral, but what was the other? In like....maybe late 80's or 90's he says setsuna,ginro,and shadow strike or something. In the video i heard him use the first and third.
Hecatom Posted January 17, 2011 Posted January 17, 2011 lol, they used the ky vs sol intro and the dragon install sekai
WolfCrimson Posted January 17, 2011 Posted January 17, 2011 They MUST do a Ragna CS story retelling. Just the thought of Ragna vs Hazama... there's too much epic potential there, it's a crime for it NOT to be tapped. @Hecatom: lol that they did. The 'sol vs ky'-style intro was pretty cool.
blzdout Posted January 17, 2011 Posted January 17, 2011 But we need a CS2 for PC though. Arc Sys. Screw 3DS. PC port naow for CS Ragna retelling.
WolfCrimson Posted January 17, 2011 Posted January 17, 2011 Errr... I'm aware that there's an arcade CS1 rip out, couldn't that be used?
JarPL Posted January 17, 2011 Posted January 17, 2011 Well I'm happy I wasn't the only one who liked this modded video-I also had link to other one where guy gave special DD for all characters, I'll share link once I find it.
smooshman Posted January 17, 2011 Posted January 17, 2011 Well I'm happy I wasn't the only one who liked this modded video-I also had link to other one where guy gave special DD for all characters, I'll share link once I find it. http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm12336238 this one?
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