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[Urichinan]

My name got double typo'd for both bracket postings. :/

I can wait on GG too, since I'm not very excited about watching a video of me dashing into j.K > j.S > 2K > 2S > 2D > HCL/TK Note for 2 minutes and then dying a brutal death. :P

Also, why isn't anyone talking about the Nu-13 and Mu-12 reveals? WE IN THERE WITH THE ROBO-CHICKS!

[Jackie Chandler]

My name got double typo'd for both bracket postings. :/

Also, why isn't anyone talking about the Nu-13 and Mu-12 reveals? WE IN THERE WITH THE ROBO-CHICKS!

[Nemesis]

No worries, I fixed it for the uploads. I think. XD

I was talking with the Cookeville Crew yesterday about the new CP trailer and Mu/Nu being confirmed. I'm really excited that they're confirmed to be back, and I'm interested in seeing what this hentai doujin "armorless Nu" stuff is about.

But not more interested than tret, I'm sure. I know you're there, treeeeeeet. You should bring up stuff 'n stuff~.

EDIT: OH MY GOD SD VIDEOS UPLOAD SO MUCH FASTER THAN HD. <3

[Urichinan]

I'm especially excited to see Nu back, since I always loved her more than Lambda. As far as playstyles go, CS1 Lambda was my favorite version of them. But character-wise I liked Nu more. She had more of a personality and more defined character traits. Plus, her palette is nicer and she has an eyepatch.

I never played either of them seriously, but depending on how in-depth her mode changing is I might pick her up as my sub for CP. Relius and Valkenhayn are extremely boring in CP, so I'm not that interested in them as subs anymore. Valkenhayn needed nerfs, but he didn't get anything that made him feel "new". He's exactly like he used to be, just worse. And Relius is suffering the same thing as Valk, he got nerfs (Which were unneeded, since he was arguably the worst character in Extend) and nothing to really change him. Platinum has become stale, but her new present and Air Persia properties are keeping me interested in her. I need to see how her combo paths will play out, and how well she can utilize her items overall now. Since most of them don't seem to be as strong as they used to, and have become a little less unique.

I've been looking to Rachel and Carl as my potential subs for CP, since I used them in CT and CS1, but Nu has definitely got my attention this time. I can't wait to see how it all pans out.

CP is going to be so nice. <3

[Klein]

whats this? someone who doesnt play mu/nu that isnt bitching hardcore about them being in the game still? there is a god....

[LastStarSaviour]

whats this? someone who doesnt play mu/nu that isnt bitching hardcore about them being in the game still? there is a god....

Who could possibly bitch about Lambda? That robot had to work hard (if not, the hardest in-game). Nothing came easy for her, unless you were the blob. This is coming from a person who doesn't even like fighting her and I understand that much. Mu-12 was on the derpy side but she honestly wasn't that hard of a match-up to deal with. If Mu's that difficult for people to deal with then i'm defnitely missing something.

@Woz- Relius, worst in-game? HELL NO! That retarded pedo bastard and his giant robotic sex doll were TOO godlike. 5K off of regular grabs, 4K off everything else....Shit. Also, praise be to the Valk nerfs!!

If Nu's mix-up game still plays anything like Lambda's then i'll probably sub her as well. I've been scurrying around the CP roster looking for a new main anyways. The game does look sexy as of the last few vids I saw of it.

Edit: Forgot to ask, what are they doing to Rachel, Woz? All I know of is that they gave her a shitty overdrive. Hopefully wind movement nerfs?

Edited October 19, 2012 by LastStarSaviour

[Kyle]

If BB:CP has serious system changes like SPEED and SPEED. I will play it.

[tret_tree]

Looking waaaaay forward to Nu toys on the murakumo units.

Arksys, may we have the gravity seed dp back? Pretty please?

[Milln]

My name got double typo'd for both bracket postings. :/

I fixed you and Jackie's on the standings list. I'll change and repost the GG one when I get home.

[LastStarSaviour]

Arksys, may we have the gravity seed dp back? Pretty please?

If this happens i'm instant-maining her. Dp + mix-up!!! LET'S GOOO!!!

[Astaroth136]

If BB:CP has serious system changes like SPEED and SPEED. I will play it.

Marvel is my SPEED game, and I tolerate enough unreactable mixups there. If I have two games with that crap, my head might explode.

[Mr.Minionman]

I've been looking at Tsubaki, Bang (old main), or I'm seriously considering working on Carl for CP. Carl got some nifty perks that I'm interested in, and my puppet character interest has not been fully satiated yet with Shadow Labrys. Unblockables are addicting.

[Jackie Chandler]

If BB:CP has serious system changes like SPEED and SPEED. I will play it.

It's been said that hitstop on pretty much all moves has been decreased, so that should make the game much faster in itself. Just note that this is hitstop we're talking about- NOT histun. They're different.

Looking waaaaay forward to Nu toys on the murakumo units.

Arksys, may we have the gravity seed dp back? Pretty please?

Meterless tools to deal with close range + full-screen mix-ups = S tier waiting to happen (again). I can't see them bringing it back, and if they do, I'd wager the invincible frames will probably be balls. But I guess we'll see. :P

Marvel is my SPEED game, and I tolerate enough unreactable mixups there. If I have two games with that crap, my head might explode.

The difference is, Blazblue has reactable mixups. And no bullshit assist bullshit. And soon, air 360's/anti-air Spark Bolt/Overdrive -> Genesic to punish ANYTHING.

I've been looking at Tsubaki, Bang (old main), or I'm seriously considering working on Carl for CP. Carl got some nifty perks that I'm interested in, and my puppet character interest has not been fully satiated yet with Shadow Labrys. Unblockables are addicting.

Tsubaki? You poor, misguided soul. XD Maybe she'll be more legit/easier/have some sort of unique redeeming factor in CP. But yeah, Carl is always a legit (albeit difficult character to use) in every game, and Bang has a new super in CP where he PUNCHES HIS NAIL INTO HIS OPPONENT. I'd say they're both main-worthy. :3

[Jackie Chandler]

Oh, and Guilty Gear is uploaded in its entirety. For those of you interested:

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_wkJgyNv5Ad3aSoccHqu5n9in0PsZlvk

[Bane]

It's been said that hitstop on pretty much all moves has been decreased

Thank goodness. That's the only thing that really annoyed me about the combos in that game. Maybe they will be quicker and less based on awkward timing, now.

[tret_tree]

Meterless tools to deal with close range + full-screen mix-ups = S tier waiting to happen (again). I can't see them bringing it back, and if they do, I'd wager the invincible frames will probably be balls. But I guess we'll see. :P

CS1 Lambda had invincibility frames on her gravity seed... and it was a pretty crappy DP what with its short range and only being available once every thirteen seconds. They replaced it with throw invuln which is useful against... Tager maybe? Bang if she's not too busy dying to half-assed overheads/lows? :< Obviously gravity seed is used for other things, but I like not dying. :P

I dunno how BS that was in conjunction with everything else since I didn't play CS1, but I don't remember seeing her in S tier. S tier in CS1 was Bang and Litchi, yeah?

[AlexSanteria]

So after watching, I'm definitely thinking about the new guilty gear and was just curious when it was coming out and just wanting a bit more info on it.

[Urichinan]

@Woz- Relius, worst in-game? HELL NO! That retarded pedo bastard and his giant robotic sex doll were TOO godlike. 5K off of regular grabs, 4K off everything else....Shit. Also, praise be to the Valk nerfs!! Forgot to ask, what are they doing to Rachel, Woz? All I know of is that they gave her a shitty overdrive. Hopefully wind movement nerfs?

I really hope you're being sarcastic. His normals are awful, his mixup is bad, he has no mid-screen potential, his overhead is one of the slowest in the game, his unblockables can be jumped, and Ignis dies very quickly. I can give you a huge list of things that make Relius bad. And just as an example, if you tech Relius's throw or if Relius techs YOUR throw, then he loses Ignis. Which means he gets punished for playing correctly.

Damage output doesn't make a character good, otherwise Tager, Arakune and Noel would be top-tier. There's a WHOLE LOT MORE to it.

I'm also very glad Valkenhayn got nerfs, but his went too far. He has to spend wolf meter to get a launcher in wolf form, he can no longer do wolf dash > j.B > j.B, he can't combo after Nacht Jager on air hit, Nacht Rozen doesn't launch them as high, so he can't do 7D > w.j.B > j.A > 5D > Stuff, he can no longer do 2C > 6B on a grounded opponent, he can no longer do 2C > 6C on an arial opponent (His main combo path) and w.5A is no longer a low. He got no buffs to give him back a few options. And after taking away his mixup and frame advantage, now he can't even be affective after landing a hit. Which I think is a bit too much. They could have nerfed him without making him so weak.

Rachel got mixup buffs. (j.2C is said to be an overhead once again) She got a new move that turns all her rods into giant bats that home in on the opponent, and then explode when they get to them. She can have three out at once, and they are said to be a major pain to get around. With these, rods, George and the pumpkin, she can zone really well now. Some other buffs she got were the ability to jump cancel 6B, and her rods now bounce off the wall in the corner if they miss the opponent. She got some other considerable nerfs though, like 3C having SMP, 4B only being special cancelable and 6A no longer launching the opponent on ground hit.

And while her OD may sound weak, it could potentially be very strong. She constantly gains wind meter, supposedly even while jumping. Since combos are un-burstable in OD, landing hits with Rachel could be very strong. If her wind gain is high enough, you could be looking at 7-8 wind combos and pressure strings, which is crazy good.

Also no, wind movement is the same.

Edited October 19, 2012 by Urichinan

[LastStarSaviour]

@Astaroth - I'm more or less interested in the games overall speed since I thought Extend had a reasonable amount of speed. Not as fast as Gear but not really slow either, idk, it felt right to me. I'd like some harder to react mix-up if possible.

@Tret - As Jackie says, they probably won't be bringing it back. You don't reward a zoning character with defensive options because the fact of the matter is, if you get caught, you're playing the zoning character wrong. It's hard for people to catch a good Lambda blocking as is, then you have to worry about baiting a DP that's going to put you in a state where they can get mix-up. Like Jackie said again, that's begging for an S-tier character.

@Woz - Relius' normals are by no means bad. They have pretty decent frame data and the hitboxes on alot of his moves are really good. Maybe they aren't the best alone but mix them in together with Ignis and he gets pretty hard to deal with. As for mix-up, I can't remember everything he could do for mix-up but I remember safe overhead mix-ups with Ignis as well as Ignis being the main tool to get in on his opponent mid-screen, I don't see where you're saying he doesn't have mid-screen potential. Yeah Ignis dies fast, but that's just to keep him balanced. Can anyone honestly say Relius would be balanced if he had say Nervana's meter? He'd be stupid good. What do you mean he loses Ignis after teching a throw? Also, if he does lose ignis, that's just a well-balanced risk-reward for attempting a throw, I don't see this making him the worst character in-game, the other characters who are projected low-tier would cry to hear someone say Relius deserves that spot.

Also, i'm aware that damage output is not the key to a good character, but it does at least qualify him to be higher than those who initial damage output is relatively low and their ability to safely open people up is not as sound as Relius combined with Ignis.

Edited October 19, 2012 by LastStarSaviour

[Milln]

2chars

Relius is bad.

No he isn't.

Relius is bad: here's why I think so.

Relius is good: here's why I think so

[Volpe-de-Glacio]

I don't know about CP. Not really hyped for it but I know I'll end up playing it. Might walk the walk and actually play Tao this time. Her, Bullet, or Jin. Maybe even the trap.

Also not sure how I feel about GG. Ky is fun. Testament is fun. Venom is cool. Justice looks amazing.

Persona completely destroyed my execution, though. No idea how I'm supposed to go from timing simple inputs with 1 frame links (probably wrong on this, they're just really tight) for Liz into complex motions and shit for Tao.

I have like zero enthusiasm as it stands. Even for UNI. The game seems like it'll be fun but nobody seems to want to give it a shot. Hopefully that'll be a good thing. I can go into my games with a clear head and zero expectations.

@Woz - Makoto desperately struggling to open you up in the corner only to barely scrape 4k would like a word with you.

I'm getting Shadow of the Colossus for my birthday tomorrow. What other classics might I have missed for gamecube and ps2?

@Kaos Theory - Was there any sort of scene already gathering there that we could merge with? Hopefully we can get some fresh mentalities in the mix.

Don't really see a point in getting around to shout-outs. Y'all know how I am by now. I would like to thank Ohio for coming out and playing some games. I regret that my proverbial fangs weren't as sharp as they used to be, but I'm starting to realize that it's okay. There's always next time, and the time after that. It's not like I'll get any worse. Good shit to Kyle. Normally I would've played more tactically against your Naoto, but I completely disrespected it because I was baked and out of practice, so I didn't see a point in pussyfooting around, lol. Good shit to all of you who came down. Hopefully we can find our way up to your venue someday.

Edited October 19, 2012 by Volpe-de-Glacio

[Milln]

I'm getting Shadow of the Colossus for my birthday tomorrow. What other classics might I have missed for gamecube and ps2?

I'll take a photo of my ps2 and GameCube collection and pm it to you for ideas, but off the top of my head; Killer7(ps2), any Katamari game, Baten Kaitos(Cube), Skies of Arcadia(Cube)... Any Nippon Ichi game for ps2...

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO THIS MAN HERE.

[Mr.Minionman]

^Most of the Nintendo releases for the Gamecube were pretty hot. And talking PS2 Games, I'd shoe in Dark Cloud 2 as a closet classic. Mercenaries and Star Wars Battlefront II are both great 3rd Person shooters, Psychonauts definitely, and the KH series and Jak&Daxter series will always be fun

[Top_Cat]

I'm go giddy for gg and bb. I feel like a schoolgirl

[Tophatmoffet]

I'm actually relatively excited for CP. I have no idea who I'm going to play, which means for a while, I'm going to main the random button.

But until we hit a release date of some kind, it has like none of my attention. Especially with GG coming out.