Moy_X7 Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 Didn't see much Sekka altogether, maybe they still need to get used to the new input for Sekka. Could be that they didn't come up with a decent combo with the side swap? Hahah, that's the most likely reason for the lack of Sekkajin footage. They're so used to mashing C that they completely forgot that the input changed to 22C. If I remember correctly, doesn't the combo end the moment Jin sheathes his sword after the mini-Yukikaze? It could be that there's no way to follow it up unless you RC or something.
Jourdal Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 That's probably going to be the weirdest thing ever....at least our pads/sticks will be happy? He used sekkajin once as an ender but no follow up. D mussou (1) looks cool, i wonder how much damage a combo does and if its worth it do 5D>D mussou now
Moy_X7 Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 Yeah, it's probably going to take some getting used to. My pad wished that the C mash command had been 22C all along, my circle button sticks and sometimes it doesn't register the input now lol. I don't think that 5D > 214D(1) will lead to too much damage mid-screen, probably the standard 5B > 5C > 3C > 214B. Then again, some small combo is better than no combo like in the past iterations.
MashThat5A Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 5D is a pretty good fatal due to the good horizontal range. Better than EX 2C imo
Moy_X7 Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 2C is better as a fatal (IMO) for 3 reasons: 1) Even though it's a situational anti-air, the chances of tagging someone with 2C as a FC are relatively high. 2) Frame traps, a lot of people like to mash out of Jin pressure, that's where a 2C FC shines. 3) Your combo options after a 2C FC are quite good and you still have your freeze. 5D in the other hand is bad as a FC for a few reasons. 1) If you tag someone with it at max range, you'll most likely only be able to confirm into 214D. That's assuming that you have the meter for it. 2) It uses up your freeze, weakening your combo by a bit. 3) It can't be used as a frame trap as well as 2C. Assuming that 5D is still as negative on block as it is in CSE (which is very likely), it's a very dangerous thing to try and frame trap someone with it as dash canceling leaves you at frame disadvantage and the move can only be canceled into the EX specials.
cadacus_ater Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 2C is better as a fatal (IMO) for 3 reasons: 1) Even though it's a situational anti-air, the chances of tagging someone with 2C as a FC are relatively high. 2) Frame traps, a lot of people like to mash out of Jin pressure, that's where a 2C FC shines. 3) Your combo options after a 2C FC are quite good and you still have your freeze. 5D in the other hand is bad as a FC for a few reasons. 1) If you tag someone with it at max range, you'll most likely only be able to confirm into 214D. That's assuming that you have the meter for it. 2) It uses up your freeze, weakening your combo by a bit. 3) It can't be used as a frame trap as well as 2C. Assuming that 5D is still as negative on block as it is in CSE (which is very likely), it's a very dangerous thing to try and frame trap someone with it as dash canceling leaves you at frame disadvantage and the move can only be canceled into the EX specials. I see what you mean, but I don't think the reasons that 2C FC is good are really that strong. Playing against people that know what they are doing it is almost useless except as a slightly risky anti-air, requiring exceptional timing and position or major telegraphing on the opponent's side imo. I do agree that throwing out 5D is probably gonna be more of a risk vs reward call...unless they change it's properties to make it safer (which I really hope they do). I think that it is easier to make 5D unpredictable compared to 2C though, which is a plus. As for the freeze consumption, it might not be so bad with Jin's other changes, assuming they all stick...we'll just have to wait and see.
shtkn Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 now that i think about it, 5D fatal > 214D (1), (run up 5C > j.2C > j.C)x2 might work with this fatal. still not that much damage, but it's cool looking haha.
Moy_X7 Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 I see what you mean, but I don't think the reasons that 2C FC is good are really that strong. Playing against people that know what they are doing it is almost useless except as a slightly risky anti-air, requiring exceptional timing and position or major telegraphing on the opponent's side imo. I do agree that throwing out 5D is probably gonna be more of a risk vs reward call...unless they change it's properties to make it safer (which I really hope they do). I think that it is easier to make 5D unpredictable compared to 2C though, which is a plus. As for the freeze consumption, it might not be so bad with Jin's other changes, assuming they all stick...we'll just have to wait and see. Even people who know what they are doing will try to mash out of pressure. No one wants to sit there and eat 5B x N and 2A x N. You're right about the anti-air part though, 2C has never been known for it anti-air qualities. Unless you're playing against someone like Tager or someone who tries to bait anti-airs with double jumps. Yup, we'll just have to wait and see. @shtkn - It was confirmed that 5C > j.2C no longer works. Hopefully it does work on FC and it would be awesome to do the 5C > j.2C > j.C loops lol.
ShelledMenace Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 now that i think about it, 5D fatal > 214D (1), (run up 5C > j.2C > j.C)x2 might work with this fatal. still not that much damage, but it's cool looking haha. >not that much damage >cool looking . . . >cool looking That's all I care about lol.
Jyosua Posted November 14, 2012 Posted November 14, 2012 Every time I watch a Jin Loketest video, it brightens my day.
ShelledMenace Posted November 14, 2012 Posted November 14, 2012 BTW did anyone notice in one of Isuna's vids from this most recent loketest that a CH 5B allowed Jin to combo 5B 5C 6C? Thought that was kind of interesting. Unless it's already been talked about lol.
Moy_X7 Posted November 14, 2012 Posted November 14, 2012 5B > 5C > 6C? Da fuq? Don't tell me that 5B is a FC move or something lol.
Jyosua Posted November 14, 2012 Posted November 14, 2012 No, but I did notice that ambiguous crossovers with J.236D do still work, though I'd imagine not as well.
shtkn Posted November 14, 2012 Posted November 14, 2012 you're not very observant: she's crouching http://youtu.be/NDgostdQbrM?t=9s
Moy_X7 Posted November 14, 2012 Posted November 14, 2012 Yeah, she was crouching. It's kinda hard to tell with her because of her low fighting stance.
Jyosua Posted November 14, 2012 Posted November 14, 2012 I'm not sure that's crouching, considering she's bent backwards... she may just have a strange hit animation.
ShelledMenace Posted November 14, 2012 Posted November 14, 2012 I'm sorry I don't know what the crouching animation looks like for a new character that's already slouching lol. It still looks kind of vague but I guess it is crouching, sorry.
eQualz Posted November 16, 2012 Posted November 16, 2012 Off topic: Hey lookie, I found out what Jin's been doing when he's not freezing people. He's starring in an anime http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcqqKNDbPOo#t=5m12s
Nemesis Posted November 16, 2012 Posted November 16, 2012 rofl... literally same hair style... and that kick .... ~_~;; oh sigh
Jourdal Posted November 17, 2012 Posted November 17, 2012 Jins stage is a snow village. I'm pretty sure it was a warm sunny village and he wasn't having that shit. Just a few more days ;-;
Moy_X7 Posted November 17, 2012 Posted November 17, 2012 I'm probably going to give Azrael a chance, that dash is too tempting lol.
xlolxlolx Posted November 17, 2012 Posted November 17, 2012 3 more days huh.....hope hes a completely diff char than he was in the joke tests
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