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i wish 5b>5c>hiyoku>air combo still did like 4k D:

oh and some guy said p2 calculated separately on 1st and 2nd hit of 5b now

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Hahah, here's to hoping that 5B(1) P2 is higher than 5B(2) P2 so that we can immediately cancel 5B in order to avoid the 5B(2) proration penalty.

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Can someone explain a bit on the P1 and P2 business? It would help me understand more.

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P1 is the proration given by only the first hit in a combo. P2 is the proration given by every hit, including the first, in the combo. Every attack has its own values for P1 and P2.

Proration, typically expressed as a percentage (100 to 0), is what reduces the base damage of attacks that are used in a combo. The higher the number for proration, the lower the reduction in damage of the next attack and the lower the proration number, the higher the damage reduction of the next attack.

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Good stuff, Shirushi staying true to Jin, I like. I don't like the absence of air dash combos, makes me wonder if they're harder to do or even possible at all. No one seems to do them, not even Shirushi. Let's hope for the good.

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P1 is the proration given by only the first hit in a combo. P2 is the proration given by every hit, including the first, in the combo. Every attack has its own values for P1 and P2.

Proration, typically expressed as a percentage (100 to 0), is what reduces the base damage of attacks that are used in a combo. The higher the number for proration, the lower the reduction in damage of the next attack and the lower the proration number, the higher the damage reduction of the next attack.

Ah. Makes sense now. So based on that, i can see why we want 5B (1) to have the higher proration :eng101:

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Good stuff, Shirushi staying true to Jin, I like. I don't like the absence of air dash combos, makes me wonder if they're harder to do or even possible at all. No one seems to do them, not even Shirushi. Let's hope for the good.

I wouldn't mind if they're hard to do but I sure as hell don't want them gone. Those combos have been around since CT and are some of the prettiest combos Jin has lol.

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Good stuff, Shirushi staying true to Jin, I like. I don't like the absence of air dash combos, makes me wonder if they're harder to do or even possible at all. No one seems to do them, not even Shirushi. Let's hope for the good.

They're still there. Pretty sure I've seen them.

iono, tbh he looks like hes back to cs1 status or maybe a little better than that

The consensus i keep getting is that he's pretty good lol. Even this morning Dora said Jin is very strong

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Phew, well I'm glad then. They're the whole reason why I started to main Jin in the first place, it'd be a shame if they were goner.

There's a Jin showing up here http://de.twitch.tv/central804/b/342583745 at 01:40:10 / 02:11:10 / 03:16:40. Still watching, 4 hours worth of Quality BB lol.

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Knew he'd be good as soon as I saw the second joketest.

I'm really, really looking forward to this game. When do we get the PS3 release date? D: I wanna import.

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Tasty. Who said this was OD Yukikaze?

214D is definitely better this time around. 5C > 214D(2) > 5B > 5C > 6C > 623C > 5B(1) > 5C > 2C > j.C > dj.2C > Hizansen does 3.8k.

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Tasty. Who said this was OD Yukikaze?

Definitely not me :kitty:

Ok, so wtf is that move then? OD Ice Wave? OD Ice Wave follow-up? Completely new OD move?

214D is definitely better this time around. 5C > 214D(2) > 5B > 5C > 6C > 623C > 5B(1) > 5C > 2C > j.C > dj.2C > Hizansen does 3.8k.

I didn't name the new combo thread 214D for nothing lol.

Edit: OD Ice Wave follow-up, huh?

I love the OD system so much. Reversals, Burst baits, deadly combos... ah, the universal install system.

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Yeah....most likely an automatic followup since there's nothing in the movelist after Touga. Throw freeze got a buff to i guess since we can follow up throw>ice car whiff with 6C. It's not ragna damage but near 3.5 off a throw in the corner is nice.

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Speaking of that movelist, does anybody have a link to it or the official CP website? I'd like to have one of the translators work on it to figure out how the Ice Cars work.

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Yeah, I'm just gonna go ahead and assume that it means "push C for follow-ups". I wanted to know so that I can write the proper combo notations.

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so what's the move to do the CT and that new overdrive super???

I have yet to see anyone using the sniping hiyoku getsumei from the air.

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Now that you mention it, I have no idea how CT works outside of the obvious (Guard Crush, combos) lol.

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