Chaoschao222 Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 You sir, Have no dignity. Yeah, EU so good
YukiBlue Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 (edited) >EU >Blazblue :8/: Edited January 3, 2012 by YukiBlue
kotokot Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 Ever since the EU became competitive.... oh wait. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYCupEPhdlA since us became free?8) joking, but eu have really good players
HexaNoid Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 eu have really good players Listen to this man, Chao. :3
Aginor Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 So I just got word the extend wiki is up. I hope to start filling it out soon. Just FYI. ;o
bakahyl Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 I have been wondering for some time, but was there any point that Mu's dp also has a guard point besides it's invincibility? Other dp's don't have it and origins seems to clash more often with random moves than other dp's.
Lord Pwnge18 Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 I really like how Origins clashes with Dead Spike, and then you can't do anything afterwards
Chaoschao222 Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 joking, but eu have really good players Both niggas.
Nemesis Posted January 4, 2012 Posted January 4, 2012 I really like how Origins clashes with Dead Spike, and then you can't do anything afterwards Rushing origins fixes that
Lord Pwnge18 Posted January 4, 2012 Posted January 4, 2012 Deadspike 14 frames of recovery GO. I dunno whether that's fast or not, but I always get countah'd when they clash. Rushing origins fixes that Hush, you ;-;
LuminAbyss Posted January 4, 2012 Posted January 4, 2012 (edited) I dunno whether that's fast or not, but I always get countah'd when they clash. Let me put it this way. Origins and Deadspike clash. Since only the projectile was in range, Ragna did not get hit. Both characters enter recovery. Mu has 37 frames of recovery, while Ragna has 14 frames of recovery. Ragna now has 23 frames to punish you. Mu is in counter hit state until the last five frames of her recovery, meaning Ragna has 18 frames for a counter hit punish. His 2C has 12 frames of start-up and can fatal counter. Hello 6-8k. Edited January 4, 2012 by LuminAbyss
Aginor Posted January 4, 2012 Posted January 4, 2012 "Occasionally when 2 physical attacks touch, they clash. When a clash occurs purple lightning will appear on screen and a clapping sound can be heard. During a clash, both you and your opponent's attacks are negated, and you each can CANCEL your attack into another attack at no cost (but not a jump, dash, block, etc.). If the clashed move has mulitiple hits and you do not cancel your attack, the latter attacks will come out."
Nemesis Posted January 4, 2012 Posted January 4, 2012 (edited) Wait do you mean clash or guard pointing cause if you mean the latter then what lumin say = true the former then aginor For example I often clad with hakumens 3C using origins, I've become so accustomed to it that I usually cancel into 2b Guardpointing the origins I often rc to gain the upper hand Edited January 4, 2012 by Nemesis
Aginor Posted January 4, 2012 Posted January 4, 2012 If people mean guard point then say guard point. Aside from bakahyl's I don't see the 2 words guard point except in yours. They're talking about clashing dead spike with origins. And if you clash I don't know why you would ever discuss about recovery unless you don't cancel the move that clashed into anything.
LuminAbyss Posted January 4, 2012 Posted January 4, 2012 I don't play Mu, so I dont' know how Origins works, but Pwnge said he found himself not being able to do anything after clashing it, so I assumed he was just kinda stuck in recovery. Have you tried inputting any other move after the clash, Pwnge?
Lord Pwnge18 Posted January 4, 2012 Posted January 4, 2012 Hush, Agi, I know what clashing is. It's probably just a guard point, I guess I just made a mistake Quick, someone, bite my head off. Hello 6-8k. Well shit, I could have told you that part. You memorize all this frame data? And yeah I have, just nothing happens. Again, I was just WRONG, and that it's actually just a guard point with longer recovery than I want it to have.
HexaNoid Posted January 4, 2012 Posted January 4, 2012 Either that or he clicks the big "Frame Data" button at the top of the page before he decides to drop bombs.
Nemesis Posted January 4, 2012 Posted January 4, 2012 Don't worry lord i knew what you meant and corrected you with a soft touch... Not the brutish tactics of the overlord-ginor Do you wana do some games btw? Lord/lumin?
Fluck Posted January 4, 2012 Posted January 4, 2012 Origins is a super guardpoint which is unthrowable. If you time Dead Spike such that it nails the guy during the start up of Origins, it won't clash and Mu loses. If the active frames of Origins and DS coincide, there will be a clash.
Lord Pwnge18 Posted January 4, 2012 Posted January 4, 2012 Either that or he clicks the big "Frame Data" button at the top of the page before he decides to drop bombs. If that's the case, then I'll let him answer the question like I intended. It was an honest question. Don't worry lord i knew what you meant and corrected you with a soft touch... Not the brutish tactics of the overlord-ginor Do you wana do some games btw? Lord/lumin? <3 Sure, I'm down for some games, just give me a moment.
LuminAbyss Posted January 4, 2012 Posted January 4, 2012 (edited) Either that or he clicks the big "Frame Data" button at the top of the page before he decides to drop bombs. I've actually memorized a good 85% to 90% of Ragna's frame data PFFFFT I know bits and pieces of everyone else's, such as overhead start-up frames (yes, I know how fast everyone's normal overheads are) as well as start-up and active frames of moves that are used as meaties and poking tools. Other than that, I look up everything else as I need to, knowing this shit really does help. Edited January 4, 2012 by LuminAbyss
C0R Posted January 4, 2012 Author Posted January 4, 2012 Mu's uppercut is not a projectile. Dead spike is a projectile. Only moves with projectile properties can clash with moves that have projectile properties. Mu's uppercut will only autoguard Dead Spike, but never clash.
Nemesis Posted January 4, 2012 Posted January 4, 2012 Cor comes and ruins the speculation party with his irrefutable knowledge
Lord Pwnge18 Posted January 4, 2012 Posted January 4, 2012 Mu's uppercut will only autoguard Dead Spike, but never clash. And this has now become the reasoning for why I shall not DP on wakeup vs Ragna any more. You know, with certain conditions and stuff. Whatever. Ugh, I need to get better at this game. Maybe I'll get a stick when CSX rolls around...
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