Heidern98 Posted April 19, 2007 Posted April 19, 2007 im like... so confused at da moment Pozer do me a favor and stop beign a jerk to people.... I swear shit like this makes me not want to post here. Im sick of you talking like you know so much and completly scrubbing out. Seriously I don't want any beef but you are trying to say things like JC the 2D is bad? Dude there are a ton of reasons to cancel 2D.... You talk in terms as if things are black and white.... "This is a bad idea because people will always do this to counter." Dude you really are making it obvious that you have no idea what you are talking about. I come on this board with my suggestions but I dont shove my style and opinions down peoples throats. I cancel 2D into ACSE all day and that shit kills people. Also 2D into constellation or at times ya normal dust and no people do not always react to it. Sometimes vs say baiken, order sol and lots of other characters, 2D jump away is an awsome strat... or 2D jump ASE frc fun times!!! Its called mixup buddy and it causes people to react in a turtle like fasion at times .... Stop giving people bad advice please... Now Sytha.... 2D SVT is in all honesty unpractical. First off you gotta be deep for that shit to work. 2S 2D will prolly push them to far.... Your idea is good and sure I would love to be proven wrong but most of the time teh hit confirm and the focus of trying to get taht combo will mess teh player up. If anything, orb after 2D is the new focus and like i said with time is pretty easy... Even if you miss you OTG them far away. As for KMC, me and vet were talking and imma try to see if i cant get it off in AC... Ill mess with 2D SE frc combos too... but alll in all these things are much less practical then 2D ORB. 2D SE is prolly the best damage you can get for combos but im still having trouble nailing the FRC down... Im thinking of more combos tho... Stuff for when you cant loop and you have tension to blow.... For example 6P anti air, S, 2H, jS, jH, VT, LJ, FRC, airdash, S, HS, VT, LJ... Or if you have 50% and feel like looking cool: random combo with two jumps into VT, LJ, FRC , air SE, FRC air dash, jS VT LJ.... Slightly unpractical but im sure it looks cool ^^ I might try to get some alone time on the game if MikeZ permits me again. Im still wondering about some good setups usign ACSE frc stuff... If i could get that going id be happy. Ok guys ill try out some stuff and let you know. Be good to each other eh?
Sytha Posted April 19, 2007 Posted April 19, 2007 Thanks Heidern for clearing that up... I was just hoping that it would have some validity. Since that would be a Tensionless set up to loop. The bad reach on 623S Kinda ruins it.
Shinobi! Posted April 19, 2007 Author Posted April 19, 2007 That FRC Airdash combo after Javelin...Jeff. Can you see if that combo has enough height for a recombo or something like that? Also if there is a chance, I see people doing throw FRC in the corner and 6hs-5hs-GS-5s-2hs-VT-Javelin-Recombo. Could you try that out for me? Im thinking of using that combo when AC comes out.
PozerWolf Posted April 19, 2007 Posted April 19, 2007 I cancel 2D into ACSE all day and that shit kills people. Also 2D into constellation or at times ya normal dust and no people do not always react to it. Sometimes vs say baiken, order sol and lots of other characters, 2D jump away is an awsome strat... or 2D jump ASE frc fun times!!! Its called mixup buddy and it causes people to react in a turtle like fasion at times .... Stop giving people bad advice please... 2D and cancelling into ACSE will only work for so long. Sure its faster than before, but you can't be doing forever and except for the best. Also, it really seems like you didn't fully understand the post. What if you try to hit confirm 2D into the SVT combo he posted? Ok, what if you hit the opponent and all of a sudden just jumped in the air and did ASE. Great, you landed the 2D, but you jumped and missed out what could've been a good VT loop combo. I never said it wasen't a good strat, but to run up and start your pressure as just 2D into ASE FRC... well you could've done a little more before the 2D. It really is that simple of an argument. Pozer do me a favor and stop beign a jerk to people.... I swear shit like this makes me not want to post here. Im sick of you talking like you know so much and completly scrubbing out. Seriously I don't want any beef but you are trying to say things like JC the 2D is bad? Dude there are a ton of reasons to cancel 2D.... You talk in terms as if things are black and white.... "This is a bad idea because people will always do this to counter." Stop being so sensitive on the boards and just post up a decent argument rather than attempted to flame someone just because you think you know what your talking about, or going off because you have some kind of personal issue again the user. Don't come in here acting like some kind of hero. If anything, its possible that Sytha just didn't know how to explain his post a little more, or maybe we just mis-understood each other. In no way did I insult Sytha or anyone else in this thread, so just chill out.
Heidern98 Posted April 19, 2007 Posted April 19, 2007 2D and cancelling into ACSE will only work for so long. Sure its faster than before, but you can't be doing forever and except for the best. Also, it really seems like you didn't fully understand the post. What if you try to hit confirm 2D into the SVT combo he posted? Ok, what if you hit the opponent and all of a sudden just jumped in the air and did ASE. Great, you landed the 2D, but you jumped and missed out what could've been a good VT loop combo. I never said it wasen't a good strat, but to run up and start your pressure as just 2D into ASE FRC... well you could've done a little more before the 2D. It really is that simple of an argument. Stop being so sensitive on the boards and just post up a decent argument rather than attempted to flame someone just because you think you know what your talking about, or going off because you have some kind of personal issue again the user. Don't come in here acting like some kind of hero. If anything, its possible that Sytha just didn't know how to explain his post a little more, or maybe we just mis-understood each other. In no way did I insult Sytha or anyone else in this thread, so just chill out. Lol dude you dont know me... nice try but your weak words have no bearing on me... Im done with you... Ya Ill try out that other stuff you guys mentioned.... It will take some work but Ill do it ^^
低姿勢 Posted April 19, 2007 Posted April 19, 2007 Yawn... if something works for you it works. And if your having fun thats fine enough. Lets not take the advice of people that arent/were never winning tournies in the first place and be done with it. Oh wait....
purify Posted April 19, 2007 Posted April 19, 2007 That means we can't take anybody's advice here, since KY PLAYERS DON'T WIN TOURNEYS EVEN THOUGH HE'S TOP TIER. Sigh shrug awful right.
PozerWolf Posted April 19, 2007 Posted April 19, 2007 Lol dude you dont know me... nice try but your weak words have no bearing on me... Im done with you... Whats with this "lol dude you dont know me line" after what you just posted about me? The irony is to heavy on your post there. And nice try at what? I'm not trying to insult you in anyway. But then again, for words that are so weak, they seem strong enough for you to go off and try to take my post to a different level. And whats with this "I'm done with you" line? How can you be done with something you can't even start. Now who's the jerk here? If you can't really take it at a mature level, then please don't bother trying to argue at all. Otherwise, try to keep it at a friendly debate.
Shinobi! Posted April 19, 2007 Author Posted April 19, 2007 That means we can't take anybody's advice here, since KY PLAYERS DON'T WIN TOURNEYS EVEN THOUGH HE'S TOP TIER. Sigh shrug awful right. Do you know how much that post saddened me?? Goddammit...
Heidern98 Posted April 19, 2007 Posted April 19, 2007 Whats with this "lol dude you dont know me line" after what you just posted about me? The irony is to heavy on your post there. And nice try at what? I'm not trying to insult you in anyway. But then again, for words that are so weak, they seem strong enough for you to go off and try to take my post to a different level. And whats with this "I'm done with you" line? How can you be done with something you can't even start. Now who's the jerk here? If you can't really take it at a mature level, then please don't bother trying to argue at all. Otherwise, try to keep it at a friendly debate. K imma just drop it right now. I am certainly not taking any holier then thou approach. I just feel you got a negative attitude at times... But ya I shouldn't take part in that either way so ya lets drop it.... I have never been about flames and I certainly don't want to turn people in the community against each other. Thats not me. I aint trying to hate on ya pozer. Perhaps there was a lack of communication eh? As for Kys not winning tournaments.... well even in Japan thats true for the most part. As far as advice.... well you dont need to be a tourney winner or even that great of a player to state your mind. Its just imposing ones viewpoint over others is kinda lame.... But it seems that isnt going on now so ^^
低姿勢 Posted April 19, 2007 Posted April 19, 2007 That means we can't take anybody's advice here, since KY PLAYERS DON'T WIN TOURNEYS EVEN THOUGH HE'S TOP TIER. Sigh shrug awful right. Ah... ive won tournies in slash before, just beacues I dont play doenst mean im still not winning. I see this was useless.
purify Posted April 19, 2007 Posted April 19, 2007 New Ky player drama is all we need. Start that shit up.
PozerWolf Posted April 20, 2007 Posted April 20, 2007 I have never been about flames and I certainly don't want to turn people in the community against each other. Thats not me. I aint trying to hate on ya pozer. Perhaps there was a lack of communication eh? Perhaps. If anything, I don't know if you have anything against me or not but I don't want this to turn into some kind of personal issue. Bottom line: try not to take anything I say too seriously
PozerWolf Posted April 20, 2007 Posted April 20, 2007 Heidern vs. Pozer at EVO!! lol Your like, the most random person on this board >_>
Shinobi! Posted April 20, 2007 Author Posted April 20, 2007 Your like, the most random person on this board >_> Thank God his Jam isnt like that
Mr. Mamation Posted April 20, 2007 Posted April 20, 2007 moar random than ME!?? Ky boards haveing drama? whats with that?
PozerWolf Posted April 20, 2007 Posted April 20, 2007 Thank God his Jam isnt like that Ummmmm... what...? Oh and, Mr. Mamation...
hukebine Posted April 25, 2007 Posted April 25, 2007 how many frames advantage did 6hs from give you? and how many frames in accent?
hukebine Posted April 25, 2007 Posted April 25, 2007 in block i meant, also sorry to ask another right away but, whats the startup diff?
Darkhonor90 Posted April 25, 2007 Posted April 25, 2007 how many frames advantage did 6hs from give you? and how many frames in accent? IN AC
Most Unknown Posted April 25, 2007 Posted April 25, 2007 Besides from the information I got from the previous pages and the fact that Darkhonor juss posted somethin useful...most of that shit wasn't even worth readin...besides Pozer bein himself cuz he cracks me up... Besides, hasn't already been established that the Japanese are not playin Ky to his fullest potential, (from what I've seen) he's more of a Gimick character now, then solid stat, and his has a potential rise in lockdown game, GS an instant overhead(what fun) which is a follow up afta SD FRC (are u sure bout dis) One of my questions is, how big is the hitbox on 6H because I'm thinkin that it can be used as a great AA which we can take advantage of the the air hit wall bounce, which in turn can be a combo follow-up...I haven't really read any info bout his combo potential...unless it was hiding in all that nonsense on the previous pages...
Mr. Mamation Posted April 25, 2007 Posted April 25, 2007 isnt there a thread that has all tis frame data
Darkhonor90 Posted April 26, 2007 Posted April 26, 2007 Besides from the information I got from the previous pages and the fact that Darkhonor juss posted somethin useful...most of that shit wasn't even worth readin...besides Pozer bein himself cuz he cracks me up... Besides, hasn't already been established that the Japanese are not playin Ky to his fullest potential, (from what I've seen) he's more of a Gimick character now, then solid stat, and his has a potential rise in lockdown game, GS an instant overhead(what fun) which is a follow up afta SD FRC (are u sure bout dis) One of my questions is, how big is the hitbox on 6H because I'm thinkin that it can be used as a great AA which we can take advantage of the the air hit wall bounce, which in turn can be a combo follow-up...I haven't really read any info bout his combo potential...unless it was hiding in all that nonsense on the previous pages... 6HS startup is way to slow for a AA consideirng anyone can see it from a mile awya and FD in the air.
Mr. Mamation Posted May 13, 2007 Posted May 13, 2007 well, ac is coming out soon and HNK isnt near me at the moment so i decided it is a good time to look at ky's frame data. the only advantages seem to be... HS (+1) 6K (+4) 6H (+2) 2P (+1) seems like you can still 6K loop in block strings at least Did 5K always have -80 prorate and -5? Also i will be the first to stun edge, frc, throw with the stun edge passing the opponent throught there back!
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