Kurushii Posted January 18, 2012 Posted January 18, 2012 Relius vs Haku a 4-6. Man I want to smoke what those players are on to give Relius a 4 in that matchup. He deserves a 3 :/
SansProtocol Posted January 18, 2012 Posted January 18, 2012 I would venture to say it's a 6.5/3.5 but then we're arguing semantics. Needless to say, it's blows.
Eshi Posted January 18, 2012 Posted January 18, 2012 Relius vs Haku a 4-6. Man I want to smoke what those players are on to give Relius a 4 in that matchup. He deserves a 3 :/On a related note, I think that Tager/Valk deserves a 3-7. Easily.
Jackie Chandler Posted January 18, 2012 Posted January 18, 2012 *looks at Makoto* So Eshi, about those money matches...
lilseph Posted January 18, 2012 Posted January 18, 2012 LOL Makoto. How the mighty have fallen. But seriously though wheres st1ckbug.
YukiBlue Posted January 18, 2012 Posted January 18, 2012 Okay. Serious impressions to further some speculative conversation: Makoto is not that bad Ragna is not that good Tager vs Hazama 5.5 made me wat For real though, only qualms are Ragna and Makoto.
St1ckBuG Posted January 18, 2012 Posted January 18, 2012 Where the fuck are the mirror matches? Why isn't it in timeline format?
mAc Chaos Posted January 18, 2012 Posted January 18, 2012 Where the fuck are the mirror matches? Why isn't it in timeline format? They're still trying to figure out which mirrors are even matchups and which are 7-3.
SansProtocol Posted January 18, 2012 Posted January 18, 2012 They're still trying to figure out which mirrors are even matchups and which are 7-3. Legitimate point. In some mirror matches, you have to save IBs for when you need them.
A.X.I.S. Posted January 18, 2012 Posted January 18, 2012 Okay. Serious impressions to further some speculative conversation: Makoto is not that bad Ragna is not that good Tager vs Hazama 5.5 made me wat For real though, only qualms are Ragna and Makoto. How is Ragna not that good? He has good damage where it counts (Everywhere) and he doesn't afraid of anything. Omni must be laughing out loud at the Makoto match ups.
Rhiya Posted January 18, 2012 Posted January 18, 2012 I get a tingly feeling whenever I see a match-up chart. Oh hay Tsubaki isn't dead last as a matter of fact... it doesn't seem like her match-ups changed much from CS2... realtalk no one in jp plays tsubaki and her chart is full of 5.0s 40 50 50 45 50 50 50 50 45 50 45 50 X 45 45 50 50 50 50 (-35) posts without fully understood match-ups just became 5.0 sooooooooooo
YukiBlue Posted January 18, 2012 Posted January 18, 2012 How is Ragna not that good? He has good damage where it counts (Everywhere) and he doesn't afraid of anything. Omni must be laughing out loud at the Makoto match ups.Sure his damage is great. But it's Ragna. Forever high mid
Rhiya Posted January 18, 2012 Posted January 18, 2012 How is Ragna not that good? rushdown with okay mixup and okay oki = okay character that simple
Errol Posted January 18, 2012 Posted January 18, 2012 from what I've seen on jbbs the consensus is that tsubaki and makoto are dead last.. the only argument is which is worse and if they're bad enough to be in their own tier. Whatever.
zeth07 Posted January 18, 2012 Posted January 18, 2012 Without splitting hairs, I can pretty much accept what they have for Bang's at least (from what I've seen watching a ton of matches only). There was nothing that really stood out like "wtf why do they have that". Although I might switch what they have for Vs. Hakumen and Vs. Taokaka, but that'd be me being picky.
YukiBlue Posted January 18, 2012 Posted January 18, 2012 It's funny how they nerf any character that wins a major, Did Tsubaki need nerfs?
Rhiya Posted January 18, 2012 Posted January 18, 2012 It's funny how they nerf any character that wins a major, Did Tsubaki need nerfs? She was mid-tier as hell with some solid stuff but nothing really exceptional (barring maybe 5b, which she needed, and 236D) aka fuck no
C0R Posted January 18, 2012 Posted January 18, 2012 Most of the time a character gets a big and blatent nerfbat, it's because they know something we don't. Which is to be expected, seeing as they actually make the game.
pktazn Posted January 18, 2012 Posted January 18, 2012 realtalk no one in jp plays tsubaki and her chart is full of 5.0s sooooooooooo Just in case though I would hope you caught on to it, my initial response was full of sarcasm.
Rhiya Posted January 18, 2012 Posted January 18, 2012 Most of the time a character gets a big and blatent nerfbat, it's because they know something we don't. Which is to be expected, seeing as they actually make the game. Man, it takes a lot to trust the devs so blindly. Or is it that hard to accept they're human, and can make some seriously bad mistakes in balancing? Just in case though I would hope you caught on to it, my initial response was full of sarcasm. sarcasm on my internets lies
StarGazer Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 Ragna is taking CS2 Makoto place, its already confirmed by bunch of big players like Buppa The poor people in EX for sure are Tsubaki and Makoto, I highly doubt that Tsubaki is just -3.5. They call it the Tsubakoto Tier Not sure if Tager should join them or not. Noel tier is taken from a stupid QQ chart on the JBBS, so don't count on it too much lol
Errol Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 Most of the time a character gets a big and blatent nerfbat, it's because they know something we don't. Which is to be expected, seeing as they actually make the game. Usually when they get a big and blatant nerfbat, it's because they're at the very top of the game? Of course I don't think S tier this game, D tier next game is great design, personally..
C0R Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 Man, it takes a lot to trust the devs so blindly. Or is it that hard to accept they're human, and can make some seriously bad mistakes in balancing? Not sure what you're so venomous about. BB balance has been, overall, incredibly fair. They've earned my trust, I didn't just decide to bequeath it to them. Usually when they get a big and blatant nerfbat, it's because they're at the very top of the game? Of course I don't think S tier this game, D tier next game is great design, personally.. *out of the blue* I forgot to include. Look at the Abel changelogs in SF for example, everyone thought he was completely fair, then he got it bad. And then they explained why and everyone was like: Ooooooo....
Kurushii Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 Jill nerf from MvC3 to UMvC3 made me cry. #LovedMyJumpLoops
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