[CSE] PSN Match Finder/GG Thread

[Zeron_X25]

At my low level of play I feel like Tager is a fraud character. 1 right "guess" + a couple spins of the stick = I just lost half my life. At least other characters who do that kinda damage have to put forth some effort after they "guess right".

Tager is one of the few characters where I feel like I lost the match instead of them winning it most of the time, but that's not how fighting games work (or anything really).

That's how I feel about Noel.

[advancedNoob]

What's up with people calling themselves low level on this forum? You guys are full of it and you know it.

Yeah, noel can be nasty with 4D and a few more moves, but she is nothing compared to what arakune can do to you by pressing A button, lol

Edited June 27, 2012 by advancedNoob

[DRS_Dragon]

That sentence made no sense.

LOL im tired as hell but dont want to sleep, so my english and typing skills suk beyond belief right now but u get the point lol

[zeth07]

That's how I feel about Noel.

What's up with people calling themselves low level on this forum? You guys are full of it and you know it.

Yeah, noel can be nasty with 4D and a few more moves, but she is nothing compared to what arakune can do to you by pressing A button, lol

Those would be the others, lol.

[Zeron_X25]

What's up with people calling themselves low level on this forum? You guys are full of it and you know it.

Yeah, noel can be nasty with 4D and a few more moves, but she is nothing compared to what arakune can do to you by pressing A button, lol

Well zeth was talking about low level play. I guess Arakune needs some execution to be truly terrifying.

LOL im tired as hell but dont want to sleep, so my english and typing skills suk beyond belief right now but u get the point lol

I didn't have a problem with your grammar. The problem was that I didn't get your message, as I said before. lol

[advancedNoob]

Execution applies to all though, however I did lose a match to a Ragna player who could only do 5b5c hf, rofl. Had me scratching my head for a minute

[Starlight777]

What's up with people calling themselves low level on this forum? You guys are full of it and you know it

I'm low level. For real dude.

Why is it that for some reason that I don't hate Noel,Tager and Arakune AT ALL, yet fucking Jin gives me rage-spasms.

No seriously, for some reason those three you guys are talking about don't bother me in the least.

Edited June 27, 2012 by Starlight777

[zeth07]

Well zeth was talking about low level play. I guess Arakune needs some execution to be truly terrifying.

Low to Mid level play I guess, like knowing combos and stuff at least. Arakune has that X-Factor.

I'm low level. For real dude.

Why is it that for some reason that I don't hate Noel and Arakune AT ALL, yet fucking Jin gives me rage-spasms.

The only thing that annoys me about Jin is the cross-up shit in the corner. And part of that is only because in CT Bang could cross-up ONLY Tager in the corner and yet they decided that wasn't cool and took it away in CS yet Jin has that now against everyone I guess.

Edited June 27, 2012 by zeth07

[Zeron_X25]

Execution applies to all though, however I did lose a match to a Ragna player who could only do 5b5c hf, rofl. Had me scratching my head for a minute

lol you too? Happens to all of us, I guess.

[Zeron_X25]

I'm low level. For real dude.

Why is it that for some reason that I don't hate Noel,Tager and Arakune AT ALL, yet fucking Jin gives me rage-spasms.

No seriously, for some reason those three you guys are talking about don't bother me in the least.

You play a really hard matchup like Arakune-Tager. It's the 3rd round and he has a pixel left. You try to hit him with a rather safe move. You mistime the meaty. You get 5A'd on wake up into 6B. Then he does air DD and gets full curse. He unleashes bugs on you, makes you use your burst, gets an instant overhead/crossup on you > 8k combo and you die. I think that's frustrating.

[Starlight777]

The only thing that annoys me about Jin is the cross-up shit in the corner. And part of that is only because in CT Bang could cross-up ONLY Tager in the corner and yet they decided that wasn't cool and took it away in CS yet Jin has that now against everyone I guess.

You reminded me of one of the many reasons I despise that character. I feel like such a dunce every time I get hit by those obvious cross ups. My favorite move to hate has to be 2D. It shits on neutral, takes primers and freezes. I'm never gonna stop hating that bastard.

@Zeron It's a good thing I don't play as Tager. That description just sounds like the Tager player should just turn the game off and scream into a pillow.

Edited June 27, 2012 by Starlight777

[Moy_X7]

Why is it that for some reason that I don't hate Noel,Tager and Arakune AT ALL, yet fucking Jin gives me rage-spasms.

Even when I can beat you just as hard with Platinum as I would with Jin? lol

I know that feel though. Tsubaki, Tager, Noel, and Lambda make me a lot saltier than any of the top-tier characters whose name is not Taokaka or Ragna. Tager, Noel, and Lambda because it's a huge guessing game with them... Buster/AC/5C/MTW+RC (Tager), 3C/4D/2D/j.D (Noel), 5D/6D/4B/4B+RC/Empty Jump Mix-up (Lambda). With Tsubaki, I just don't understand her pressure when Drive cancels come into play. I could push a button but that's exactly what they want me to do. I could just hold back+up but I could get tagged during jump start-up or by a low.

@Zeth - Once you get exposed to it enough, you'll block those cross-ups like nothing. That cross-up only works in the corner after 5B so you could always just yomi air throw him or some shit. It's when he has meter to do j.236D feints when you should be worried lol.

Edited June 27, 2012 by Moy_X7

[advancedNoob]

Tager's magnetism pulls bad match ups to him tbh. At least vs curse you can try to sledge and hope to get him, but then you look at tager vs mu or tager vs carl and its just WTF? When I see tager win these match ups, I start clapping with a smile on my face, and i don't even use him.

[Starlight777]

Even when I can beat you just as hard with Platinum as I would with Jin? lol

First off your Platinum doesn't seem anywhere close to level of annoying Jin is, in fact I felt like I was getting away with more than I should have when you were playing Platinum.

[toanenadiz]

@Zeth - Once you get exposed to it enough, you'll block those cross-ups like nothing. That cross-up only works in the corner after 5B so you could always just yomi air throw him or some shit. It's when he has meter to do j.236D feints when you should be worried lol.

Why didn't you use that cross up against me? I was waiting for you to spam it so I could learn how to handle it and then you didn't do it.

And you're not hating on Lambda's braindead 236D oki? 236D oki is the best thing that has happened to Lambda since she was Nu (4B[2] is a close second though).

[SenXXi]

And you're not hating on Lambda's braindead 236D oki? 236D oki is the best thing that has happened to Lambda since she was Nu (4B[2] is a close second though).

Did you notice the last time we played I got better at getting in, but I got shit on by 236D oki? fuuuuuuu

[TD]

4d that shit

[Moy_X7]

First off your Platinum doesn't seem anywhere close to level of annoying Jin is, in fact I felt like I was getting away with more than I should have when you were playing Platinum.

Really? I can end matches a lot quicker with Plat the moment I get you in the corner. What exactly is so annoying with Jin? If you block 2D, you can do 66 5A or just 5A and it will trade with most of the crap he throws at you. It's not a hard move to IB, so on IB you can just do 66 5A. With Plat, you pretty much have to guess on the TK Swallow oki in the corner and a wrong guess will cost you dearly while a right guess just prolongs the inevitable cracked defense.

I can't crack your defense with Jin. Oh wow, you get hit by 6A and lose a laughable amount of health and you can push 5A afterwards to keep him away.

At least you can take a match or two when I play as Jin, not so much with Plat unless I'm being really derp lol.

@ Toan - I did spam it at every chance I got when I pinned you down in the corner. The thing is, I very rarely pinned you down in the corner, let alone catch you lol.

I am hating on it, 236D > empty jump mix-up. That shit is like a free Hishougeki that's available to her at any time. Hishougeki can only be used in specific setups if I don't want to get mashed on and lose 25 Heat for nothing :/

Edited June 27, 2012 by Moy_X7

[SenXXi]

4d that shit

I actually tried that once or twice since I was aware of it and still got hit by sickle. Not sure if there is specific timing to it or I'm just bad lol

[toanenadiz]

Did you notice the last time we played I got better at getting in, but I got shit on by 236D oki? fuuuuuuu

And I got raped by 13 orphans oki. Ignoring the fact that mine's can be done midscreen and requires no meter, we equally suck with dealing with oki mix-up.

4d that shit

I can stop that easily now.

[TD]

I actually tried that once or twice since I was aware of it and still got hit by sickle. Not sure if there is specific timing to it or I'm just bad lol

use the advance input buffer and input it right before litchi's feet touch the ground and she'll become foot invul on the first frame. it might not work on toan anymore, but it still works against weaker lambdas and rarely on a stronger one. just keep the option open, practice it if you must

[Starlight777]

Really? I can end matches a lot quicker with Plat the moment I get you in the corner. What exactly is so annoying with Jin? If you block 2D, you can do 66 5A or just 5A and it will trade with most of the crap he throws at you. It's not a hard move to IB, so on IB you can just do 66 5A. With Plat, you pretty much have to guess on the TK Swallow oki in the corner and a wrong guess will cost you dearly while a right guess just prolongs the inevitable cracked defense.

At least you can take a match or two when I play as Jin, not so much with Plat unless I'm being really derp lol.

I just don't know what pisses me off about him anymore. I'm even more confused that Plat doesn't piss me off yet I lose to her in half the time it would take anyone using Jin. I just don't get it anymore.

I bid you good day.

[SenXXi]

use the advance input buffer and input it right before litchi's feet touch the ground and she'll become foot invul on the first frame. it might not work on toan anymore, but it still works against weaker lambdas and rarely on a stronger one. just keep the option open, practice it if you must

Yea I figured Toan was aware and knew how to deal with it. I wasn't sure how 4D avoided it so I looked up the hitbox to see if there was something I was missing. Makes sense now

[WolfCrimson]

The only way to really make her hurt for it is to make it whiff, and then you're too far half the time to punish it effectively.

If you have 4 stars, can't you Shippu if she whiffs her DP? Shippu has really fast startup.

Edited June 27, 2012 by WolfCrimson

[mAc Chaos]

Aw snap, I forgot all about that move.

I think people didn't get what I was saying though. I was saying that usually it isn't going to whiff because you're going to try and pressure, so even if you read it at the last second and she DPs, she can RC and continue pressure to stop you from doing anything about it.

If you're trying to make it whiff, you're going to be too far to make her feel pressured enough to DP. You can try to bait it by jumping back at the last second, but that would rule out Shippu.

Still something to try though...