Injustice: Gods Among Us

[Flipitaru]

It's still too early to determine who's top 5. Everyone seems to forget that tier lists are based off of match ups and not on how good the actual character is. Green Lantern, for example, is super good right now, but all of his tech has been figured out as apposed to Lex Luthor or Hawkgirl who people claim are bad but have no idea how to play them correctly. Tiers for this game should be discussed after EVO.

Edited May 10, 2013 by Flipitaru

[Hecatom]

Aaaaaaand, this game is confirmed as the 9th event for EVO 2013.

... O SEA, QUE PEDO

¿Y te sorprende que Evo incluya el Injustice?

[Elochai]

Tal vez él pensó que Injustice no es popular?

[Hecatom]

A estas alturas evo no es para los juegos con comunidades, si no para los desarrolladores que quieren promover sus juegos, SFxT jamas hubiera estado en evo de no ser por que capcom les tiro billete para promocionarlo, es lo mismo ke paso con mk9 y con injustice ahora.

[Elochai]

So, los desarrolladores pagan la gestión de EVO? Que es me extraño (I hope I used this right). Entonces ellos pueden poner cualquier juego a EVO. Juguemos algunos juegos muertos a EVO (por que tenemos mucho dinero) .

Edited May 9, 2013 by Elochai
Forgot a verb

[TekkamanArk]

Did I walk into a Spanish-version of the board?

[Bibiquadium]

Porque es tu madre una casa del mare, Injustice.

[Hecatom]

So, los desarrolladores pagan la gestión de EVO? Que es me extraño (I hope I used this right). Entonces ellos pueden poner cualquier juego a EVO. Juguemos algunos juegos muertos a EVO (por que tenemos mucho dinero) .

It has been like that since evo 2010, if a developer is willing to put money, they will put their game, just look how games like mk9, injustice or sfxt where choosen despite them not being out yet or being barely released or in the case of injustice like 2 months after the official line up announcement, or worse in the case of shit x tekken where the game is clearly a garbagestic game that keeps being pushed because capcom puts money into it.

Evo is no longer about the games and the communities behind it.

Edited May 9, 2013 by Hecatom

[iw2ma]

EVO is still about the games and communities.

It's just ALSO about the money and big games. It's in that middle spot of being indie and complete sellout.

[Celerity]

Personally I don't mind that an exception was made for Injustice (I guess partially because I'm entering :P), it would've been silly to not have the 3rd-4th most popular game in the lineup. Frankly, when the original lineup was announced, nobody knew whether this game would turn out to be trash or not. The verdict is in, the game is good, even the Capcom players want to play it, so why not? If Evo is getting money from WB and fans are getting their game, it's a win-win for everyone.

[White Man]

Evo is no longer about the games and the communities behind it.

EVO was never about the games. It's about a bunch of people getting together to pretend that the people who are really good at said games are real celebrity athletes who are role models to millions of young kids who will someday buy boxes of Wheaties with their pictures on the front. That's why companies can buy their way into the tournament so easily: it's comparatively cheap advertising for them, and the event organizers like the concept of a paid corporate presence because it helps them indulge in the fantasy that their video game playing is a Big Deal.

I'm honestly surprised anyone who isn't competing in EVO can muster the energy to care about the politics of what games are being featured. I thought the inclusion of Smash Bros. would be the final sign to the unconvinced that the whole thing was nothing but a group of nerds trying to validate their hobby-turned-frantic-obsession.

[Tigre]

If Evo is getting money from WB and fans are getting their game, it's a win-win for everyone.

Except it sets a precedent that if your game doesn't get in via donations like the other games, you can just buy your way in. Why bother donating if I know NetherRealms is just going to buy a spot?

It goes against the very nature of fair sport that EVO claims to support, as far as I'm concerned. The quality of the game is irrelevant (and subjective). It's also not win-win for everyone- what about ST who came super close with donations? That community hauled ass to get in to EVO and fell short.

How much money do we need to raise to get Fate Unlimited Code as a Main Stage game for EVO? Or hell lets make everyone suffer. Lets go with Phantom Breaker.

[SoWL]

Catherine or bust

If I were living in America and playing SSBB, I'd be mad, but I'm not, so I'm just glad I'll have more games to watch. Yeah, it's another hit for the organizers' reputation, but I don't think they even care at this point.

[Flipitaru]

Except it sets a precedent that if your game doesn't get in via donations like the other games, you can just buy your way in. Why bother donating if I know NetherRealms is just going to buy a spot?

It goes against the very nature of fair sport that EVO claims to support, as far as I'm concerned. The quality of the game is irrelevant (and subjective). It's also not win-win for everyone- what about ST who came super close with donations? That community hauled ass to get in to EVO and fell short.

How much money do we need to raise to get Fate Unlimited Code as a Main Stage game for EVO? Or hell lets make everyone suffer. Lets go with Phantom Breaker.

Well, you have to understand that Injustice is the new big game at the moment. You just can't leave it out with all the positive feedback it's getting. Don't think that the 8th game donation drive was in vain either. Having the option to donate for the game you wanted really did mean something. Skullgirls might not be one of the 9 games, but it will be having a huge side tournament. And ST will always be at EVO. Apparently, the melee people really wanted their game and they got it. Who knows, melee might be the hypest game at EVO. Just think of it as adding the 8th game really late and the 9th one was for the donation drive.

Besides, it's all about da beech anyways.

Edited May 10, 2013 by Flipitaru

[Tigre]

Well, you have to understand that Injustice is the new big game at the moment. You just can't leave it out with all the positive feedback it's getting.

Irrelevant to me. The game had the same rules as Smash Brothers which won, ST which came in 2nd, or Melty which got like, someones shoe. You can surely leave it out. Just because somethings new and shiny doesn't mean it should ignore the established rules.

Don't think that the 8th game donation drive was in vain either. Having the option to donate for the game you wanted really did mean something. Skullgirls might not be one of the 9 games, but it will be having a huge side tournament. And ST will always be at EVO.

The donation drive was not in vain in the sense that it raised funds for a great cause.

On the other hand the donation drive was a massive fucking failure in that it showed that you can completely bypass it by giving the EVO Staff money to get your game in. Having a huge side tournament is not the same your game on the main stage. The amount of attention that ST would have gotten on the main stage, the possibility of new players that could have picked it up, a way to show off their game to a larger audience- you can't even compare that to a side tournament. Sorry. If I were an ST player I would be livid right now. They played by the rules, and they didn't win. Injustice didn't win, NR threw money, magic extra main game! One of those efforts is community driven, the other is a company putting money out there to get more advertising for their new game. The game came out at an unfortunate time for EVO voting, not my problem to be honest.

Just think of it as adding the 8th game really late and the 9th one was for the donation drive.

I'm not going to sugarcoat this. The reality of the situation is that the Evolution staff have shown that they are willing to discard their rules if you give them money. It's dishonest, and not very sportsman like.

[YoYoCheese]

I like Injustice but... /salty Skullgirls fan

(Yes I know that that the SG side tourney's top 8 is being streamed. A side tournament is still a side tournament.)

[TPPR10]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCXUi2XueEc

Batgirl's gameplay trailer

No wheelchair action makes me

[SolxBaiken]

The sad thing is, I don't think Barbra looks bad at all [gameplay wise] but this isn't how I saw Cassandra fighting, so when she eventually gets her costume, I'll just cry v.v The way she warps and strings up people kind of reminds me of Machiko/Whip and it seems her trait might be shock blades? (extra hit stun?) I will say she has one of the cooler supers in the game (it seems all the DLC characters thus far have superior ones...)

Also [geek moment here] the worst thing about Barbra since N52 is the riding of past hype [Killing Joke]. Like that's pretty much the ENTIRE focus of Gaile Simone's run with her, in fact the only reason Batgirl's Death of the Family tie-ins weren't crap was due to Gail continually beating that hype cow. Honestly she was better off (and cooler) as Oracle, they could've kept the character and placed Stephanie in, but of course NRS seems to just want to jam as many references in here as possible... [and the other Batgirls have been blinked out of existence thanks to N52 ; -; ]

EDIT: Whoops, typed too long lol

[Celerity]

Irrelevant to me. The game had the same rules as Smash Brothers which won, ST which came in 2nd, or Melty which got like, someones shoe. You can surely leave it out. Just because somethings new and shiny doesn't mean it should ignore the established rules.

I guess this is where we disagree. Firstly, I don't think they broke any rules or promises. They promised that the winning game would get in, and it did.

Secondly, I could give a shit which game has more players with disposable income. It's a terrible way to measure which games deserve to be on the main stage. All of us on Dustloop play games which aren't as popular as the main games, and all of us probably believe they should be, but at the end of the day, the games with the most players should always be supported. Injustice was an unreleased wild card at the time of the announcement, but now it's clearly the 3rd or 4th most popular game. The people want it at Evo, so it should be there, and now it is. ST and Skullgirls players lost nothing. The TO's got paid, whatever. Everybody wins.

[Starlight777]

It's funny how Batgirl has smoke bomb teleports and Batman doesn't.

[Primiera]

Regardless of its morality with the donations, a large % of people watching EVO, if not the overwhelming majority of people, want Injustice as a main game. It's the big "in game" only Capcom FGs can surpass right now.

[iw2ma]

I was, and still am, mad Batgirl made it in as DLC. But damn she looked cool. I like ninja characters, and she's close as hell.

However, explosively fast multi-angle dive kicks, almost instant teleport tracking grab? wtf is wrong with you people, she looks so OP

[Kyosuke Kagami]

I was, and still am, mad Batgirl made it in as DLC. But damn she looked cool. I like ninja characters, and she's close as hell.

However, explosively fast multi-angle dive kicks, almost instant teleport tracking grab? wtf is wrong with you people, she looks so OP

She looks like a DC version of Mileena... but weirder.

[helix]

The sad thing is, I don't think Barbra looks bad at all [gameplay wise] but this isn't how I saw Cassandra fighting, so when she eventually gets her costume, I'll just cry v.v The way she warps and strings up people kind of reminds me of Machiko/Whip and it seems her trait might be shock blades? (extra hit stun?) I will say she has one of the cooler supers in the game (it seems all the DLC characters thus far have superior ones...)

Also [geek moment here] the worst thing about Barbra since N52 is the riding of past hype [Killing Joke]. Like that's pretty much the ENTIRE focus of Gaile Simone's run with her, in fact the only reason Batgirl's Death of the Family tie-ins weren't crap was due to Gail continually beating that hype cow. Honestly she was better off (and cooler) as Oracle, they could've kept the character and placed Stephanie in, but of course NRS seems to just want to jam as many references in here as possible... [and the other Batgirls have been blinked out of existence thanks to N52 ; -; ]

EDIT: Whoops, typed too long lol

imo, barbra is the best batgirl to me, but who cares about my opinion.

cassandra cain doesn't have much of a personality so so she would be boring, stephanie is boring and unappealing and she seems to be the weakest/least capable batgirl (barbra learned gymnastics , cassandra is a deadly assassin and stephanie is the daughter of a third-rate unkown villian... wait what ?)

barbra's batgirl comic in the new 52 is also really popular (more popular than the other batgirl comics i think) and barbra is the most well known and liked batgirl and cassandra and stephanie are both wiped out of continuity, so it would only be logical that they put barbara.

[SolxBaiken]

imo, barbra is the best batgirl to me, but who cares about my opinion.

cassandra cain doesn't have much of a personality so so she would be boring, stephanie is boring and unappealing and she seems to be the weakest/least capable batgirl (barbra learned gymnastics , cassandra is a deadly assassin and stephanie is the daughter of a third-rate unkown villian... wait what ?)

barbra's batgirl comic in the new 52 is also really popular (more popular than the other batgirl comics i think) and barbra is the most well known and liked batgirl and cassandra and stephanie are both wiped out of continuity, so it would only be logical that they put barbara.

You're entitled to your opinion, and while I don't agree with it, I can respect it.

But you've got to be kidding about the rest; Cassandra has no personality!? Have you not read her comics!? Easily one of the most complicated Bat-characters until the birth of Damien, but she's not just a angsty brute, she also has genuinely fun adventures and moments, also her under reliance on words makes her comics more thrilling because they're more visual than written, and as much as I love a good quip, a strong facial remark or body language is just dandy. And Stephanie unappealing? In the "Dark Age" her presence is a breathe of fresh air, the best thing about her is the fact that nothing extremely bad or traumatizing happened to her, she gets to be an enjoyable and likeable character for...being an enjoyable and likable person.

Also Cassandra remained highly popular after becoming Black Bat, and Stephanie was popular before becoming Batgirl as THE SPOILER~! In fact the biggest grievances of N52 related to the Bat-family (outside of Tim Drake seemingly skipping straight to Red Robin) is the complete deletion of both of these characters, almost no one was excited to see Barbra and if Gail Simone wasn't at least a good writer and built off the past hype of Killing Joke, no one would care (in fact it's the biggest complaint about the book, it's solid, but now Barbra has lost all her interesting facets of her personality and is just Batman 63). (Also Cassandra has the longest running Batgirl solo series)

Barbra has been at the height of popularity due to the Killing Joke and instead of being wiped off the board became Oracle instead.