Zeron_X25 Posted August 20, 2012 Posted August 20, 2012 Aren't Wölf cancels being removed in CP? I don't know. I don't follow his or any other character's changes. I'm saying as he is now, he doesn't need any. Even if he loses the drive cancels, he won't need it. Look how much Slayer's dust feint gets used... yeah.
Kyosuke Kagami Posted August 20, 2012 Posted August 20, 2012 I don't know. I don't follow his or any other character's changes. I'm saying as he is now, he doesn't need any. Even if he loses the drive cancels, he won't need it. Look how much Slayer's dust feint gets used... yeah. But I want to bait dem inferno dividahs, hakumanz' counters and all dat shit a feint would be perfect for that
Zeron_X25 Posted August 20, 2012 Posted August 20, 2012 But I want to bait dem inferno dividahs, hakumanz' counters and all dat shit a feint would be perfect for that If they can DP it by seeing it then they can block it too. Reacting to 6C is probably one of the easiest things to do in this game. The feint won't recover fast enough to punish Hakumen's D either so it's pointless.
YukiBlue Posted August 20, 2012 Posted August 20, 2012 As if Valkenhayn can't feint my shit all day already. 6C feint would be useless. Anyone can block that in their sleep.
.:TM:. Posted August 20, 2012 Posted August 20, 2012 Aren't Wölf cancels being removed in CP? No, infact he has more wolf cancels now off his ground C normals now.
shtkn Posted August 20, 2012 Posted August 20, 2012 iirc wolf cancels are now direction + D instead of direction + C. transformation is now 5D
SoWL Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 It's natural to wish for something that your character doesn't have, but you should keep in mind that the lack of options defines the character just as well as their presence. Sure, it would be great for Valk to have a reversal, but that would make him more similar to the rest of the cast, not to mention potential balance problems. I don't play Bang, but I imagine that giving anti-air to him is wrong by the same reasons.
BladeOfJustice7 Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 Have you heard of this character called Taokaka? Cause I'm about 99.9% sure she has a regular anti-air as well. No one likes Tao, do you want to not be liked as well? At this point, Bang not having a true anti air is just another special thing about him. Yup. He doesn't need a feint when you can already wolf cancel his 6C for a mixup. Yup, what is a feint exactly. Because I always defined his wolf cancel off 6c as a feint as well. Aren't Wölf cancels being removed in CP? That would kill part of his mixup game. But I want to bait dem inferno dividahs, hakumanz' counters and all dat shit a feint would be perfect for that You already can by cancelling it into wolf form. biter did it to Spark as EVO 2011. iirc wolf cancels are now direction + D instead of direction + C. transformation is now 5D Transformation was always 5d, they changed the movement. Now in wolf form instead of pressing c+direction, you're pressing d+direction, c is now a low sweeping normal with his tail. However wolf cancels are still d+direction as well. At least from my understanding of Valk's changes/nerfs. It's natural to wish for something that your character doesn't have, but you should keep in mind that the lack of options defines the character just as well as their presence. Sure, it would be great for Valk to have a reversal, but that would make him more similar to the rest of the cast, not to mention potential balance problems. I don't play Bang, but I imagine that giving anti-air to him is wrong by the same reasons. Yea heavy rtsd characters usually don't have reversals anyways, they want you to have minimal to no options on wakeup but have so many options on oki and to get in on your opponent. Looks like this thread is back on track.
Mumm-Ra Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 I just want Arakune to have super armor during curse. Is that too much to ask?
Litherain-XIII Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 I just want Arakune to have super armor during curse. Is that too much to ask? yes
Akira-Shiro Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 lol that,, im stealing it.. But have they announced when this next loketest will be taking place,, cause im pretty sure everyone is eager to have more juicy info on there characters revealed?????
Mumm-Ra Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 It could work though. Make bugs use a set aumount of curse meter, increase bug damage, add super armor and make the curse meter decrease on hit.
Lord Pwnge18 Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 lol that,, im stealing it.. But have they announced when this next loketest will be taking place,, cause im pretty sure everyone is eager to have more juicy info on there characters revealed????? The 24th through the 26th in Osaka. just read the goddamn thread
Vulcan422 Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 I just want Arakune to have super armor during curse. Is that too much to ask? That would be 100% broken as fuck. For Unlimited Arakune it would be favorable since his curse doesn't last very long but for regular Arakune? Fuck that.
Akira-Shiro Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 thankyou, and i have absolutely no intention of flipping through 150+ pages of useless crap just to find what im looking for and also keep the attitude to yourself it wasnt needed. But thanks for the info anyway
Mumm-Ra Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 (edited) That would be 100% broken as fuck. For Unlimited Arakune it would be favorable since his curse doesn't last very long but for regular Arakune? Fuck that. I don't see why being able to take a couple of pokes during 10 seconds of "hard-earned" curse could be considered broken as fuck Take into consideration that bugs use curse meter now, so curse is also shorter. Edited August 21, 2012 by Mumm-Ra
TD Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 cant wait to see more of this amane chicktrap dude in action. from the way he was described, playstyle wise he's going to be a good screen denial and harassment character which is fun. actually his floaty attacks kinda remind me of the sexy bonne jenet. except he's not sexy. but if he were a girl he'd be sexy....! w-wait! l take that back!
BladeOfJustice7 Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 thankyou, and i have absolutely no intention of flipping through 150+ pages of useless crap just to find what im looking for and also keep the attitude to yourself it wasnt needed. But thanks for the info anyway He was referring to reading the BB news thread: BBCS News only. Anything else = TEMPBAN BlazBlue Chrono Phantasm announced, loketests Aug 24-26!
YukiBlue Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 So do you think Hakumen nerfs just make him more of a unique character? Or was he just too good in Extend? Of course I think the latter, but I'd like to hear from a Hakumen player. Tell me what new Haku looks like.
BladeOfJustice7 Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 So do you think Hakumen nerfs just make him more of a unique character? Or was he just too good in Extend? Of course I think the latter, but I'd like to hear from a Hakumen player. Tell me what new Haku looks like. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn1VGytzXus ^The chorus for the above song is what he's looking like. Unless a character sucks a$$.mp3, people will complain about them. Anyways not gonna beat a dead horse any further. At the top of my mind i can't think of a character being nerfed to hell made them unique (in a good way), so you can enlighten me on that.
Calamitus Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 I guess i need only some things from CP: 1. Make Imperator Librarius as unique character (that "sword of imperator" in CS ending sounds like Saya will replace Nu/Lambda) 2. Return Haz and Bang eng old voice (best perfomances from all cast, in my humble opinion) 3. Give option to change to original soundtrack Also i have a question: characters overdrives are concepts or final versions? I mean some overdrives look way better compare to others.
YukiBlue Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 (edited) Le SnipAt the end of the day you just need to get over the nerfs and carry on. It's not like he needed buffs or anything in Extend. A dozen pages back we had the little Hakumen rant about the Drive, Damage output etc. I think they're justified. Hakumen is a defensive character by design, yet in Extend he could Rushdown, Zone, Fuck Oki to hell, Punish Mixups and get incredible damage for it all. He should be a heavy hitting character that has to make good reads. They nerfed him to emphasise his strengths. They nerfed Bang and Arakune (And I'm sure more too.) just as hard for the same reasons I assume. It's obvious. Less damage across the board. More smart play. Also, sorry for ass formatting and grammar. I'm so tired. @Calamitus - Expect changes, but don't expect it to be perfect first time. Edited August 21, 2012 by YukiBlue
Vulcan422 Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 1. Make Imperator Librarius as unique character (that "sword of imperator" in CS ending sounds like Saya will replace Nu/Lambda) 2. Return Haz and Bang eng old voice (best perfomances from all cast, in my humble opinion) 3. Give option to change to original soundtrack 1. Probable, given that there's one unannounced "boss" character. 2. Yes to Bang, fuck no to Hazama. Keep his Extend voice, it sounds way better and more fitting to his personality. The old voice sounded really boring and not how Hazama should sound. 3. Pretty sure they'll have the old soundtracks too somewhere along the line.
Calamitus Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 1. Probable, given that there's one unannounced "boss" character. 2. Yes to Bang, fuck no to Hazama. Keep his Extend voice, it sounds way better and more fitting to his personality. The old voice sounded really boring and not how Hazama should sound. 3. Pretty sure they'll have the old soundtracks too somewhere along the line. 1. There is no doubt that she will be playable. I tried to focus attention on her playstyle. Arcs just can give her Nu/Lamba playstyle but that will be too uncreative and boring. 2. I have quite opposite opinion about this. New H voice sounds like street teen. His voice is especially bad when he trying to show madness or anger. In Valk bad ending when Haz tried to kill him, he looks dumber than Tao with such voice. Older one sound much more intelligent, sly and arrogant. I know he is based partially on Gin from Bleach (never saw it) but he shoudnt be just cheap copy of him (cause Doug Erholtz voiced Ichimaru).
Blade Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 Dumb question, but has anyone checked to see if the game has new Palettes?
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