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Rele

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Wind recovery seems to be more like CT/CS1 now (moderately fast directly after using wind instead of painfully slow).

I welcome that change.

gamester

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Well from what I've seen today, I feel confident things will work out in due time :)

Day 2 tomorrow, going to be on the edge of my seat again waiting for more video footage xD

Rhannmah

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Wind recovery seems to be more like CT now

Yep, wind regen seems to start about 60 frames or something after using a wind

Well from what I've seen today, I feel confident things will work out in due time :)

Day 2 tomorrow, going to be on the edge of my seat again waiting for more video footage xD

we got pretty lucky to have that many matches on day 1, really. I wouldn't get my hopes up

gamester

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That's why I said in due time. I just feel what we've managed to see so far is a start and I feel confident that things can work out eventually but yeah, I just want to watch more videos tomorrow and see how things go as time passes by xD

Sakaku

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snExQuqJvQk&feature=player_detailpage#t=1227s

This looks like Litchi hits one bat and the other two disappear as well. So.. they can simply attack the bats to make them go away? Or does Litchi hit Rachel? Can't really see it clearly. But even then that wouldn't make sense because in one video against Hakumen they still are floating around him when he combos Rachel.

IOH also seems to work on Rachel and I see now reason why it shouldn't work on Noel when it works on Litchi who has arguably a smaller crouchbox than Noel.

Random day 1 combos nobody cares about:

  • (midscreen) 5B > 5C > 3C > 8D > 5B > j.C > j.2D > j.C > BBL > frog > 3C[sMP] > 236A (Ragna / 3374)
  • (midscreen) 3C > 8D > 5B > j.2C [lvl2] > 236B > j.C > j.214C > BBL (Arakune / 27?1)
  • (midscreen) 4B > OD > 5B > 6A > (bluebeat) 236A > (dash) > 5B > j.C > j.2D > j.C > (Litchi / 2106)
  • (midscreen) 5A(2) > 5B > 5CD > 3C > 8D > 6A > 4B > 236A (Rachel / 2184)
  • (corner) pumpkin > 5B > 2B > 5B > 5CDC > 5B > 6A > 236A > ?? (Arakune / 26??)
  • (corner) j.A > j.B > (dash) > 5B > 236A > RC > (dash) > 3C(1) > 214C > (dash) > 6A > 4B > pumpkin (Arakune / ????)
  • (corner) Grab > 5B > 6A > 236A > 3C > 214B (Rachel / 2111)
  • (corner) Grab > 5B > 6A > 236A > 6A > 4B > 214A (Rachel / 2322?)
  • (corner) Grab > 5B > 6A > 236A > 6A > 4B > (dash) > 3C(1) > 214C > 6A > BBL (Rachel / 3079)
  • (corner) j.B > (dash) > 2A > 5B > 5CDC > 5B > 6A > 236A > 6A > 4B (Rachel / 2179)

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gamester

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Possibly the 2 different types of Bat have different properties (is that the word I'm looking for)... I guess one bat input vanishes when hit while the other bat input doesn't vanish?

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samthegreat

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5B starter, 3.4k with BBL is pretty bad... I read 4k meterless was possible on jbbs, I hope to see better combos soon. Looks like she changed a lot anyway.

samthegreat

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It's possible in extend in the corner with a pole already set up, but yeah...

EDIT: 5B > 5C > 3C > 8D > 5B > j.C > j.2D > j.C > BBL > frog > 3C > 236A does 4063 in EX...

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kotokot

kotokot

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4k meterless is pretty nuts

in extend you can do ~5k meterless. Still waiting for j.2C lv3 combos, i hope j.2C lv3>214A>5C>236B still works, at least in corner. Interesting if 1 wind j.2C lv3 midscreen still possible.

Sakaku

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@samthegreat: You should rather check how much damage the combo does up to BBL. Repeat proration of 3C fucks the 3C > frog > 236A part up anyways.

This is only theory but I imagine stuff like 5B > 5CD > 3C > 8D > j.C > j.2D > j.C > BBL > 214A > 4B > 5B > (frog) > 236A > 236A > (dash) > 3C > 214B could work. Gonna make a combo thread later so we don't have to combo theory here.

kotokot

kotokot

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ゼロ ‏@tokihazero

むきゅー！ジンと同じ条件のゲージ75%ODで5B始動適当5600出たからそれくらい使えば出るんだってー。

ゼロ ‏@tokihazero

5B始動6700出た。

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Sakaku

Sakaku

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Lots of Jager Rachel on today's Kouhatsu stream, haven't seen anything new except of combos though.

[midscreen] 5B > 5CD > 8D > 3C > 5B > 6A > [crush trigger] (knocks the opponent down) > 5B > j.C > 2D > jc > j.C > BBL

wasn't doing that much damage, but the starter was 2AA so it's not surprising.

[corner] 3[C] > 8D > 5B > j.C > 2D > j.2C > [lvl2] > 4B > 5CC> 6A > double BBL (4381)

[corner] winded pumpkin > 2B > 5B > 3C > 8D > (dash) > 6A > 4C > 5CC > 214B > 3C(1) > 214A (1836)

pumpkin and frog oki, yay.

[corner] backthrow into corner > 5B > 6A > 236A > (dash) > 6A > 4C > 5CC (whiffs the 5CC, combodrop) (2222)

[corner w/ pole] 2B > 5B > 5C > 214C > (dash) > 5B > 6A > 236A > 6A > 4C > 5CC > 214B > 3C(1) > 214A (2635)

> Same combo does 3k starting from 5B

[near corner] 5B > 5CD > 3[C] > (dash) > 5B > j.C > 2D > j.2C [lvl2] > j.214B > (dash) > 6A > 4B > (dash) > 5CC (whiffs the 5CC, combodrop) (3???)

[corner] 5B > 5CDC > 214A > 5B > 6A > 236A > 2B > 5B > (frog) > 4B > 3C > 214B (3???)

> combo did 2,9k starting from 2B

Rhannmah

Rhannmah

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Lots of Jager Rachel on today's Kouhatsu stream, haven't seen anything new except of combos though.

There isn't any archive of this, is there?

Someone needs to tell the japanese that twitch.tv archives videos automatically...

Sakaku

Sakaku

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It was streamed via Ustream, but I recorded it with shaky handycam. I can upload it to yt if you want.

Yaaay

Yaaay

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It means Zero has found a 6.7k combo from 5B with Rachel, pretty much. Also:

fM3Ch.jpg

Hime-sama establishing dominance!

ON YOUR KNEES.

In Litchi's ending, she also kneels before Rachel. :)

Amane doesn't kneel but Rachel appears in his ending. Our princess seems to be even more involved to the plot now...

Kuuhaku

Kuuhaku

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まるっきり練られてないけど一応投下

立ちくらい限定（おそらくバング不可）

5B>6B(jc)>JB3D>J2C>5B>6CD>8D>J2C>5B>3C

画面中央可能　ダメ３０００くらい

Can anyone clarify as to whether or not this post confirms that 6B jump cancellable?

EDIT: Nevermind. Looks like it is.

カウンター６Ｂジャンプキャンセル、

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TD

TD

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l hope jp finds a way to make george useful in combos again. from what it looks like alot of her combos right now have her doing alot of stuff with wind and nothing concerning wind regen in midscreen or corner. based off the changes l have absolutely no idea how theyre going to even do this...

about crush trigger, is it safe or unsafe? is it cancellabe? lots of characters use it for combos right now for the bounce but how big is the bounce?

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