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YukiBlue

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Bang has always had "Kind of" long combos. It would be hard to get rid of them without killing the character. It's just how he plays.

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Anyone noticed that double cross-up in that Kirei na vs. Dr.Doom match(45 seconds into the second video)? Wow! Musasabi's gonna give a lot of mix-up options.

DragonLordZ

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Anyone noticed that double cross-up in that Kirei na vs. Dr.Doom match(45 seconds into the second video)? Wow! Musasabi's gonna give a lot of mix-up options.

This, it seems like Musasabi is goin to give some really tricky mixup opportunities if people learn to use it well.

Also, does anyone know if you can cancel 2B/6D into OD? Because that sounds like a good way to get some killing damage!

Dreiko

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This, it seems like Musasabi is goin to give some really tricky mixup opportunities if people learn to use it well.

Also, does anyone know if you can cancel 2B/6D into OD? Because that sounds like a good way to get some killing damage!

I'm almost positive we can cancel both, yeah. Anything special-cancellable is OD-cancellable.

DragonLordZ

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I'm almost positive we can cancel both, yeah. Anything special-cancellable is OD-cancellable.

I really hope this is true, as hitconfirming 2B on a crouching opponent and then going into overdrive for either straight daifunka/FRKZ combo sounds sexy

kaeru

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Im pretty sure 2B losing jump cancel and 5B gaining jump cancel was mentioned in the JBBS. But i hadn't heard of the 2B=>6B gatling. That is going to lead to some SERIOUSLY scary mixup. 6B is freaking devastating as it is already with only it's 5A and 5C gatlings. I've never used a 6B rapid mixup and not hit my opponent. If we can do it at the end of a 2B blockstring it's going to be freaking amazing. Especially considering people will be either waiting for super crash(with or without crush trigger) or 2C. This is really amazing..

Dreiko

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Im pretty sure 2B losing jump cancel and 5B gaining jump cancel was mentioned in the JBBS. But i hadn't heard of the 2B=>6B gatling. That is going to lead to some SERIOUSLY scary mixup. 6B is freaking devastating as it is already with only it's 5A and 5C gatlings. I've never used a 6B rapid mixup and not hit my opponent. If we can do it at the end of a 2B blockstring it's going to be freaking amazing. Especially considering people will be either waiting for super crash(with or without crush trigger) or 2C. This is really amazing..

Furthermore, I read 6A>6B is ALSO possible. Imagine the mixups.

kaeru

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O____O that's too good to be true... I'll believe that one when i see it! but if it's true, bang will officially be unblockable when he has 50 meter.

GreekAngel

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Furthermore, I read 6A>6B is ALSO possible. Imagine the mixups.

WHY IS THIS TOO GOOD!? ITS SOOOOOOO DUUUUUMB XD

kaeru

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WHY IS THIS TOO GOOD!? ITS SOOOOOOO DUUUUUMB XD

in extend, 6B RC rapid combos do about 4k and are rarely blocked by anyone. Especially considering you can set it up to be 4 Overheads (5C, 6B RC, airdash, j.B, j.C).

Being able to place a 6B after 2B (which normally ended pressure) is amazing. Being able to do it after 6A which is where we usually setup a frame trap is just ridiculous. I highly doubt there is going to be a 6A - 6B gatling though. I hope i'm wrong !

GreekAngel

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They mess with our D nails to give us the most ridiculous gatling ever....

I'm down with that type of low high

kaeru

kaeru

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i actually find the Dnails to be REALLY cool, have you seen how you can Dnail glide now? You can airdash, toss Dnails, then continue falling foward instead of being forced to the ground straight. I think it actually makes Dnails better at covering ground then before, you see a few pages back in one of zeth's vids

DragonLordZ

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Okay, I NEEEEEEED confirmation on the 6A>6B thing, safe on block, only just unsafe on IB low into overhead that makes you airborn? The FUCK is this?

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kaeru

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=01sy2F5sxmc#t=570s

it seems true..... too bad he messed up the input after the rapid. If it works like it does in extend, he shoudlve inputted airdash, j.B, j.2C

also it might be mashable after the low, hard to say, just because 6A is safe on block doesn't mean there is enough time for 6B to get active. But it's freaking scary....... i can't believe they did this. Also there's no way to know if 6A is even safe on block in this game. It's all just speculative.

Dreiko

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See, I told ya guys, I'm not making shit up here XD. 6A seems to be even more important now and they did the impossible of making 6B a move people will use now...and not by accident.

DragonLordZ

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=01sy2F5sxmc#t=570s

it seems true..... too bad he messed up the input after the rapid. If it works like it does in extend, he shoudlve inputted airdash, j.B, j.2C

also it might be mashable after the low, hard to say, just because 6A is safe on block doesn't mean there is enough time for 6B to get active. But it's freaking scary....... i can't believe they did this. Also there's no way to know if 6A is even safe on block in this game. It's all just speculative.

Wait, I watched that video and didn't notice that, fuck.

And I suppose we dont have a way to know if 6A is safe anymore but I agree with you it's quite, QUITE horrifying Bang confirmed for Bang's worst matchup.

GreekAngel

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And that gatling is the greatest thing since inescapable command grab.

Dora was fucking right, pardon my language

zeth07

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Bang Matches:

http://youtu.be/0J23miFNiqU?t=3m56s = Fuwahiyo (Hakumen) vs. Buppa (Bang)

http://youtu.be/hFdJBQfyFKg?t=13m25s = Kijoui (Bang) vs Matei (Jin)

http://youtu.be/hFdJBQfyFKg?t=17m6s = Kijoui (Bang) vs Shikata (Carl)

http://youtu.be/hFdJBQfyFKg?t=21m36s = Kijoui (Bang) vs Sazanami (Litchi)

http://youtu.be/hFdJBQfyFKg?t=54m47s = Kagayama (Hakumen) vs Kijoui (Bang)

http://youtu.be/s_gxsyp3lO0 = Q (Azrael) vs Natsunoa (Bang)

http://youtu.be/s_gxsyp3lO0?t=9m18s = Komoji (Jin) vs Natsunoa (Bang)

http://youtu.be/s_gxsyp3lO0?t=16m50s = Biriou (Platinum) vs Natsunoa (Bang)

http://youtu.be/s_gxsyp3lO0?t=25m4s = Mido (Hakumen) vs Natsunoa (Bang)

http://youtu.be/s_gxsyp3lO0?t=27m49s = Q (Azrael) vs Natsunoa (Bang)

http://youtu.be/amiO4JdfynY = Mido (Hakumen) vs Natsunoa (Bang)

kaeru

kaeru

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Zeth, you are the greatest. Thanks for organizing all the videos.

Oh and Kaeru, you should edit your sig to include the "IN RAI" bits~

i've been considering it :3

YukiBlue

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6A > 6B

In all honesty that would simply be too strong. If 6A retains +1 and it becomes a gatling. Only Spark could block that. Not even going into RC mixups. If we get that Gatling, Bang and his mixup will just become ridiculous.

(But also DELICIOUS PLEASE LET IT BE TRUE)

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