Mucky Posted February 13, 2013 Posted February 13, 2013 Who the hell is going to get hit by that though? It's 24 frames and he has to be in the air which is blatantly obvious. You're not actually complaining about that are you? I don't even main Bang and I'm already thinking of ways to utilize j.D in pressure strings. Assuming j.D still gatlings off j.C: airdash j.B > j.C > j.D falling j.C > j.D 6B > RC > airdash j.B > j.C > j.D Basically any aerial pressure string that traditionally ended with j.C is now a 50/50 between Bang landing and going for 2A or throwing out an extra overhead. That's gotta be worth something.
crystalwind Posted February 13, 2013 Posted February 13, 2013 what the fuck kind of Ikaruga god wizardry is this!? JD OVERHEADS, FRKZ DASH INVINCIBILITY, 3C INVINCIBILITY, D ATTACKS GUARD ALL, 3 NEW AIRDASHES, YO THIS SHIT IS TOO FUCKING HYPE!! "Forward grab P1:100 P2:60 : Rapid cancel->combo is not available anymore. If Bang throw his opponent at the corner, the opponent will slide down instead of wall bouncing" GOD FUCKING DAMMIT LIFE!!!! Now we'll never get our CS1 astral combo back T.T Pardon my language Uh.. um. "When Bang is at a corner side and he grab his opponent toward mid-screen, then the opponent gonna slide down instead of wall bounding" would help your feeling i guess? Sorry for misconception.
zeth07 Posted February 13, 2013 Posted February 13, 2013 I don't even main Bang and I'm already thinking of ways to utilize j.D in pressure strings. Assuming j.D still gatlings off j.C: airdash j.B > j.C > j.D falling j.C > j.D 6B > RC > airdash j.B > j.C > j.D Basically any aerial pressure string that traditionally ended with j.C is now a 50/50 between Bang landing and going for 2A or throwing out an extra overhead. That's gotta be worth something. Can you tell me what he gets off j.D starter in BBCP?
mAc Chaos Posted February 13, 2013 Posted February 13, 2013 Damage isn't that important. Look at Haku 6B. The reason it's good is because it screws with the opponent's reflexes and stops them from just holding down back.
Dat_Boy_DeAnte Posted February 13, 2013 Posted February 13, 2013 Can you tell me what he gets off j.D starter in BBCP? Probably 2A, 2B,2C? who knows until we see it. LET THE HYPE CONTINUE!!!!
Mucky Posted February 13, 2013 Posted February 13, 2013 Can you tell me what he gets off j.D starter in BBCP? Assuming he's close enough to the ground, 2A should work. At least it does in Extend. Or were you asking how much damage/heat he gets from a full combo? I'd have no idea.
zeth07 Posted February 13, 2013 Posted February 13, 2013 Probably 2A, 2B,2C? who knows until we see it. LET THE HYPE CONTINUE!!!! He can only combo off it from CH as far as I'm aware in BBCP. I don't think it is worth complaining about is all I'm saying.
GreekAngel Posted February 13, 2013 Posted February 13, 2013 Uh.. um. "When Bang is at a corner side and he grab his opponent toward mid-screen, then the opponent gonna slide down instead of wall bounding" would help your feeling i guess? Sorry for misconception. Ohhhhh.... I see. Thanks for the translations, though.
YukiBlue Posted February 13, 2013 Posted February 13, 2013 Well shit. That last made me feel tingly as fuck. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Solemen Posted February 13, 2013 Posted February 13, 2013 Frame data seems to be in par with zeth07's post. http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?14980-CP-Bang-Changes-and-Discussion/page37&p=1439838&viewfull=1#post1439838 I loved CS2 Bang's Grab where it slides and his corner combo was damaging because of it. I've never liked Bang's current EX grab to be honest... I am now curious to know what is the range when the grab will switch to a bounce or slide... FRKZ 2C is still untechable. I have to find a clip that shows that cause most Bang's I've seen go for 2C -> FRKZ dash -> 6C. Also, god damn, its P2 proration D=... I think I can see why they turn down a bit of Bang's damage because of the buff traits the seal now do. I wonder if the damage drives stack with FRKZ's damage buff? Sorry if this was answered already... I feel they should slightly buff the P2 proration of 623B and 2C tho. On a side note, doesn't jD now causes a mini ground bounce instead of untech time? Because of that, you can't combo into 2B but into 5A or Daifunka. I am not sure if this is different in FRKZ tho (may not be an issue if a FRKZ dash is available).
zeth07 Posted February 14, 2013 Posted February 14, 2013 On a side note, doesn't jD now causes a mini ground bounce instead of untech time? Because of that, you can't combo into 2B but into 5A or Daifunka. I am not sure if this is different in FRKZ tho (may not be an issue if a FRKZ dash is available). For standing combos yes, you can go into 5A for a simple combo, or do the seals combo if you don't go into 5A. Or you do the better "IAD" combos ignoring j.D entirely (like in Extend). For CH combos, you can go into 2B. Near or in the corner you can get 4 seals, anywhere else you can do a different combo for ~3000. Seal combo: (Corner) JDch>2B>5D>dash 6D>C Nail>2D>JC>J2C Other combo: JDch>2B>5B>JC>IAD JC>delay J2C>5A>5B>Aerial From the jp wiki (which has a lot of information actually).
GreekAngel Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 (edited) http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ZShKSBjNrEY#t=663s Because Dora is experimenting with FRKZ and It would take too long to get everything individually, plus, Dora's doing some pretty stupid shit Dora Training part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ZShKSBjNrEY#t=1411s Edited February 15, 2013 by GreekAngel
Dreiko Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 http://youtu.be/ZShKSBjNrEY?t=16m58s This has to be the most clutch confirm I've ever seen.
GreekAngel Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 http://youtu.be/ZShKSBjNrEY?t=16m58s This has to be the most clutch confirm I've ever seen. That seems convenient
DragonLordZ Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 The thing that interests me the most (apart from how IMPOSSIBURU Dora is making these FRKZ combos look) is this moment http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ZShKSBjNrEY#t=938s A 5B clash with ID? That 5B hitbox must have been buffed, or ID was nerfed but I'm not sure about that.
zeth07 Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 http://youtu.be/ZShKSBjNrEY?t=16m58s This has to be the most clutch confirm I've ever seen. Messing up an input then dropping the combo is the "most clutch confirm you've ever seen"? Ok......
GreekAngel Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 Messing up an input then dropping the combo is the "most clutch confirm you've ever seen"? Ok...... Bang's JD momentum seems completely different now, so maybe it makes picking up a combo after whiffing it easier?
Dreiko Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 I think JD has less recovery on whiff which allows for the 5A to combo or 2D counter has a longer/higher stun property. Either way, he seemed to just instinctively mash 5A to pick up just for the hell of it and he did get it. That's clutch. :D
rei-Scarred Posted February 17, 2013 Posted February 17, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnNj3JfHjLg&feature=player_detailpage#t=113s cp bang is retarded. gl
Lucalibur Posted February 17, 2013 Posted February 17, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnNj3JfHjLg&feature=player_detailpage#t=113s cp bang is retarded. gl Well, it WAS off a 2B but this is still pretty sexy.
GreekAngel Posted February 17, 2013 Posted February 17, 2013 (edited) Rei just summed up every single thought i have about CP Bang in 4 words http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZShKSBjNrEY&feature=player_detailpage#t=1250s Almost forgot to post the simplest of FRKZ BnBs Edited February 17, 2013 by GreekAngel
Dat_Boy_DeAnte Posted February 17, 2013 Posted February 17, 2013 http://youtu.be/ZShKSBjNrEY?t=16m58s This has to be the most clutch confirm I've ever seen. I am so glad I am not the only one who saw that! Its good to see someone has eyes like me. Damn his is so good! I would love to fight him!
GreekAngel Posted February 17, 2013 Posted February 17, 2013 (edited) http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ne91q1Ib_M0#t=456s More FRKZ BnBs from Ikegami. He knows how to make toast. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ne91q1Ib_M0#t=529s Ikegami's most practical use of meter and umbrella. Totally is, is it? o.o Edited February 17, 2013 by GreekAngel
DragonLordZ Posted February 17, 2013 Posted February 17, 2013 It's nice to see Bangs winning tournaments, it means our character isn't nerfed to crap but I'm sad to see that no one has used Bang's new DD since the first two months lol, maybe everyone caught on to it and its just another silly gimmick. Profound sadness.
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