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Dreiko

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If they delay the tech they risk further comboing and unlike Ragna's 22C which happened when the combo had already done 4k and was prorated to hell, here the crouching 5D usually happens with only a few hits before it, meaning if you don't tech a 1.4k combo risks becoming a 2.9k combo.

I see myself doing meaty dash 2D after 5D midscreen. If they're mashing DP it should win, if they block it I can jump cancel it into stuff, if they don't tech I got 4 seals.

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If they delay the tech they risk further comboing and unlike Ragna's 22C which happened when the combo had already done 4k and was prorated to hell, here the crouching 5D usually happens with only a few hits before it, meaning if you don't tech a 1.4k combo risks becoming a 2.9k combo.

I see myself doing meaty dash 2D after 5D midscreen. If they're mashing DP it should win, if they block it I can jump cancel it into stuff, if they don't tech I got 4 seals.

If they don't tech then realise their folly and burst out of the seal combo you get that too, plus 2D seal and possibly a bait if the guardpoint matches up right.

GreekAscendedDust

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Just a bit closer >.< Can't believe I haven't tried that yet in CS. Is CP the only version where air grab gatlings into Astral?
CS1 Bang had that ability. It was the best part of that game
Dreiko

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You can do air grab astral in EX too, it's just very very situational and whiffs on a couple of people.

GreekAscendedDust

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You can do air grab astral in EX too, it's just very very situational and whiffs on a couple of people.
But we finally got our most reliable way to combo into astral again. OH GOD THE MEMORIES OF CS1.... Those were the most beautiful of times... I think i'm crying happy tears
bakahyl

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Not sure if i am supposed to be feeling bad for all the Bang users for not being to reliably combo into an astral , unlike Mu who can combo from almost anything into her astral

GreekAscendedDust

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Not sure if i am supposed to be feeling bad for all the Bang users for not being to reliably combo into an astral , unlike Mu who can combo from almost anything into her astral

We can always wake up TK astral, like I have quite a number of times when we fought. Its just that I have more reason to start using regular throws now. Its like a christmas present to all of us who had to randomly pull off astrals for 2 years.

bakahyl

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We can always wake up TK astral, like I have quite a number of times when we fought. Its just that I have more reason to start using regular throws now. Its like a christmas present to all of us who had to randomly pull off astrals for 2 years.

It's not the most reliable way, because if you are sitting on so much meter normally people will likely try to bait it as if they were baiting an ashura.

Also when i fought you, i couldn't give a thing what i was doing :p

Assassin Cross

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It's not the most reliable way, because if you are sitting on so much meter normally people will likely try to bait it as if they were baiting an ashura.

Also when i fought you, i couldn't give a thing what i was doing :p

You can't block astral tho. :<

bakahyl

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You can't block astral tho. :<

I said bait, you are normally not going to jump in head on into an ashura that is unpunishable on block except on IB. Plus i have been able to clash Mu's dp with Bang's astral because both moves are guard point moves. (Mu's dp clashes alot with many various moves)

That's why in greek angel's matches i did fake fake out jump in and airdash back to avoid any reversal distortions (the umbrella distortion, ashura and that other one with the dash which name i forgot )

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bakahyl

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...you could just punish his astral on reaction with a gold burst.

why would i do that when Mu has a dp (which can even be used in the air) that can clash against his astral on reaction?

It even wins or clashes against 2 of Bang's other reversal distortions (minus the umbrella) on reaction

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Why not just crouch?

I am sure Mu can be hit while crouching against as low as possible tk astral from bang. I think i have seen it happen once or twice.

Edit it did happen once this week when i was trolling around against Greekangel. I got hit by it while i was crouching because i didn't expect it to hit me :3

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GreekAscendedDust

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I am sure Mu can be hit while crouching against as low as possible tk astral from bang. I think i have seen it happen once or twice.

Edit it did happen once this week when i was trolling around against Greekangel. I got hit by it while i was crouching because i didn't expect it to hit me :3

Yeah, but the TK height I usually get is the super jump TK. Regular TK can probably hit some people when they are crouching, except tao and her crawling around like a kitty. The chargeing distortion is Named DAIFUNKA.

UNRELATED NOTE, sleeping in is the shit

Dreiko

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Some chars can crouch it, some can't, it depends on their hitbox. Mu is one of the smaller ones that can, others include Tsubaki, Rachel, Carl and I think Noel. I may be forgetting some.

Irrelevant but, Cor, you somehow stole my wallpaper and made it into your avatar. I demand reparations! (or..uhh...Izayoi mirrors in 3 years when CP is out in consoles..:D)

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Some chars can crouch it, some can't, it depends on their hitbox. Mu is one of the smaller ones that can, others include Tsubaki, Rachel, Carl and I think Noel. I may be forgetting some.

Irrelevant but, Cor, you somehow stole my wallpaper and made it into your avatar. I demand reparations! (or..uhh...Izayoi mirrors in 3 years when CP is out in consoles..:D)

Unless one of us moves to EU.

#ispersonaoutyet

I actually thought Bang's astral whiffed on all but 3 characters crouching, my mistake.

GreekAscendedDust

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Ok guys, I'm severely behind in finding Bang tech because P4A (YosukeforStier.jpg) and there wasn't alot of Bangs to go around, but since there is a qualifier, I will try my best to look for what these bangs can do. FIRST VIDEO: JB abare pickup which leads into tager in the corner where J22A is cruely used for double overheads http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L501ANM1C_o&feature=player_detailpage#t=274s

SECOND VIDEO: 2B antiair pickups, I guess? Maybe? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L501ANM1C_o&feature=player_detailpage#t=391s

THIRD VIDEO: Shout outs to the Bang advanced combos video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_E0fdTfc7Us&feature=player_detailpage#t=566s

FOURTH VIDEO: 5C FRKZ cancel 4 seal combo. Has this been posted already? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_E0fdTfc7Us&feature=player_detailpage#t=665s

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