[CP1.1] Makoto Nanaya's Gameplay Discussion - When's 2.0?

[StarGazer]

Saw 6B linking into 214AC without CH in the Hazama video... this is GREAT!

I personally welcome Lander Blow but i don't think its thaaaat great, we already have the godly 214AC > wait > 2A/backdash/Parry OS and it serves me great so far. If anything then its easier to do this with Lander Blow now.

[MoneyD90]

Lander blow is really nice since it forces people to respect our mix up more.

On another note 214b is looking really nice for dealing with zoning characters too.

[mAc Chaos]

vs Hakumen (Hakumen can't escape orb oki for free anymore)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz5liFqaO1A&t=8m26s

Well, he can still counter and force you to block. If you don't you still get hit.

[StarGazer]

Not if i parried your parry

[mAc Chaos]

orb > counter > parry > counter again

[StarGazer]

My Parry invu frames will probably carry on to avoid your second counter.

[mAc Chaos]

I thought it just had guard point. Or autoguard.

Edited December 7, 2012 by mAc Chaos

[StarGazer]

It turns into Invu that carries on until like the end of the animation or when you start charging Space counter. But hey, you gain two free Mags no? D:

[mAc Chaos]

You only get the stars for successfully bodying someone with them, not just activating them. We would just end up back where we started.

[StarGazer]

I can place the orb just a little bit far from Hakumen to the range where he can't invoke his counters using the orb neither being able to roll or poke his way out. Usually 6D would beat this since it pushes Hakumen forward but its not 1 Frame reversal anymore.

[HiagoX]

Done.

[Antitidus]

You can combo from a 5D(3) midscreen!

http://youtu.be/Ie265Ns_yto?t=2m35s

[excelence]

FC starter ... Nice to know since i occasionally got fc5D on match start.

[Chaoschao222]

Goddamn, that is some major untech time.

[Fujiwara]

holy shit that'd be painful if 5D FC > OD > X-factor lvl3 combo

[SolAscension]

I bet there's a more optimal combo than the one he went for, a raw 5D can lead to some good damage (or at least it used to.)

[StarGazer]

We could do that in Extend and get 4K of it. However, looks like it slides less in CP which means it will be much easier to otg after it but it will carry less.

Edited December 10, 2012 by StarGazer

[SolAscension]

Well since the untechable time was increased it's nice because it gives that much more time for you mind to confirm and follow up, plus it seems to be able to pick up a little farther than it did in Extend.

[Antitidus]

Was it ever mentioned that Makato's J2.C was buffed in any way? I sure hope so.

[StarGazer]

It was mentioned in early loketest that j.2C is (sadly) the same. I hope they will make it dangerous by buffing its Proration at least.

Edited December 11, 2012 by StarGazer

[Errol]

Do you guys not have prorations yet?

[StarGazer]

We do but i don't know how credible it is.

[Errol]

I think it's trustworthy. Here.

Character Combo Rate 70

Name/Dmg/P1/P2/P1*P2

5A/300/100/77/77.0

5B/550/100/89/89.0

5C/450/100/89/89.0

5CC/620/??/92/??

2A/300/100/75/75.0

2B/480/90/85/76.5

2C/780/90/92/82.8

6A/560/90/89/80.1

6B/580/80/89/71.2

6C/640/100/89/89.0

3C/700/90/89/80.1

JA/300/90/75/67.5

JB/480/90/85/76.5

JC/440/90/89/80.1

JCC/460/90/89/80.1

J2C/560/90/77/69.3

F. Throw/1300/100/60/60.0

B. Throw/1300/100/60/60.0

A. Throw/1400/100/60/60.0

5D2/750/75/85/63.7

5D3/1000/80/89/80.1

2D2/800/??/85/??

2D3/1000/80/89/80.1

JD3/1000/80/89/80.1

Corona/820/80/92/73.6

Meteor3/1100/??/100/??

A. Corona/620/??/92/??

A. Meteor3/1100/??/100/??

Comet/100*4/100/75/75.0/once

Break Shot 3/850/85/100/85.0

Break Shot(Fist)3/730/??/94/??

Luna/550/100/92/92.0

Mars/600/80/89/71.2

Gazer/730/85/89/75.6

Rush/250*4+920/100/92/92.0/once

Star 2/590/??/92/??

Star 3/1080/80/94/75.2

Arrow 3/1200/80/94/75.2

Big Bang1-3/1400/75/100/75.0

Big Bang2-3/2200/??/??/??

CT/1000/70/100

Ray3/1000/90/94/84.6

Lander2/450/80/92/73.6

Lander3/500/80/94/75.2

【OD】

5DG/1100/80/89/80.1

2DG/1000/80/89/80.1

JDG/1000/80/89/80.1

MeteorG/1100/??/94/??

A.MeteorG/1400/??/94/??

StarG/1080/??/94/??

RayG/1000/??/94/??

LanderG/500/??/94/??

ArrowG/1200/??/94/??

BigBang1-G/1400/75/100/75

BigBang2-G/3000/??/??/??

[Yazumatto]

And now we have the palettes for 1-6. (Thanks to Kurushii)

Everything looks good. Than again, it's probably because she shows so much skin.

Edited December 11, 2012 by Yazumatto

[HiagoX]

None of these proration values make any sense to me; either the combo system changes are the reason for that or these proration values are bullshit. 2B with same P1 as 2C, what