Jump to content
Dustloop Forums

Recommended Posts

Posted
Grapplers always have a hard time and they can't all be like astaroth from SC (who to me is an amazing grappler power house character).

Astaroth really is the best-designed grappler imo. His damage output is very high, making the risk/reward game worth it, but it's not so high that he's broken. Like other grapplers, he can easily lose to rushdown, but his long range pokes makes up for that flaw. I could write a huge wall of text on why Astaroth (and the Soul Calibur series itself) is amazing...

You guys better watch Final Round. I'm expecting to get at least top 8 in SC5.

As for Tager, what is the Collider nerf everyone is mentioning? I haven't been keeping up with it too much.

  • Replies 1k
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Posted
Astaroth really is the best-designed grappler imo. His damage output is very high, making the risk/reward game worth it, but it's not so high that he's broken. Like other grapplers, he can easily lose to rushdown, but his long range pokes makes up for that flaw. I could write a huge wall of text on why Astaroth (and the Soul Calibur series itself) is amazing...

You guys better watch Final Round. I'm expecting to get at least top 8 in SC5.

As for Tager, what is the Collider nerf everyone is mentioning? I haven't been keeping up with it too much.

It lost hard knockdown. Instead it bounces them real high into the air but they can tech before reaching the ground. So now you are more limited to what you can do after using AC.

Posted (edited)
It lost hard knockdown. Instead it bounces them real high into the air but they can tech before reaching the ground. So now you are more limited to what you can do after using AC.

Oh, I've noticed that. That's what we're complaining about? We still have combos from what I've seen. I thought it was a legitimate complaint like hitbox reduction or less magnetism pull.

The j.D change still weirds me out. I'm gonna miss being able to combo a counterhit j.D midscreen, or setting up some weird tech traps off of normal hit.

I also hate that corner 360's don't lead to 2B 2C stuff any more.

Edited by Astaroth136
Posted
Oh, I've noticed that. That's what we're complaining about? We still have combos from what I've seen. I thought it was a legitimate complaint like hitbox reduction or less magnetism pull.

The j.D change still weirds me out. I'm gonna miss being able to combo a counterhit j.D midscreen, or setting up some weird tech traps off of normal hit.

I also hate that corner 360's don't lead to 2B 2C stuff any more.

360 follow ups are only slightly worse than in Extend. I will also miss mid screen J.D combos and j.D proration.

I'm still super scared that the AC follow up is character specific.

Posted

I believe the only guaranteed followup for AC is 2D. Agreed on j.D proration. I think that is one thing they could have kept for us. Here's (again) to hoping they don't secretly nerf us again. I still can't get over that. We weren't even broken yet they snipe us.

Posted
I will also miss mid screen J.D combos.

I have seen CP Tager do air hit J.D> land 5C combo midscreen before. I don't remember if it was CH or not, but it looked like he also could have did spark or AC instead of 5C as well.

Posted

Thanks for posting this, I've been jonesing for some CP Tager footage recently. My practice of typing "Chrono Phantasma Tager" into Youtube and sorting by "today" or "this week" hasn't been providing any results.

Posted

Yeah you aren't gonna find new matches that way. I have been looking for Akira still. Sometimes I wish I could just go to Japan just to roam the arcades like a creeper in a whole foods store.

Posted
Yeah you aren't gonna find new matches that way. I have been looking for Akira still. Sometimes I wish I could just go to Japan just to roam the arcades like a creeper in a whole foods store.

It used to work, channels like jourdal or pktazn would upload tournaments in parts and label each video with the characters featured within. The videos seem to have dried up.

Posted
StaSiS it's been awhile whats up?

It's been waaaay too long. Lol

I added you on live, but you ain't been on in like a week.... So yea get on that. Lol

Sup Koopa!

I lazy and don't feel like reading through the previous pages... General thoughts on CP Tager? Anyone? Everyone?

Posted

CP Tager is best Tager period.

Pretty much the consensus.

Also I don't have live but I can hop on later and accept it.

Posted (edited)
Double posted here so that you self-hating Tager mains can cheer up for once:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5WhwS5JjWkY#!

Good tager player that has insane matches. The last round of the last match almost gave me a heart attack. I was cheering so hard for that Tager.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5WhwS5JjWkY#!&t=9m0s

Interesting combo on that vid. Can't imagine it's optimal doing AC at the very end though. Maybe he did it to manipulate his combo to make sure the enemy stayed in the corner?

In that fight against Izayoi he uses OD as a buffer for 720, pretty nifty way to punish DDs

Edited by Ctrlaltwtf
Posted
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5WhwS5JjWkY#!&t=9m0s

Interesting combo on that vid. Can't imagine it's optimal doing AC at the very end though. Maybe he did it to manipulate his combo to make sure the enemy stayed in the corner?

In that fight against Izayoi he uses OD as a buffer for 720, pretty nifty way to punish DDs

Yeah, I guess it lets you waste a few more frames so you can get past whatever startup invuln their super has. I guess if he had just done 720 he would have gotten hit?

Posted
CP Tager is best Tager period.

Pretty much the consensus.

Also I don't have live but I can hop on later and accept it.

Totally agree.

Ok cool. Can't wait to get a release date!

Posted
CP Tager is best Tager period.

Pretty much the consensus.

Also I don't have live but I can hop on later and accept it.

Yep, just by watching, you can tell this is his best iteration. Can't wait to actually use him.

Posted

Good shit, huge juxtaposition to the tears everyone felt month 1.

Also Hage is a real nigga. You don't get many of those in Japan.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

  • Upcoming Events

    No upcoming events found
×
×
  • Create New...