[Xrd] News & (Theoretical) Gameplay Discussion

[Mumm-Ra]

I am not feeling Bedman's design either, hopefully it's the bed the one that acts and not the kid, otherwise, eh...

Edited November 28, 2013 by Mumm-Ra

[Jocelot]

Sorry, force of habit. Been calling him Eddie for years, will be a small while before I switch back over to Zato-1.

...actually, screw it. I'm just gonna keep calling him Eddie, lol.

[Agni]

Bedman feels more like a BB character to me, and that makes me very sad :/

What.

Bedman is not a BB-like character at all. I can imagine him fitting into GG where everybody is crazy as hell but he wouldn't fit as a BB character.

Seriously want to see his gameplay. I wonder if he'll be like a previous character or strike his own niche (though that might be hard given how many characters GG already has had).

[Mumm-Ra]

Maybe Bedman's got sleeping mechanics.

Seiously though, it's nigh impossible to predict what his gameplay will be like,dude looks weird as hell, for all we know they could throw something dreams related as his mechanics and dreams aren't really the easiest thing to specify.

Or maybe he's just a boss character and will have dumb stuff like Leopaldon's meteors of doom.

[LionHeartx]

At this point it doesn't matter how amazing his playstyle is I wont be able to take him seriously because of all these puns lol.

[Layer]

OH! Sleep mechanics? It'd be sick if he was based around the REM cycle. The deeper sleep he is the more powerful he gets.

[BladeOfJustice7]

At this point it doesn't matter how amazing his playstyle is I wont be able to take him seriously because of all these puns lol.

Don't worry, by the time the game comes out on consoles, these puns would've been put to rest.

[ElvenShadow]

It looks like the writing on bedman's bed limb says "Dreamlike Reality" to me.

Also, he looks to be playable and I doubt he's the boss character. Looking forward to trying him out a lot next weekend.

[Chipp12]

Oh I know! Bedman is Future Anji! He has the same glasses and other things are the result of working with That Man!

BTW here's the text from that article for those who want to translate the info about him:

その力、未知数……

巨大なベッドに、人間がくくりつけられているかのような容姿が特徴的なべッドマン。中央にいる少年がべッドを操っているのか？それとも、べッド自体が意思を持って動いているのだろうか？いったいどんな技を駆使して戦うキャラクターなのかは、ロケテストでプレイして、自分の目で確かめてほしい！

(though this doesn't say anything useful about him... I'll try to get the comments for his and Zato=ONE screenshots later if nobody else will try to do it faster than me)

Edited November 28, 2013 by Chipp12

[HoudiniJr100]

Oh I know! Bedman is Future Anji! He has the same glasses and other things are the result of working with That Man!

...then why is he not anji if he's future anji...unless the bed is supposed to keep him young. XD

[Mumm-Ra]

It looks like the writing on bedman's bed limb says "Dreamlike Reality" to me.

Told you, dream mechanics.

[4r5]

Also, could someone explain to me what's the difference between #R and AC/ACR Eddie? I never really played #R seriously, so I'm fairly curious about why everyone is so afraid of Eddie if he's based on his #R version, when he was already amazing in AC.

Eddie had less screen control pre-AC than post-AC. And little eddie didn't have invul frames on all his moves. And less flight control/options.

I rather fight #R Eddie. Atleast, between his close and far drills was a reasonably good place to fight him from without worry of FB Drill or little eddie anti-air attack with HS VolcanicViper's attack arc. People are just worried about his #R hitboxes and framedata and shit, which I'm pretty they learned their lesson. His toolset was sound, as evident by gg/, he just needed number/box adjustments.

I think already, little eddie has no overhead option in his moveset. That limits the kinds of unblockable setups he can do by a lot.

edit: Man, I really hope the drills don't have that insane proximity guard bullshit, this time around.

Edited November 28, 2013 by 4r5

[Mumm-Ra]

I wonder if the hand that appears during invite hell has a hitbox. Also, will little eddie crank guard bar this time or will it work like +R's Weiss summons?

[AKA]

There's a lot of potential for Zato to be nonsense in this game as well, but if the shadow doesn't crank guard bar, I don't think we have too much to worry about.

I'm waiting to see if the second hit of shadow gallery knocks down. If it does...old drill special setups will be back.

[4r5]

I imagine the eddie hand attack is Deadman's Hand, the throw.

Shadow Gallery didn't knock down in #R, right? It's been a while.

[Suzaku]

Oh I know! Bedman is Future Anji! He has the same glasses and other things are the result of working with That Man!

BTW here's the text from that article for those who want to translate the info about him:

その力、未知数……

巨大なベッドに、人間がくくりつけられているかのような容姿が特徴的なべッドマン。中央にいる少年がべッドを操っているのか？それとも、べッド自体が意思を持って動いているのだろうか？いったいどんな技を駆使して戦うキャラクターなのかは、ロケテストでプレイして、自分の目で確かめてほしい！

(though this doesn't say anything useful about him... I'll try to get the comments for his and Zato=ONE screenshots later if nobody else will try to do it faster than me)

It's unfortunately just some editorial speculation based on the character design. To paraphrase: "Some kinda guy strapped into a giant bed? Is the boy controlling the bed, or is the bed moving on its own? What kind of crazy abilities will he have!? Find out at the Loke Test!!"

[Lynx]

I'm getting a Carl Clover inspired theme vibe from Bedman's design, round glasses, purple, robot partner...

The same kind of vibe when I saw A.B.A. design for the first time and kept thinking about Sora from Kingdom Hearts.

Whatever that kid is dreaming on that bed is straight up nastiness....

[SmoothTerumi]

Bedman's character page http://ggxrd.com/character/bedman/

[Circuitous]

Seems pretty straightforward.

Task A -> Deja vu.

Task A Prime -> Deja vu.

Task B -> Deja vu.

Task C -> Deja vu.

Deja vu could be a repeat of the Task or just a special followup. Doesn't seem like a generic followup, since each has the original move's name in parentheses after it to imply that they're unique.

Special Movement: Press up during a jump to hover, can move while hovering. Sounds a bit like Eddie/Zato's thing, but they don't go into as much detail on Zato's so I dunno. Awaiting better translation.

特殊移動: ジャンプ中に＾で停滞

停滞後レバーを入れた方向に移動

Overdrives are Sinusoidal Helios and Hemi Jack(?).

I'll spare you all a machine translation of his backstory, but it seems simple enough. Unknown origins, terrible experiments, luring enemies into his dream world.

[LeonD]

Nightmare In Dreamland....

[SoWL]

Gotta love how he weighs exactly 666 kilos with the bed. And that his movelist is so simple, you can play him in your sleep.

[FlyMike]

Bet in a few months you all will be discussing how to maximize his "naptime loop". Calling it now...

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[Kitsoru]

Google translation of this tweet seemed to imply that IK's are being added for this loketest, is this accurate or is google lying to me?

https://twitter.com/Yamanaka_ARC/status/406015642710470656

It autotranslated as '"The lifting of the ban at last "blow finishing move"', which is all I can assume that would mean...

[SoWL]

Google translation of this tweet seemed to imply that IK's are being added for this loketest, is this accurate or is google lying to me?

https://twitter.com/Yamanaka_ARC/status/406015642710470656

It autotranslated as '"The lifting of the ban at last "blow finishing move"', which is all I can assume that would mean...

That's what it says, yeah. By the way, the page it links to also says that all characters are getting their Xrd voices, too. I suppose the only thing that will stay recycled from the old games is the BGM.

[Circuitous]

Unless...?!