[Xrd] News & (Theoretical) Gameplay Discussion

[Circuitous]

Any Potemkin stuff? I saw mention of 6K hit effects (CH stagger, midscreen down, corner wallbounce) which sound pretty interesting - any ideas re: combos, gatlings? Anything on the BBS?

[LeonD]

I WANT TO SEE MILLIA'S IK SO SO BAD!!!...

[BladeOfJustice7]

Did he ever?

I want to play this game so bad.

Ky's 6p typically loses to those moves actually, unless I don't know how to AA and I need to AA harder.

@king of hearts, wow so I guessing he doesn't have that issue this time.

[HeatEXTEND]

Any Potemkin stuff? I saw mention of 6K hit effects (CH stagger, midscreen down, corner wallbounce) which sound pretty interesting - any ideas re: combos, gatlings? Anything on the BBS?

I'm wondering too, from what I've been able to gather (not that much ;_; ) it seems that PB does stupid damage (for now) but overall he seems kinda underwhelming ? I'm starting to get the #R jitters :[

[Sophisticat]

Not sure if this has been mentioned, but how are Slayer's links? Still in the game, or easier to execute?

[HoudiniJr100]

LOL It's Ino's move, not Slayer's....

Ah, nevermind. lol

[Circuitous]

I'm wondering too, from what I've been able to gather (not that much ;_; ) it seems that PB does stupid damage (for now) but overall he seems kinda underwhelming ? I'm starting to get the #R jitters :[

Yeah, I know what you mean... I don't wanna go back. Might end up picking up someone new for Xrd if this trend keeps up. Even just getting 2S vacuum back would be so good.

[xlolxlolx]

some stuff FAB tweeted:

-during hell fire state 2HS>heavenly does around 60% on millia, don't remember the reload damage values but going by +R values it does confirm that hell fire add about 10% flat damage to overdrives

-5P whiffs on crouchers

-6P cannot be cancelled(most likely referring to special cancel)

other than he said he couldn't find any other changes

and Helter Skelter is indeed Dandy Step HS followup.....not sure how you ppl get this mixed up when its been on the movelist for weeks

Edited December 11, 2013 by xlolxlolx

[shtkn]

Ky's 6p typically loses to those moves actually, unless I don't know how to AA and I need to AA harder.

i know you need to change your timing to beat slayer j.H, it's probably the same issue here too. the frame data 6P is:

Startup 9F, Active 5F

Upper body invincible 1~6F

Above knees invincible 7~13F

you probably just need to time the 6P so that you are above knees invincible when they are about to hit you. try doing 6P earlier.

[SuperJ]

this sounds like AC. fwiw slayer's j.H got nerfed pretty hard in +R. you can hit his legs during the active frames.

should be able to 6p it no problem. depending on timing you may trade because slayer still has godlike hurtbox during startup frames

edit: i forgot i made this earlier. should be pretty accurate

Edited December 11, 2013 by SuperJ

[BladeOfJustice7]

i know you need to change your timing to beat slayer j.H, it's probably the same issue here too. the frame data 6P is:

Startup 9F, Active 5F

Upper body invincible 1~6F

Above knees invincible 7~13F

you probably just need to time the 6P so that you are above knees invincible when they are about to hit you. try doing 6P earlier.

So less reaction and more anticipation then eh? I'll test that in training mode later, thanks for the info shtkn

[Destin]

So less reaction and more anticipation then eh? I'll test that in training mode later, thanks for the info shtkn

Ky also has a plethora of decent air to air moves, as well as a dp!

Edited December 11, 2013 by Destin

[xlolxlolx]

ky can 6p him throughout the entire thing in +R, only time where it fails is if he does it deep in the jump, in AC it was near impossible to 6p him because they truly were the magic hands

[BladeOfJustice7]

ky can 6p him throughout the entire thing in +R, only time where it fails is if he does it deep in the jump, in AC it was near impossible to 6p him because they truly were the magic hands

I haven't played Slayer in +R yet, I was more referring to Sol when I was talking about AA'ing attacks, since Sol's delayed js and AD>jhs always give me a hard time AA'ing.

[xlolxlolx]

those have never changed, you just delay the 6p

[HeatEXTEND]

some stuff FAB tweeted:

-during hell fire state 2HS>heavenly does around 60% on millia, don't remember the reload damage values but going by +R values it does confirm that hell fire add about 10% flat damage to overdrives

-5P whiffs on crouchers

-6P cannot be cancelled(most likely referring to special cancel)

This isn't helping ;_;

[Hecatom]

This isn't helping ;_;

Word

Btw any new info on Chipp? Does he suck so bad as #R Chipp or did he get something?

Seeing no Testament around and Chipp probably being useless again is making me feel uneasy about me playing this game for long :/

[Delrian]

If there are enough people that don't wanna play Xrd I'd be happy to play +R with em...

[Henaki]

5p duckable? The hell?

[4r5]

Is there really that much of a difference between whiff 5P PotBuster and tick 5P PotBuster?

[Dreiko]

Is there really that much of a difference between whiff 5P PotBuster and tick 5P PotBuster?

Whiff 5P one would be the better one by far. You expect the 5P to not whiff so you try to block but the 5P whiffs and you get grabbed while trying to block the incoming 5P. You need to know when it's gonna whiff and when its not, which is considerably harder of a situation than "I blocked 5P, do I jump cause he's gonna pot buster or do I block more?".

[Delrian]

On the other hand, it makes it less effective at catching people mashing out than if your 5P would've hit them while they were crouching...

[4r5]

I was joking. Duckable 5P is kinda a big deal.

[Delrian]

Er... my bad, didn't catch that.

[Destin]

Word

Btw any new info on Chipp? Does he suck so bad as #R Chipp or did he get something?

Seeing no Testament around and Chipp probably being useless again is making me feel uneasy about me playing this game for long :/

Didn't he get a whole slew of new wall moves?