Chipp12 Posted August 23, 2014 Posted August 23, 2014 On Creating Guilty Gear Xrd SIGN's Characters - Siliconera
TheRealBobMan Posted August 23, 2014 Posted August 23, 2014 I somehow didn't expect her backdash YRC to leave her airborne long enough for her 4-frame j.K to start. That's great news for anyone that complained about haircar FRC being removed. Even if you react to the YRC screen freeze and guess right that she's going to go into j.K, causing you to block high > low with perfect timing, there's always the possibility of just landing into low (12 frames faster than expected because of j.K hit-pause), or landing into throw, or even landing j.K into another j.K, using the now 2-hit Disc to get the combo. Having this off of backdash is extra mean since Haircar was only frame-1 airborne, whereas backdash has actual invul. Can you imagine Sol with oki backdash YRC > j.P/2K/WT mixup (assuming j.P works)? I hope there's at least 1 frame of vulnerability on YRC so that you can't just YRC an invul move and OS block a meaty on reaction during screen freeze or do whatever mixup you were planning on using otherwise. If you can run a mixup and/or bait>punish reversal VV by using a backdash YRC there's something wrong. How long does the YRC screen freeze last again? Around 20 frames?
D.R.F. Posted August 23, 2014 Posted August 23, 2014 I dont think you can do it with sol. J.p doesnt have that type of range. Also doesn't really seem worth it, millia j.k is probably still a decent starter
TheRealBobMan Posted August 23, 2014 Posted August 23, 2014 Maybe it's different in Xrd, but Sol's j.P actually has a decent hitbox considering it's active for 7 years frames and recovers like a jab. It's more a matter of if he can use it before he lands, since you could always backdash at point blank range after running on top of their corpse (you have VV, so they wont always push a button, and backdash would bait a throw anyway). Maybe his j.K would work, though that's a frame slower (though his lower body is stretched oddly so it might keep him from landing for that extra frame). Neither prorates, so he'll still get damage off of it. You really don't think 25% to mixup off of invul-backdash with either a 5-frame overhead, 6-frame low, or 4-frame command throw is worth it? Would you rather spend 50% to mixup with 5D off of VV? There will still be a time and a place for that, but the potential off of backdash YRC seems pretty high.
Stellarcircle5 Posted August 23, 2014 Posted August 23, 2014 ^ shit is so dirty ahah. Its funny though that it took woshige to get the game for us to learn about stuff like that People consider him the best Millia in the world for a very good reason. I for one welcome back our lord and saviour, here to spread the gospel of vortex.
Liminal18 Posted August 23, 2014 Posted August 23, 2014 On Creating Guilty Gear Xrd SIGN's Characters - SiliconeraLol well I just bought BlazBlue Calamity Trigger on steam despite already owning the windows live version and also not having a PC right now. My 9.99 is for Xrd on PC also, the post X characters can now be included because of a new deal with Sega? P.s. I probably just upticked BB:CT sales on steam because of P.R. Double speak.
Gegz Posted August 23, 2014 Posted August 23, 2014 http://www.twitch.tv/joniosan is streaming some XRD right now.
D.R.F. Posted August 23, 2014 Posted August 23, 2014 Cool. But yea you would have to time gunflame right. So that you could follow it up. I personally only see millia and maybe i-no doing it. But hell thats because I havent seen anyone else
redsilversnake Posted August 23, 2014 Posted August 23, 2014 I hope there's at least 1 frame of vulnerability on YRC so that you can't just YRC an invul move and OS block a meaty on reaction during screen freeze or do whatever mixup you were planning on using otherwise. If you can run a mixup and/or bait>punish reversal VV by using a backdash YRC there's something wrong. How long does the YRC screen freeze last again? Around 20 frames? It's been confirmed for a while that you can get hit out of an RC. I for one welcome back our lord and saviour, here to spread the gospel of vortex. Sigged.
BladeOfJustice7 Posted August 23, 2014 Posted August 23, 2014 Cool. But yea you would have to time gunflame right. So that you could follow it up. I personally only see millia and maybe i-no doing it. But hell thats because I havent seen anyone else I honestly can't see how Ky can pull that off. It's still very interesting to see, still new techniques are being figured out in this game is a good sign.
D.R.F. Posted August 23, 2014 Posted August 23, 2014 So many situations to consider. Cse pushes back a lot, and you have to do backdash. Because of space you might not get a combo worth 25 tension. If this were to work with j.k would probably work best, I think j.s and j.h have too much startup. then again, he might be able to nonetheless
Blade Posted August 24, 2014 Posted August 24, 2014 Cancels. Cancels everywhere... Interesting to know how they couldn't add GGXX characters onwards in to GG2 due to the Licence... But that doesn't explain why they tried to hide Dizzy so much...
D.R.F. Posted August 24, 2014 Posted August 24, 2014 Cancels. Cancels everywhere... Interesting to know how they couldn't add GGXX characters onwards in to GG2 due to the Licence... But that doesn't explain why they tried to hide Dizzy so much... X characters dude. And that was probably left ambiguous to leave dummies like us to speculate who is was
Master Of Chaos Posted August 24, 2014 Posted August 24, 2014 There's no fun in speculation if you just give the answer away for everything. And again, X characters.
Dogphone Posted August 24, 2014 Posted August 24, 2014 On Creating Guilty Gear Xrd SIGN's Characters - Siliconera Would suck dick for an Xrd PC release. Even if I have to wait a couple extra months post console release, I will take it.
king of heart Posted August 24, 2014 Posted August 24, 2014 Would suck dick for an Xrd PC release. Even if I have to wait a couple extra months post console release, I will take it. PC will open a big door for mods and piracy. So no for me. Also anyone knows the who qualified this week ?
Final Ultima Posted August 24, 2014 Posted August 24, 2014 Also anyone knows the who qualified this week ? The last chance qualifier happened about a day and a half ago, Haken (SO) took it. With Gazou (FA) taking the newcomer qualifying spot (open only to those born since January 1st, 1989) a few days ago, that's everyone. So for those that don't already know, here are the final brackets for ARC REVOLUTION CUP 2014 for GGXrd. Endou (CH) vs. Di (RA) Nage (FA) vs. Mortal (VE) 012 (SO) vs. Rozu (KY) Fino (VE) vs. FAB (PO) Raigou (CH) vs. Uki (SO) Hase (SL) vs. LOX (BE) Haken (SO) vs. Tejinashi (FA) Saryu (RA) vs. Woshige (MI) Karinchu (RA) vs. Kanata (MI) Toruso (MI) vs. Uuzen (IN) Gazou (FA) vs. Summit (CH) Ain (KY) vs. Defure (FA) Consomme (PO) vs. Daiji (RA) Nakamura (MI) vs. Tsubu (BE) Taka (SL) vs. Hasegawa (IN) OsakaB (FA) vs. Isamu (VE) No May, Zato or Axl players qualified.
Dogphone Posted August 24, 2014 Posted August 24, 2014 PC will open a big door for mods and piracy. So no for me. Which is why I'm cool if they release it a few months afterwards since console sales are generally front-loaded. Not sure what's stopping Arc beyond simply not giving a shit if SNK, Lab Zero and Capcom can do it with seemingly little to no hoopla on the subject.
rayplay Posted August 24, 2014 Posted August 24, 2014 PC will open a big door for mods and piracy. So no for me. Also anyone knows the who qualified this week ? What's wrong with mods? Mods are awesome. And outside the mods, you can get things like betas to try out new balance changes or new characters in development. Just look at Skullgirls.
TekkamanArk Posted August 24, 2014 Posted August 24, 2014 Mods are NOT awesome, it's fake. I've heard people talk about how a game is good with mods, but, the game is itself, and the mods are some user-created crap. I don't care how good a mod is, it doesn't make the game better whatsoever because the base game is the real game, and mods aren't even worth mentioning. The REAL measure of the REAL game is how good it is out-of-the-box, not after you slap in some stupid add-ons made by a random user.
destruction_adv Posted August 24, 2014 Posted August 24, 2014 Mods are NOT awesome, it's fake. I've heard people talk about how a game is good with mods, but, the game is itself, and the mods are some user-created crap. I don't care how good a mod is, it doesn't make the game better whatsoever because the base game is the real game, and mods aren't even worth mentioning. The REAL measure of the REAL game is how good it is out-of-the-box, not after you slap in some stupid add-ons made by a random user. How does that make the mods themselves bad instead of the people who are praising said modded game though
TekkamanArk Posted August 24, 2014 Posted August 24, 2014 Because mods shouldn't exist in the first place. The only ones who should be making game content is the people in charge of said game, no one else.
destruction_adv Posted August 24, 2014 Posted August 24, 2014 Because mods shouldn't exist in the first place. The only ones who should be making game content is the people in charge of said game, no one else. Even when the people in charge build in modding tools themselves?
TeeJay Posted August 24, 2014 Posted August 24, 2014 A full online match of DeathBall in UT 2003 or 2004 is too much fun. I wouldn't judge a game by mod capability though. Total conversion mods are awesome, but are pretty much mostly new games. There are some awesome stand alone games that were born out of mods. Isn't that Counter-strike, TF2, KF etc. On guilty gear subjects, I am rooting for FAB and Konsome for Arc Revo. I don't think they'll pull it off with all of the Rams and so many other skilled players and characters, but I hope they make some noise. I wouldn't mind seeing Woshige, Tsubu, Fino or a Bedman/Ino player wreck either. If a slayer, ino, venom or bedman player won, I'd be pretty hyped. lol FAB vs Fino first. I was wondering if scarce characters like Bedman vs. Slayer would be fighting each other first.
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