[Xrd] News & (Theoretical) Gameplay Discussion

[CCVengeance]

Oh wow, that cuteness, that reference, THEM TITTIES!

New main confir-*Gets hit in the head by a Stinger Aim*

I-I mean sub confirmed! Yes, yes that is what I meant to say, hehe. *Looks over to a glaring Venom*

Yeah I'll sub Sin too! *Venom gives a thumbs up*

[Uncivilized Elk]

What a stupid fucking boob window on Elphet...

[Agni]

What a stupid fucking boob window on Elphet...

 

Nothing will ever be as bad as Makoto's underboob. Or indeed her whole outfit.

 

But this isn't really gameplay related.

[Uncivilized Elk]

Nothing will ever be as bad as Makoto's underboob. Or indeed her whole outfit.

 

But this isn't really gameplay related.

It's related to the news.

Fuck that stupid-ass boob window, not only is it ridiculous in general, but it's especially ridiculous with the rest of her design.

That's quite literally my only problem with her. 

[HeWhoRocksAlot]

Could Elphelt just be one big Guns N' Roses reference entirely, even the names of their songs. Aside that she wields guns and wears roses, wearing a wedding dress could be referencing November Rain music video, using a shotgun specials could reference Shotgun Blues, and if she uses a rocket launcher, then referencing Rocket Queen. Toss us something more like these ArcSys.

[NesmerII]

Elphelt stage:  Dragonica Falls (shares the forest with Millia)

 

Stage Theme: Welcome to the Jungle

 

I really, REALLY hope Daisuke go nuts and makes Elphelt's theme a head bobbin', guitar chuggin' riff-tastic groove, think Paradigm's theme but Fancier.  It would be the perfect foil for her saccharine appearance.  I'll be disappointed if it's "girly/bubbly" like May's theme.

 

And is it true that El will have to reload her weapons?

 

Because that makes her 100X cooler.  DEM ACTION RELOADS SON.

[TeeJay]

^^I wonder if it'll be a needed risk (the reload) like A.B.A's blood packs but with a gun's bullets. I could imagine her playing keep away and being limited to kicks or pistol whippin' until she can get that reload. Well, there are a lot of directions to go. I will be very curious to see how her aiming mechanic works (could be strong but skillful neutral) and how she plays. I wonder if she'll be a tricky character to play but stylish if you get her down. 

 

lol, reload YRC and them gun feints...

[heavymetalmixer]

Could Elphelt just be one big Guns N' Roses reference entirely, even the names of their songs. Aside that she wields guns and wears roses, wearing a wedding dress could be referencing November Rain music video, using a shotgun specials could reference Shotgun Blues, and if she uses a rocket launcher, then referencing Rocket Queen. Toss us something more like these ArcSys.

 

 

Elphelt stage:  Dragonica Falls (shares the forest with Millia)

 

Stage Theme: Welcome to the Jungle

 

I really, REALLY hope Daisuke go nuts and makes Elphelt's theme a head bobbin', guitar chuggin' riff-tastic groove, think Paradigm's theme but Fancier.  It would be the perfect foil for her saccharine appearance.  I'll be disappointed if it's "girly/bubbly" like May's theme.

 

And is it true that El will have to reload her weapons?

 

Because that makes her 100X cooler.  DEM ACTION RELOADS SON.

 

All hail the Guns n' Roses references :D

[Chainsaw Guitar]

What a stupid fucking boob window on Elphet...

It's related to the news.

Fuck that stupid-ass boob window, not only is it ridiculous in general, but it's especially ridiculous with the rest of her design.

That's quite literally my only problem with her. 

 

[XXXDC]

Everyone is entitled to his own opinion and tastes, no need to bash each other.

 

 

 

 It would be the perfect foil for her saccharine appearance.  I'll be disappointed if it's "girly/bubbly" like May's theme.

 

This so much. I also think she may get her own stage later... maybe.

[swordsman09]

I really, REALLY hope Daisuke go nuts and makes Elphelt's theme a head bobbin', guitar chuggin' riff-tastic groove, think Paradigm's theme but Fancier.  It would be the perfect foil for her saccharine appearance.  I'll be disappointed if it's "girly/bubbly" like May's theme.

It better be with the name "Welcome to the Jungle". Let's hope for another Awe of She I guess.

[Blade]

Cleavage Window aside, I think she'll be something of a klutz type character.  That idiot antenna is there for a reason.

 

Also, Suzaki Aya.

[the_d3v]

Nah, it's not about top tier, it's just certain match-ups being pointless. I'd guess a Murakumo-styled ranged character in GG would neuter Potemkin, for example.

I disagree. IMO games become much more interesting when we see strong examples of character archetypes that result in difficult but interesting match ups.

 

And in any case, Guilty Gear has always been able to have strong archetypes and interesting matchups without necessarily making the game lopsided. This isn't ST after all where Guile can't do anything to O.Sagat.

 

English name confirmed as Elphelt on Yamanaka's twitter.

Still can't figure out what the name is a reference to. Somebody with a deeper knowledge of rock and roll and metal should step in and try to figure this out.

[TheRealBobMan]

Could be this or this... or possibly this?

[D.R.F.]

I dont think its that tbh.

[Uncivilized Elk]

It says you're gay.

 

 

And if I did happen to be gay, is your post suddenly supposed to make me re-think my life and enter a christian conversion program?

Are you perhaps trapped in the last century when bigotry was generally acceptable?

She comes across as having a southern belle vibe but her outfit clothes her entire arms and even hands and goes up all the way to her neck. And then somebody decided "Hey, let's just photoshop Ino's boobs on top of the dress."

It looks friggin atrocious. I'd be fine if they just gave her a dress that shows cleavage because the front of the dress ends below the clavicle or whatever. But this... this just screams like they thought the design was a little boring and wanted to scream and shout to draw in the 14 year old ecchi-anime lovers. 

Ino can have a revealing outfit because she comes off as that kind of character. El... I don't know what the hell El is supposed to be like to wear that outfit; it screams appeal to nerds over appeal to creating an actual character.

So yeah, I got major problems with the boob window as a design choice.

I think I read somewhere her character controls the movement of the crosshairs? Is that correct? That sounds like it would be hard to balance honestly. I feel like she would end up either high tier or low tier but not in-between. Though maybe it's not as hard of a gimmick to tune for a fighting game as I think it is.

[Calamitus]

who?

people play gg for the plot? 

I mean developers choose characters mostly by their story relevance than their playstyles (with the exception of archetypical styles). That's why we can see someone like Zappa, Jam or Bridget in a pachinko game, yet they absent in Xrd for now.

 

Hate to somewhat burst your bubble but according to Lux (who I asked about Bardius, since she owns VastEdge) and apparently when Sol confronts him in battle, after he beats him (she used a Tyrant Rave on him) he melts in to a puddle while laughing.

 

I don't think the Senato members will be doing much active fighting unless they get pushed in a corner.  Even Crow Kuruwaba likes to dodge attacks and blow up stuff to make his getaways.  These guys fight dirty.

 

 

I dont expect Bardius to be playable just because he shares special moves with Zato/Eddie (though he looks more insteresting than the rest of the senate in my opinion). But i see your point.

[TeeJay]

I think I read somewhere her character controls the movement of the crosshairs? Is that correct? That sounds like it would be hard to balance honestly. I feel like she would end up either high tier or low tier but not in-between. Maybe it's not as hard of a gimmick to tune for a fighting game as I think it is.

I am wondering if she'll be controlling the direction she's aiming (like a 2-d lazer scope sidescrolling shooter with mouse control) or literally aiming at a spot on the screen like traditional fps? Time to wait I suppose. The latter would be even harder if the target is small but allows skill to do crazy stuff (makes the opponents movement really matter). The former sounds more practical I guess. 

[Lynxfort]

 1- Mmm..i wonder.. there is no any ASW fighting game has more than one release without clones..
My guss that we would see  another potemkin without helmet,, i thought it would be the king ver of Ky but it's unlikely gonna happen after i saw his damaged appearance .. i really like Robot and HOS but i feel they won't appear again ( especially HOS )..

2- A question for persona players ..i want to ask about shadow versions are they tourney legal ?? if they are  i hope the same happen to ex versions on Xrd be the same  f there gonna be any

[RoBoBOBR]

Framedata is wonderful, but contains some mistakes. Like Chipp's jD is listed as 3F, while 60 fps vids show that it's 6F. So beware!

[White Man]

Welp, I don't like the new character's design.  I like the concept behind her design, but the execution simply does not look aesthetically pleasing to me.  I'm glad her color scheme at least looks better than it did in the story mode screencaps, but otherwise, this is easily my least-favorite GG character design as far as appearance is concerned.

HOWEVER!  I'll give her a chance based on the fact that her play style could potentially turn out really cool.  I've always wanted a GG character who uses firearms, but secretly worried they would either center around stupid projectile spam or wind up like Noel with guns that only serve as decorations.  It sounds like the devs figured out a third route that allows for actual shooting attacks without any Marvel-esque bullshit, so I'm pretty excited to see this in action.

[Akujikan]

I kind of hope she turns out like Ushiromiya Rosa in the sense that her gun is a powerful spacing or combo tool, but she is limited by reloading.

Aside from that, I'm neutral on her aesthetic design. I'll need to see how she looks in action.

[DaiAndOh]

http://blog.livedoor.jp/ruubr/archives/40644447.html

 

Ruu and Kedako got some xrd frame data. when viewing the text files, be sure to set your text viewer's (or web browser's) encoding to japanese

You can also save as,  then open in Word for instance to the JP text.

[D.R.F.]

1- Mmm..i wonder.. there is no any ASW fighting game has more than one release without clones..

My guss that we would see another potemkin without helmet,, i thought it would be the king ver of Ky but it's unlikely gonna happen after i saw his damaged appearance .. i really like Robot and HOS but i feel they won't appear again ( especially HOS )..

2- A question for persona players ..i want to ask about shadow versions are they tourney legal ?? if they are i hope the same happen to ex versions on Xrd be the same f there gonna be any

Shaf ow characters are legal, however there are only three worth the effort anyway

[king of heart]

My favorite gunner style was that girl from Vanguard princess.