Litherain-XIII Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 Another sad change was made to noel in CP that I just noticed today. you can no longer special cancel the first drive attack (drive starters) on whiff like you could in EX. this was rather useful in neutral at times and was gonna be better in CP only that now its no longer possible except on block. just take note of that change and keep it moving..
Dorian Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 Another sad change was made to noel in CP that I just noticed today. you can no longer special cancel the first drive attack (drive starters) on whiff like you could in EX. this was rather useful in neutral at times and was gonna be better in CP only that now its no longer possible except on block. just take note of that change and keep it moving.. Pretty sure you can still cancel drive into an ender via ground cancel, but that's like saying a cake has half it's frosting.
Litherain-XIII Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 you can only cancel it into drive enders on whiff. not chamber shot or optic barrel. that's what I meant
skiller41 Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 Hey there everyone. I'm new to BB and have been playing Rachel so far. I was thinking I'd maybe learn some Noel, but I'm not sure where to start. Now, I looked in the combo thread and saw the list of BnB-ish stuff, but nothing really guiding. Does anyone have a personal list of things they use that are go-to? I'd appreciate any help with that or any other general Noel tips! Also what is the most prominent player I should watch for tech/combos?
LunaKage Posted October 31, 2013 Author Posted October 31, 2013 for starters, for someone brand new, start with 5A/2A > 5B/2B > 5C/2C > 236C
Alpha152 Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 I posted a list in the thread. http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?17612-CP-Noel-Vermillion-Combo-Thread-(Work-In-Progress)/page3&p=1560319&viewfull=1#post1560319 There's a lot of stuff that comes to mind for tips, if you can be more precise I'd be glad to give advice. My favorite player is Shino, his abare is very good and almost always leads into the optimal combos. Kouya is also another good player to watch.
skiller41 Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 for starters, for someone brand new, start with 5A/2A > 5B/2B > 5C/2C > 236C Actually I'm looking to learn optimal/close to optimal stuff >< I've played fighting games extensively, just not BB, so I'm fine with hard/long stuff (especially after playing Rachel for a weekI can't imagine it being too bad with Noel). I posted a list in the thread. http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?17612-CP-Noel-Vermillion-Combo-Thread-(Work-In-Progress)/page3&p=1560319&viewfull=1#post1560319 There's a lot of stuff that comes to mind for tips, if you can be more precise I'd be glad to give advice. My favorite player is Shino, his abare is very good and almost always leads into the optimal combos. Kouya is also another good player to watch. Cool yeah I actually found this earlier and copied it all down :D but thank you for responding and posting those in the first place (I was so happy to find them)! Is this all I will need for her?
Alpha152 Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 I'm still revising that list, making the combos more universal because at the moment those combos are kind of unstable. I'll update it once I finish testing everything, or if Luna or Lith finds a new combo route.
Litherain-XIII Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 (edited) Tested 4D against litchi's 6A overhead and against 2D > D launch staff (low version) along with dp. 4D confirmed to now beat all 3. note worthy to know since in the pass you was stuck blocking without being able to use drives to punish nearly all her mix-ups. 6D doesn't work on the 2D staff launch or her dp. Also on litchi's 6D you can 6D or 4D that as well. pretty funny Edited October 31, 2013 by Litherain-XIII
Fusionist Posted November 1, 2013 Posted November 1, 2013 Anyone have tips for connecting 2C > 5C > j.5C > j.D? They always tech out after j.5C.
Alpha152 Posted November 1, 2013 Posted November 1, 2013 Try doing 2C(1) > 5C > j.C and see if that works. Though this might not work depending on the starter you're using.
SkyKing Posted November 2, 2013 Posted November 2, 2013 Either do 2C(1), or try and j.D on the first hit of j.C.
LiveWireX Posted November 2, 2013 Posted November 2, 2013 I just thought I'd throw in my 2 cents, to say that while I've gotten it to work one or twice with both hits of 2C, I'm not sure it's as practical as just going from 2C(1) > 5C since it's more unnecessarily tight and tricky for not really anymore benefit. And at least for me, with the j.C>j.D bit, if you can go to j.D after the first hit of j.C, it actually becomes surprisingly easy after a couple of tries.
mMarikom Posted November 2, 2013 Posted November 2, 2013 Either do 2C(1), or try and j.D on the first hit of j.C. The second is usually the ticket with a lot of j.C j.D combos with particular starters. Going into j.D off of the first hit of j.C is almost always best.
00Bubbles00 Posted November 2, 2013 Posted November 2, 2013 Anyone have tips for connecting 2C > 5C > j.5C > j.D? They always tech out after j.5C. Try using super jump cancel on the 5C if you are not already. Its more consistent.
Setsuna Posted November 4, 2013 Posted November 4, 2013 Azrael Backdash/DP OS Love you ~! I only played against one Azrael so far but it was a good player I know personally and I got completely dominated so this will help a lot ~!
Dorian Posted November 4, 2013 Posted November 4, 2013 Azrael's dashes were made known to me today, and low and behold ak ind soul made a vid for it! Ty.!
Alpha152 Posted November 4, 2013 Posted November 4, 2013 The most you can get is around 3k~ and the combos are posted in the other thread.
Dorian Posted November 4, 2013 Posted November 4, 2013 The most you can get is around 3k~ and the combos are posted in the other thread. 6D starter makes it so that you cannot 6D after 6B, same attack combo, auto-breaks. d.6D > d.5C > d.5B > 236A > 5B > 5C > sj.C > j.D > d.2D > d.6B > 22C > 6C > 6B > 6D > d.5C > 236D (3.3k/24) Mid Screen d.6D starter works, but 6D does not allow the full combo.
Alpha152 Posted November 4, 2013 Posted November 4, 2013 (edited) Haha woops, I used a different combo but forgot to mention it. You can do 6D > d.5C > d.5B > 236A > 5B > 5C > sj.C > j.D > d.2D > d.6B > 22C > 6C > 5D > d.6A > d.5C > 236D midscreen Edited November 5, 2013 by Alpha152
Dorian Posted November 4, 2013 Posted November 4, 2013 (edited) Haha woops, I used a different combo but forgot to mention it. You can do 6D > d.5C > d.5B > 236A > 5B > 5C > sj.C > j.D > d.2D > d.6B > 22C > 6C > 5D > d.6A > d.6B > 236D midscreen Danke. CP is the first installment where I'm actually enjoy using training mode, so much fun tech in this game I love it. Edited November 4, 2013 by Dorian
00Bubbles00 Posted November 5, 2013 Posted November 5, 2013 I can see now why not many people do 5B>5C>236C>RC>66>5B... The execution is hard...Q_Q
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