Chrono Phantasma Speculations/Theories [rules updated 10/14]

[raziel12]

you guys see the ilustration by Mori

plzs let this be on the next game lol

this might be wat ragna and nu was meant to look like if they had correctly became one it might had something to do with both of their Azure gremiore being incomplete prototypes and the way they fused in the Cauldron that turned them into the black beast

she better be in BB4 lol

Edited November 5, 2013 by Chaoschao222
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[Shinhwa]

Just to reconfirm, Nu didn't fuse with Ragna at the epilogue that turned him into the beast right? Wasn't it Izanami that forced it out of him?

[Zedar90]

Just to reconfirm, Nu didn't fuse with Ragna at the epilogue that turned him into the beast right? Wasn't it Izanami that forced it out of him?

She could have fused with him, it never said if she did or not. Izanami made the Grimoire go berserk as countermeasure towards Mu.

[raziel12]

nahh i dont think they did yet i think Izanami got other plans for nu for the moment

[Shinhwa]

More like I thought they needed the Cauldron to even fuse, or was that just one of the options available?

Why do I feel in the next game, we will see Ragna being chained or something or being brainwashed, where he is like just sitting doing nothing as he got mind-broken by Izanami, while Nu is in the same room as him, where she like hugs him a lot and toys with him like how she did with her Ragna-doll (the one that the younger version had). o.o;

But is the a reason for Nu to even follow Izanami? But considering without Ragna, I guess she is just a robot who is controlled, so I guess she would go with her because of her command.

Would have been better if Nu went rogue after the incident lol

Like Ragna gets taken away with Izanami, so she becomes jealous about it so she tries to take Ragna back away from Izanami lol.

Edited November 3, 2013 by Shinhwa

[raziel12]

nahh i think Ragna went rogue after the incident to keep ppl away from him and stay in hiding for awhile to keep from hurting ppl close to him knowing him he might be in Ikaruga forest or underground somewhere and Izanami seems too busy with the embryo to deal with him now

Edited November 3, 2013 by raziel12

[Shinhwa]

nahh i think Ragna went rogue after the incident to keep ppl away from him and stay in hiding for awhile to keep from hurting ppl close to him knowing him he might be in Ikaruga forest or underground somewhere and Izanami seems too busy with the embryo to deal with him now

If that's the case, I would say it's better if he did go Rogue, then Nu also goes Rogue from Izanami and tries to find Ragna.

[Chaoschao222]

To the deleted post, don't drag this thread offtopic into No-Fun Mode, too.

[raziel12]

well we just gonna have to wait like i said this game have too many loop holes they might fix thoes before getting started on the final game its not that many compared how many BBCS had

[churchblue]

The four game is the final game. Hopefully Mori will do a lot more for an epic finale. Also, what with that illustration?

[Shinhwa]

I have a question. Izanami governs death right? So let's say in the next game, she can't be defeated in battle, where the protagonists have to prove themselves to her, so that she will change her mind in destroying the world (Like how the protagonist proved himself to Izanami in Persona 4).

Let's say Ragna goes through an evolution, where he is able to subdue the Black Beast within himself thanks to some other source (Ex. Mu-12 or Nu-13's Azure), and he is able to defeat Izanami. However Izanami cannot die, so after seeing the efforts of Ragna and the others, she changes her mind and decides to go back to where she came from. But because it was mentioned that Ragna doesn't have much time to live, let's say he dies after this, and Saya returns to her former self, along with let's say all the other protagonists become sad at his death, and Izanami after looking at that, decides to use her powers to make his death not happen, where he lives on.

Do you think this is possible?

[raziel12]

wat interest me is that Izanami took an intrest in ragna all of a sudden even tough she wanted him dead at first she might can see wat he really is or wat really is inside of him to offer him terumi head too talk about back stab even though he is the one that helped her the most to get where they are now saya might have effect her in some way too

[churchblue]

Who do you think is gonna be in the CP extension next year? I'm very sure Celica will be playable. Mai Natsume may be a candiate, but don't how Mori will draw her in the present day (probably look different). I wanna to say Nine, but she's too overkill. I don't know who will else playable in the extension.

Also, I wonder how Mori will fit Mai in the Blazblue storyline. We still don't know what exactly she is (besides a grimoire). Why does she have Azure in her?

[Shinhwa]

Celica isn't a combat kind of person though @__@ Unless you mean Minerva.

[churchblue]

Celica isn't a combat kind of person though @__@ Unless you mean Minerva.

Yes. She will be pretty much the same as Carl and Relius.

[momobunny]

I'm really hoping for Celica, who I see working with Minerva. I'd also like to see Jubei, Nine, and a few others being included in the playable roster (including spin off characters).

[Shinhwa]

wat interest me is that Izanami took an intrest in ragna all of a sudden even tough she wanted him dead at first she might can see wat he really is or wat really is inside of him to offer him terumi head too talk about back stab even though he is the one that helped her the most to get where they are now saya might have effect her in some way too

If Izanami did indeed take interest in Ragna, well the influence of Saya may also be part of it, maybe at the end of the next game, if Ragna indeed dies like how Rachel said to Tsubaki, after seeing Saya and others crying over his death, maybe she will use her powers as the goddess of death to negate Ragna's death or something? Like after they fight against her (but unable to kill her since she is a god who cannot die) and prove themselves or something?

I am still anxious to know what happened to Ragna (who disappeared at the end) and Nu-13, who just stabbed Ragna in the back then just didn't show up after...

The cliffhanger really made me feel anxious and worried about how the story will end... T___T

Who do you think is gonna be in the CP extension next year? I'm very sure Celica will be playable. Mai Natsume may be a candiate, but don't how Mori will draw her in the present day (probably look different). I wanna to say Nine, but she's too overkill. I don't know who will else playable in the extension.

Also, I wonder how Mori will fit Mai in the Blazblue storyline. We still don't know what exactly she is (besides a grimoire). Why does she have Azure in her?

Celica may as well be another version of Carl I guess lol

But knowing her personality, I really don't think it's appropriate or even really make much sense to input her as a fighting character, as she is a healer, she is always put in the sidelines instead of front lines where she fights. Even if she does have Minerva, I don't think she really is the type to fight @_@;

I think Mai Natsume should come out in the next game. Considering she was mentioned in the game, it already created some questions for the players, for those who never read the Remix Heart manga (and is unable to for some reason)

Also due to the fact a lot of the characters who came out in CP didn't really have much good roles, I think it's appropriate that they have more major roles in the next game, or maybe somewhat more roles in Extended if it does come out.

[Chaoschao222]

Keep in mind this is not a wishlisting thread for playable characters. Some pondering on who will end up playable based on the story doesn't belong here either, but I'm letting it slide up until this post I've made here. But seriously. Rules aren't hard to follow. Start following them.

[Shinhwa]

Do you guys think there is a way to kill the "Evil" inside Ragna? I mean that's the thing that's causing him to go Black Beast mostly right? I mean come on, Ragna doesn't deserve to die :/ It's the evil that's in him that's making him suffer. Same goes for Nu. Isn't the Azure Grimoire pretty much corrupting them somewhat?

Although Ragna like subdues it somewhat, I think for Nu, it is pretty one of the reason why she has such a corrupt Yandere personality.

I wonder if there is a way to turn those powers into the Good instead of Evil.

[MrBerzerk]

Alright so Tsubaki wants to kill Ragna for what I assume is only for the sake of her and Jin correct? On the extremely slim chance that she did, would that really sit well with any of the members of the cast at this point? Both playable and NPCs? Also I think Ragna will be freed somehow. There's still that whole "Protector of the Azure" Jubei mentioned unless that's already been covered. When Jin and Ragna do have their final fight hopefully it'll be between Jin and Ragna and not just the Power of Order vs The Destroyer.

[BlackYakuzu94]

Alright so Tsubaki wants to kill Ragna for what I assume is only for the sake of her and Jin correct? On the extremely slim chance that she did, would that really sit well with any of the members of the cast at this point? Both playable and NPCs? Also I think Ragna will be freed somehow. There's still that whole "Protector of the Azure" Jubei mentioned unless that's already been covered. When Jin and Ragna do have their final fight hopefully it'll be between Jin and Ragna and not just the Power of Order vs The Destroyer.

She wants to kill him because of what he did to Noel and Jin, and the fact that he's kind of a danger to the world. We don't know what's gonna happen, or if Ragna may actually get out of this one, he might actually just die like a dog.

[MrBerzerk]

She wants to kill him because of what he did to Noel and Jin, and the fact that he's kind of a danger to the world. We don't know what's gonna happen, or if Ragna may actually get out of this one, he might actually just die like a dog.

It wasn't his fault for going berserk. And I thought that Noel got out of that situation in good condition as opposed to Jin. Which is kind of ironic if you consider what happened earlier.

[BlackYakuzu94]

It wasn't his fault for going berserk. And I thought that Noel got out of that situation in good condition as opposed to Jin. Which is kind of ironic if you consider what happened earlier.

I don't really think she cares, the fact is he hurt two people she cared about...badly in Jin's case, and he threatens everyone else in the world as well. Its more or less the same mindset Hakumen has.

[Shinhwa]

I am really worried about the future... I just seriously hope it doesn't end with death for major characters (Especially Nu-13 DX). Ragna doesn't deserve death at all

I think there is also the possibility that Rachel may sacrifice herself to save Ragna because she loves him. Who knows.

I really want to know what role Nu-13 will have in the next game though, as she is my favorite character QwQ

Edited November 4, 2013 by Shinhwa

[ImmaYuukiTerumi]

Don't tell me they gotta just have to talk her out of it by proving themselves like Persona 4 =__=;

Then it reveals that Izanami isn't gonna be like P4 Izanami. She's actually the Sharingan Genjusu Izanami. Meanwhile our heroes are just stuck in a cave and crap.

But seriously, I expect Saya to interfere and save everyone.