Master Of Chaos Posted December 16, 2013 Posted December 16, 2013 What do you mean? Anyone who has that kinda dedication to their waifu can't be a bad person. Just look how cute she is. So the fact that she stabs him everywhere with throwing swords, tries to kill everything that isn't him, and backstabbed him magnificently after he went through massive character development and saved her makes her good? K.
Shinhwa Posted December 17, 2013 Posted December 17, 2013 I don't think saving Ragna suddenly makes Nu "good". Here is the thing: When Nu was in her original body, she was embodiment of psychopathic yandere that loved to hurt herself along with her love interest that she always loved to hurt Ragna, saying "let's kill each other to the fullest Ragna~!!! <3" However when Nu was in Lambda's body, she showed signs of being a good girl. If she was still in her original body, I doubt she would have gone to Ragna's rescue and instead would have tried to go all murderous yandere on Ragna again, getting in his way. I said this before, but I speculate that the body her soul resides in affects her personality in a way. Nu's Body: Has Seithr injected into her body, has the Black Beast's Heart (Azure Grimoire), programmed by the antagonists (Hazama and Relius). Lambda's Body: Does not have any of the stuff stated above except maybe receiving adjustments from Kokonoe. But from my view, Ragna has his own parts of being at fault for turning Nu into a murderous yandere. I am not sure what would have happened if Ragna approached Nu in a nice way in the beginning, but Ragna was all "KILL AND DESTROY EVERYTHING" on the Murakumo Units, including Nu's previous bodies that it really seems that he made Nu make her own kind of assumptions and misunderstandings. Also the fact when Nu approached Ragna in a nice way at first kind of (Not sure if she was really trying to be nice, but she really was worried about Ragna's injuries at first), he was still like mean and ignorant of her. Not sure how Mori plans on approaching Nu in the next game, but I swear after all of the events and past Nu has gone through, she really deserves to be saved. Otherwise it's just tragedy to another tragedy after for her pretty much =_=.
BlackYakuzu94 Posted December 17, 2013 Posted December 17, 2013 The thing is, Nu still hates the world. She hates everything about it and the reason she wants to merge with Ragna so badly is so they can destroy it together, in her own words. Saving Ragna does not suddenly mean that personality trait disappeared, nor does it mean she'd have a change of heart because at the end of it all, she just wants Ragna and nothing else. The only way you could get your "happy ending" for Nu is if they completely ignored that fact, which would be kind of a cop out honestly.
Shinhwa Posted December 17, 2013 Posted December 17, 2013 Nu is like a frog stuck in a pond in a well, so I think her view of the world is kind of really small, due to only having seen bad stuff... The only nice thing she saw was the part of memory that she got from Saya about Ragna >.<;;
Toxin45 Posted December 17, 2013 Posted December 17, 2013 (edited) I have another clue that Toya and Ragna are the same how did Ragna get blood kain if that was Mei and her families technique. Also Es could have been Rachel in her original form since the "original" master unit was originated from the Alucard family. Also Soichiru as Yuki Terumi/Hazama is also implied as they share the same eyes and the fact that Terumi is a ghost... Edited December 17, 2013 by Toxin45
Shinhwa Posted December 17, 2013 Posted December 17, 2013 Zedar, I have a question to ask, although I think this was asked in the XBLAZE thread or maybe the story thread before, but... Are there any connection between Ragna and Touya in terms of soul or existence? Not talking about their abilities but their existence itself. If not, then how about Sechs and Ragna? I know them having the same voice actors may just have been done out of whim, but if not and it was done on purpose to create a connection, are there connections between the two of them?
harmless kitten Posted December 17, 2013 Posted December 17, 2013 may just have been done out of whim, Assuming Mori is telling the truth, it's not. He said there's a reason for all the shared voice actors, with exception of Tomomi Isomura who plays Makoto and Yuki.
Zedar90 Posted December 17, 2013 Posted December 17, 2013 Zedar, I have a question to ask, although I think this was asked in the XBLAZE thread or maybe the story thread before, but... Are there any connection between Ragna and Touya in terms of soul or existence? Not talking about their abilities but their existence itself. If not, then how about Sechs and Ragna? I know them having the same voice actors may just have been done out of whim, but if not and it was done on purpose to create a connection, are there connections between the two of them? There is a connection with the Voice Actors (except for Yuki's/Makoto's), that is what Mori has said, however much of Touya's and Sechs past is unknown. Even the talk about Touya in Hinata's end is a big confusion: Touya: ... where am I? ???: This place is, only mine's and your's world. Touya: You are...? Could it be... in that dream... ???: Fufu. You know, I have remembered everything.¨ Touya: What have you...? And that voice... ???: So you really know who I am? I can take of the hood, right Touya-chan? Hinata: Tadaa. The small girl with the azure eyes was me! Touya: Why is Hinata...? I can't see the connection... Hinata: You know, I've always wanted you to save me. Because Touya-chan has always saved me when I was little. Touya: ... from when are you talking about? I can't remember it at all. Hinata: I remember it. The prince who always saves me from the scary things. That was always you Touya-chan... ... however that Touya-chan, died a very long time ago. Touya: Eh!? But I'm alive!? Hinata: That's not it. The current Touya-chan, you are Touya-chan but you're different. You are a different Touya-chan created by my feelings. Touya: I don't understand a single thing of what you are saying... Hinata: You don't have to understand. To me, and to you, you are Touya-chan... ... And that is to both you and me the truth. Touya: I'm not really following, but I'm Touya? Hinata: Yes. You are "Kagari Touya". My prince that I love... Touya: ...! Hinata: It would be better if it always could be like this... Touya: We can't? Hinata: ... yes. Touya: Hinata... Hinata: Touya-chan, I'm sorry. To have gotten you involved in such a big thing. Touya: In such a big thing...? eh? What... is this... Hinata: Even tough... that is how it is... I will... Touya: Hinata!? Hinata: Together with you... Touya: Hinata!! Hinata: in those peaceful days... Touya: Hinata!!
Toxin45 Posted December 17, 2013 Posted December 17, 2013 Zedar, I have a question to ask, although I think this was asked in the XBLAZE thread or maybe the story thread before, but... Are there any connection between Ragna and Touya in terms of soul or existence? Not talking about their abilities but their existence itself. If not, then how about Sechs and Ragna? I know them having the same voice actors may just have been done out of whim, but if not and it was done on purpose to create a connection, are there connections between the two of them? Well Toya and Sechs are quite similar since they were look like the same being as noted by Kuon.Also his dna was probably used for Ragna's body and Toya's Soul.
Toxin45 Posted December 17, 2013 Posted December 17, 2013 There is a connection with the Voice Actors (except for Yuki's/Makoto's), that is what Mori has said, however much of Touya's and Sechs past is unknown. Even the talk about Touya in Hinata's end is a big confusion: Touya: ... where am I? ???: This place is, only mine's and your's world. Touya: You are...? Could it be... in that dream... ???: Fufu. You know, I have remembered everything.¨ Touya: What have you...? And that voice... ???: So you really know who I am? I can take of the hood, right Touya-chan? Hinata: Tadaa. The small girl with the azure eyes was me! Touya: Why is Hinata...? I can't see the connection... Hinata: You know, I've always wanted you to save me. Because Touya-chan has always saved me when I was little. Touya: ... from when are you talking about? I can't remember it at all. Hinata: I remember it. The prince who always saves me from the scary things. That was always you Touya-chan... ... however that Touya-chan, died a very long time ago. Touya: Eh!? But I'm alive!? Hinata: That's not it. The current Touya-chan, you are Touya-chan but you're different. You are a different Touya-chan created by my feelings. Touya: I don't understand a single thing of what you are saying... Hinata: You don't have to understand. To me, and to you, you are Touya-chan... ... And that is to both you and me the truth. Touya: I'm not really following, but I'm Touya? Hinata: Yes. You are "Kagari Touya". My prince that I love... Touya: ...! Hinata: It would be better if it always could be like this... Touya: We can't? Hinata: ... yes. Touya: Hinata... Hinata: Touya-chan, I'm sorry. To have gotten you involved in such a big thing. Touya: In such a big thing...? eh? What... is this... Hinata: Even tough... that is how it is... I will... Touya: Hinata!? Hinata: Together with you... Touya: Hinata!! Hinata: in those peaceful days... Touya: Hinata!! Wait I thought that was Es since she looked like she has blond hair.Maybe Es and Hinata are somewhat the same person.
Zedar90 Posted December 17, 2013 Posted December 17, 2013 Wait I thought that was Es since she looked like she has blond hair.Maybe Es and Hinata are somewhat the same person. Possess Azure eyes= has the embryo. Hinata= Code: Embryo Es= Embryo Storage= Manifestation Boundary Contact Prime Field. Is a spare body for Embryo. The earliest memory Touya has of is that he sees a small girl with Azure Eyes(Hinata) and has a cloth rounded around her, and Touya hear's a womans voice who he thinks is his mother ordering Touya to protect the girl. Hinata's eyes later turns brown and after she is finished tempered her eyes turn Azure again. Inside the boundary she transfers her "feelings" to Es and her eyes turn brown and Es' eyes turn azure.
Toxin45 Posted December 17, 2013 Posted December 17, 2013 (edited) Possess Azure eyes= has the embryo. Hinata= Code: Embryo Es= Embryo Storage= Manifestation Boundary Contact Prime Field. Is a spare body for Embryo. The earliest memory Touya has of is that he sees a small girl with Azure Eyes(Hinata) and has a cloth rounded around her, and Touya hear's a womans voice who he thinks is his mother ordering Touya to protect the girl. Hinata's eyes later turns brown and after she is finished tempered her eyes turn Azure again. Inside the boundary she transfers her "feelings" to Es and her eyes turn brown and Es' eyes turn azure. Oh that makes so does that mean that Hinata was a shell being transferred to Es which has the master unit's consciousness? Edited December 17, 2013 by Toxin45
Zedar90 Posted December 17, 2013 Posted December 17, 2013 Oh that makes so does that mean that Hinata was a shell being transferred to Es which has the master unit's consciousness? Don't really say what the Embryo really is, the only thing that is Known is that when you get it you can use Phenomenon Intervention, open the Gate of Sheol and can use a type of "Discover Call"(Existence resonance) to find the Master Unit in the boundary
Toxin45 Posted December 17, 2013 Posted December 17, 2013 Don't really say what the Embryo really is, the only thing that is Known is that when you get it you can use Phenomenon Intervention, open the Gate of Sheol and can use a type of "Discover Call"(Existence resonance) to find the Master Unit in the boundary So what happened to Hinata and Es?
raziel12 Posted December 17, 2013 Posted December 17, 2013 well regardless guys its going to be awhile for us to find out about ragna but right not we need to try to figure out wat mori planing for all the loop holes in CP because their is no doubt that a remake is underway and they plan to use CP as a chance to reveal more storyline and increase the combat system before they truly make a sequel case CP still got more room for improvement and if they do plan to make a XBLAZE 2 you guys will be waiting awhile that depends if they still plan to use the same TOI and A.O.S system from the last game
Zedar90 Posted December 17, 2013 Posted December 17, 2013 So what happened to Hinata and Es? Hinata was revived and put in her bed while not remebering of the fact she was embryo. Last she was seen was feeding Akira since Akira couldn't use his hands. Es is sleeping in the boundary (NSFW)https://i.imgur.com/gqz9gVg.jpg
Toxin45 Posted December 17, 2013 Posted December 17, 2013 (edited) Okay I'm starting to think that Embryo is Rachel Alucard or at least parts of her soul considering that the master unit was maid by the Alucard clan which will no doubt appear in the sequal. Perhaps Hinata and Es were her artificial bodies of Rachel while she was inside the master unit.As well as the current Rachel in BlazBlue the Loita might be another artificial body Rachel used as an avatar. Edited December 17, 2013 by Toxin45
Shinhwa Posted December 17, 2013 Posted December 17, 2013 Hinata was revived and put in her bed while not remebering of the fact she was embryo. Last she was seen was feeding Akira since Akira couldn't use his hands. Es is sleeping in the boundary (NSFW)https://i.imgur.com/gqz9gVg.jpg I don't remember seeing this in any of the Game CGs. where is this one from?
Zedar90 Posted December 17, 2013 Posted December 17, 2013 I don't remember seeing this in any of the Game CGs. where is this one from? It's not a CG, it appears at the very end after the credits(I used my vita to take a screenshot), and you can see Es spinning around for eternity until you press a button.
Shinhwa Posted December 17, 2013 Posted December 17, 2013 It's not a CG, it appears at the very end after the credits(I used my vita to take a screenshot), and you can see Es spinning around for eternity until you press a button. And... then she becomes Master Unit: Amaterasu I guess?
Zedar90 Posted December 17, 2013 Posted December 17, 2013 And... then she becomes Master Unit: Amaterasu I guess? I dunno, That's the very last part you see. Es spinning slowly and the song 大切なお話 (Important Story) playing.
Shinhwa Posted December 17, 2013 Posted December 17, 2013 I dunno, That's the very last part you see. Es spinning slowly and the song 大切なお話 (Important Story) playing. Can't tell in what order Arc System will release the next sequel... Blazblue 4 arcade first then XBLAZE 2 then Blazblue 4 for console? More like is it confirmed if Blazblue CP is getting an extended or II version like CS?
Toxin45 Posted December 17, 2013 Posted December 17, 2013 I dunno, That's the very last part you see. Es spinning slowly and the song 大切なお話 (Important Story) playing. Huh Perhaps that Hinata and Es did fused in some way to become Master Unit: Amateratsu though I still wanna know how the Alucard clan maid this.
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