Lord Knight Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 As of right now, it's mainly about why those matchups are bad. I'll touch up on it further when I play them more so I can really think about it. I think I have a pretty good idea of the Teddie one, however. Feel free to chime in. I'm going to call this the rough draft of it since I was really only replying to someone telling me to back up my claim. I didn't think I'd be interested in doing write ups. I'm now very interested in doing so. Anyway, the post is the first one on this page.http://www.dustloop.com/forums/index.php?/topic/5315-p4ap4au-psn-match-findergg-thread/page-134 Edit, playing my friend's Aigis to get more notes on that. Teddie aside, Margaret is even vs Aigis and Yu.
Radori Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 Shoutouts to Urich for coming up with this beautiful fatal combo here.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwCrYdMvoGo Teddie aside, Margaret is even vs Aigis and Yu. Don't drop Margaret please. :l And yeah, after playing the Aigis one more, it's certainly even. Where are all the good Yu players at?
TheOneTrueScrub Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 IDK I think LK might go back to his true love lol
So-Called-Chaos Posted February 14, 2015 Posted February 14, 2015 he is truly amazing with marg. so glad he still uses her in 2.0 lol.
rubedo777 Posted February 14, 2015 Posted February 14, 2015 I don't think Shabrys beats Margaret...I think it's the opposite actually. I'd like to see the reasoning...
Radori Posted February 19, 2015 Posted February 19, 2015 lol Tahichi broke 900 PSR with Margaret. I saw this, It's pretty amazing. He's my hero. (:
Arcana Posted March 3, 2015 Posted March 3, 2015 Hi everyone, I just got the game and I really have no idea where to start and what to do with Margaret, any advice or tech things i should be doing with her?
Radori Posted March 3, 2015 Posted March 3, 2015 Hi everyone, I just got the game and I really have no idea where to start and what to do with Margaret, any advice or tech things i should be doing with her? Oh yeah! I was playing you on Xbox Live, right? Don't worry, I'll take you in. Hit me up with a friend request. (: Having a mic will make it even easier.
So-Called-Chaos Posted March 3, 2015 Posted March 3, 2015 I don't think this was already mentioned but Margaret's guard cancel hits low, don't know how useful this could be but still its nice to know lol.
Radori Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 I don't think this was already mentioned but Margaret's guard cancel hits low, don't know how useful this could be but still its nice to know lol. The only time you should use Guard Cancel Attack is if you're going to go into an OMB situation to put them on pixel of death. Just Guard Evasive Action.
Radori Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 I don't think Shabrys beats Margaret...I think it's the opposite actually. I'd like to see the reasoning... After playing Bananamerica, I'll do some sort of write up. The general idea is that Margaret is really good at deal with Asterious in neutral (probably the best character in the game at breaking him) and that's where you'll wanna try and stay if you can help it. Offense is RPS with Shabrys because her DP ignores our safety range and hits us anyway. So things like stagger 5A lasers and sneaking a God Hand in there can get us blown up. Defense is really hard without meter. Like REALLY hard. Lord Knight, please play Bananamerica and give your in depth thesis on how to win that matchup outside of neutral. Because I have never had to play that hard in my entire life. Despite this, Shabrys is one of my favorite matchups in the game only behind Elizabeth.
Elochai Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 What does rps mean? Rock paper scissors; RPS just refers to a situation where you're forced to guess more or less.
TheOneTrueScrub Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 Rock paper scissors; RPS just refers to a situation where you're forced to guess more or less. Thank you
Radori Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 Played him more today. I'm starting to get it more but I still feel the same way. I also forgot that her 214A/B/SB only hits once. Power Slash beats the bite setup and even if they block, it's rather hard to punish. Of course if you have meter to rapid, you get out for free. Also, if you have 50 meter when she does Titanomachia, use Power Slash to break Asterious. And again, neutral is pretty easy. Not too easy but very managable. You can win games in neutral if the player can't defend. Sweep, Divine Vacuum, God Hand, j.5D and j.2D all break Asterious. So you can keep her on the other side of the screen for a while.
Fortune Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 I use Power Slash OMC to sort of make a wall around Margaret and then prepare to block if I can catch something like 5C or Buffalo Hammer. And I do so sparingly/sooner rather than later. Of course, Power Slash will straight up ruin Titanomachia if Shabrys or the bull is too close on activation (not sure if empty Titanomachia is safe against it, but I usually prepare to block/roll those anyway) Pretty much all of our normals break the bull except for 5A/2A/j.A, D grabs, AoA,and j.B (but 5B /will/ work). Anything over 400 damage in a single hit should break the autoguard. Of course, use the best normal at your discretion (but wouldnt footstomping the bull be hilarious?)
mixedmethods Posted March 15, 2015 Posted March 15, 2015 The timing is very strict, but if done properly, Power Slash clashes with command grab set-ups (leaving you -50SP and taking a massive punish). Your DP, even if teched, breaks a card if Asterius is active. Going ham with it is a bad idea, but it's still an option.
Radori Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 Lord Knight got 10k damage with Margaret! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVnGfAM12nQ& It's so beautiful! The timing is very strict, but if done properly, Power Slash clashes with command grab set-ups (leaving you -50SP and taking a massive punish). Your DP, even if teched, breaks a card if Asterius is active. Going ham with it is a bad idea, but it's still an option. Pressing DP against Shabrys is very dangerous indeed. I've been hit by a fatal 5C from her as a result. I didn't DP for like 6 games after that. ._.
So-Called-Chaos Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 not really worthwhile info but still funny to know, I was playing a friend who mains teddie and if marg suplexes him so that they both land on top of the curry, they both get inflicted with fear, poison and (I Think?) silence lol pretty sure it works with things like the muscle drink too
Lord Knight Posted April 16, 2015 Posted April 16, 2015 Margaret quick match up update: Narukami - still hard. Yosuke - not too bad. Kuma - bad. Aigis - difficult to learn, but she wins. Minazuki - not too bad. Akihiko - fine, but don't mess up. Sho - fine. Ken - she definitely wins. S.Lab - fine. Rise - not bad, but pretty tough. Yukari - same as Rise. Chie - fine. Marie - annoying. Mitsuru - probably Margaret favour. The rest - she definitely wins.
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