Halcyone3

makoto fits my fighting style better i still play the same as ever with noel though, so i'm still up for some mirrors if u want to hand me my scrubby tushy in a platter just like the good ol' times if u want

play? noel? on tournament lvl play? no names come to mind. All noels that have made it on video lately dont even get a chance to do something before they are pounded into the dirt. The rumor was that the reason R-1 quit was out of frustration, so that alone tells you quite a bit how bad she is on the tournament scene.

R-1 quit

3C is easily beaten by george and pumpkin. Lobelias are lobbed, so they will fall on you if you carelessly try to 3C to avoid them, and even if you are careful, her wind can make them land on top of u anyways. Rachel has standing attacks that hit makoto even with her 3C hitbox, like 5B, there are not many moves u can 3C under vs rachel. Also parrying lobelias won't stun rachel unless you are standing right in front of her. U might as well just IB them for heat instead.

ragna dosen't really best her in a fight, he just grabs her head (getting himself shot along the way) and snaps her out of it

i dont think he means with her as human, judging by how the aunt freaks out =x

true enough, point taken

compared to them a toddler with a maracca would be consireded S tier.

could i ask for you to elaborate on this?

unless u were trolling, why would u think makoto is even remotely comparable to noel tier-wise?

nothing, pure trolling purposes, figured the guy wasn't too happy after a 150 heat combo

did u gold burst after it?

fixed it, mah bad =x i blame the hazama in ur avi for misleading me!!!

u win madam

hey for all we know, the nail could very well be the Rettenjou, it was never explicitly mentioned otherwise, so it's still a valid speculation think of it this way, her guns use seith bullets that allow them to detonate a point in space that her gun's barrel is pointing at, even if there are surfaces between her guns and the target point in space. And for moves like 2D and such, she is just detonating a point right in front of the barrel. Not sure if this is the accurate description of how it works, but it sorta explains more or less until we have an actual full explanation

u also try to do 5DD->4DD->236D? god that has gotten me kicked so bad

done it with makoto, haven't tried with noel.

stop arguing over that tier list, it was already mentioned a shit-ton of times that it's just 6 random (pro, but random) ppl ranking the characters from 1 to 5, of course its incredibly dubious. Not only is it rather biased, but the 1-5 rank thing also make it highly inaccurate, not to mention one of them seemed to just be trolling. It's nice to have at least a vague idea what some pros think, but this is a match-up chart discussion thread, that tier list has no match-up information whatsoever. Why is it being taken so srsly and why are we still arguing about it?

that RLY is interesting, didn't know that

i have quite a personal liking to highly character specific shennanigans like these

tager =/= potemkin potemkin was a much better character, but that dosen't mean that just taking moves from potemkin and giving them to tager is the solution, move copy and pasting is very poor character design imho. Finding ways to make tager better while not making him into potemkin would be the better approach. The one thing that makes him unique from other grapplers is that magnetism, though i do not know what much else they could do with that right now besides give it stronger pull or something =/

he got his butt handed to him though =x

4D should only give upper body, 5D is the only one with full body...... now u have me doubting though. it is upper body, i think mooyang was using "true invincibility" to contrast it to CT's 4D, not sure. But it's definately upper body only.

her 4D has invincibility, upper body, starting at frame 1, makes for a makeshift AA.

The whole point of their release around this time seems to be so they get some playtesting on console. So I'd assume yes.