LunaKage

No! Bad Hex! The input window for 22B/C has most certainly changed, it feels more stiff and retarded, it's why sometimes(read: FUCKING ALWAYS) I miss the input after a Counter Hit 3C, because the added hitstop just completely fucks my input over.

BBCS2 MI Offline Casuals: Shinsyn0021(Jin/Bang), Shadow Flash(Jin), LunaKage(Noel)

GGs Dooku, in case you didn't see my response post in the MI thread, feel free to visit the thread whenever, we have like 900 guests lol

Having Chao run this thread was a good idea.

This is my favorite of all of Noel's tools, sadly it will be gone in CS2+ but here it goes: Option Select 6A > 2B on wiff 6A will come out, and maybe get punished, no big deal. on Normal hit, you cannot combo, however this puts you in an advantageous situation to anti air them as they land or go for an air grab on CH you can run up and cambo into 6C(if they were high up) or 2A > 6C(if they were closer to the ground). On block, the 2B is neutral, so you can normally go into more pressure. I love this set up so much ; w;

6A > 2B was a huge part of how our AA OS worked, and with it gone we will be taking a huge risk whenever we go to anti-air.

What?

Why, Tager of course :3 He's my favorite opponent. Also Tetra-K, you're my hero, just so you know.

Really now? Because I don't ever remember losing to you, you kept falling for the same thing over and over again, also I didn't lose to any Tager when I actually picked Noel. Oh btw, I'm Noel Mod, nice to meet you.

Hey guys, WolfKrone is thinking of picking up BB and Mu, wish me luck in converting him.

Top tier laziness eh? You're mistaken, I don't give a fuck what they do to drives, I don't even want them, but they're just nerfing her, not making her normals better to compensate, just nerfs, hell they've even nerfed her 6A, which was like her only really good normal, so yeah, I'm pissed, making my character weaker in the area that needed to be weakend is fine, but completely destroying her chances of doing anything is not. Let me ask you, without drive starters, how "easy" do you think her confirms are? I'll give you a hint, they're not, at all, the people like me who actually use her normals have it rough because if we want to do any damage we have to throw out an unsafe string of normals for optimal damage, but if the first hit doesn't CH we get punished, or we can swallow our pride and use drives for an easy 4.8k standing or 3.7k crouching. This is what I'm mad about, to restate: I don't give a fuck about drives, not a single fuck, but they aren't even trying to FIX my character, they just want to see her die. Also, back when I played Plat, her hitconfirms were the easiest I've ever had to deal with, I almost switched her to Sub status but I didn't like her items at all.

Exactly, which is why you have to PLAY SMART when you fight Noel, not just autopilot the same dumb shit, Noel punishes dumb shit, and she punishes it HARD, however even then, it still doesn't even work 50% of the time, if you aren't punishing drive on ACCIDENT at least half the time, you're not staggering right. Oh well, back to the days where Noel wasn't a threat to autopilot rushdown, guess I won't be playing this dumb ass game for much longer.

I stopped reading when you said "Baited and punished" because you're implying Noel's drives can't, and if that is what you think, I'm not gonna try to have an intelligent conversation.

I thought they were trying to get rid of DPs that lead to combos? Now they are nerfing Noel's "Reversal" combos and buffing everyone elses? Sounds fair.

It could just be 5C's p1 got nerfed, which honestly would be a worse nerf than Mami being reduced damage.

Nope not yet.

It only combos on counter hit or crouching hit.

4.5/5.5 Tsu at the least, 4/6 Tsu at the most. Easily one of Noel's worst matchups, since even my shitty ass Makoto has an easier time with Tsubakis that know what they are doing.

You can tell him Dream Sally oki really isn't all that great, like it's about a 6/10 on the scale of okiness.

When she uses them. 6A will beat out a lot of drives, other than that just use fast pokes and you win.

Bat is -10, it can be punished, it's just kinda awkward to get used to it.

Cirno you wanna see if my connection will allow our little 12 match marathon?

Heart Car in the middle of a blockstring is a pretty retarded idea, only a retarded Noel would just randomly throw in 4D in the middle of stagger pressure. If she is pressuring after you block a reversal drive attempt, Heart Car is still iffy since we can hit you out of startup with a lot of stuff, luckily Drive pressure is easy to just jump out of and call it a day, punish with whatever you want, j.C seems to be the favorite of most Plats for punishing Drive while in the air(It literally kills everything we do, a well spaced j.C is even safe against 6A, it really makes this matchup a pain in the ass for Noel, trust me on this one).

See? Noel lost her hat, meaning she is impossiburr to be able to be a hatter.

Hatters gonna hat. You could always go back to CT Polka.