LunaKage

I understood, but one thing is for certain, in Ragna Mirrors, I'm putting my money on Ragna.

He implied that Tsubaki isn't as bad as we think. I don't really see how Noel/Tsubaki is in Noel's favor, I still think its even, mainly because Tsubaki's normals beat Noel's normals, and stuff her drives %75 of the time, but once Noel starts beating on her its hard for her to recover. So it's a matter of Noel surviving long enough to get lucky and land a hit.

Guess that's a good point, still though, if a character is so good against another that its a recommended strategy to NOT use one of your character's tools, that kinda says alot for the match-up doesn't it?

Pretty sure if Lambda wiffs a sword Tao has time to nail her with 6C, depending on where Tao is at the time of the wiff. Also due to her swords having shit recovery, Tao can get a CH Drive attack pretty easy.

Damn, I really hate 4:3 after getting this beastly TV, but I guess if I wanna maintain a competitive mindset I'll have to settle on using it. I guess it wont be so bad for me if I got those borders to work with, while most people seem to hate them, I think they're pretty cute.

Whats wrong with 16:9? aren't they just pulling an MvC2 and extending the backgrounds?

So thats what you meant? Shit, I remember that. 5C definitely needs that, I was CH'd out of 5C at max range by Lambda's 5A, I promtly sadfaced. Thanks for the clarification DT.

I agree with this big time, the Noel forums are a huge eyesore, and our match-up threads are mixed with CT and CS information in the same thread, to the point where you need to skip several pages until you get to CS match-up info.

I can agree with this. Honestly the only Buff I really want is priotity on her normals, it seems like every time I wasn't pushing D I was getting counter hit, but obviously I wont know if that was changed until I play it for myself. I keep hearing the term "disjointed hitbox" I know what the two words mean seperately, but what exactly is it referring to as far as Noel?

All of the characters are supposedly getting a 5B or 5C that is air unblockable, does anyone know what Noel's is? Hey man, ouch. I do agree, but that stings.

The first section(before the spring raid) can hit everyone yes, but after the 4D > 236D > 66C > 5D, the d.6B wont connect on Carl or Noel, I can get the combo to work on Lambda fine, but the really small characters, and for some reason Makoto, can tech out of it.

I was mainly referring to her non haida 3C combo, with 22C bouncing higher, and spring raid losing its ability to link to 6C without the corner, we're not gonna be doing alot of damage off of our most unsafe move. it looks like: 3C > 22C > 66C > j.D > d.6D > d.5C > d.6B > 236D it seems like this would be all we could get off of a naked 3C, hopefully something else would be found out though. I'm personally hoping that 22C has more untechable time to compensate the higher bounce, so if timed right we can still land 6C with our opponent right in front as opposed to them being above our heads, I also heard 5D was slower, so that may not even connect after 6C anymore period. I won't really know until I see more, or play it myself. This is the video I was talking about. DC, you think you may wanna actually contribute for once? I know you're trollface and all but damn.

I know that combo, doesn't work on alot of characters.

Sure the other characters losing crazy shit helps Noel, but Noel needed crazy shit just to get 4.2k, her non-haida BnB is gone, her haida is shot to hell, and looking at the one video I saw from loketest3, she can't even do her simple 4.8 corner combo(the version without fenrir). So how in the hell are we supposed to get damage? She's looking like she's gonna be Tsubaki without charge moves.

Hopefully you're right. Looking forward to the Japanese showing us some crazy shit once the real CS2 is released.

I guess that's true. Though Litchi not doing Big-Daddy-Damage is 100% truth. Noel at least has the excuse of using big ass guns.