from kikuchiyo
アルカディア曰くライチ棒4B無敵発生9F~19F 発生17F持続3F んであのリーチと受け身不能時間でしょ そりゃつえーよ 素手の性能も気になるけど頭無敵があるのは間違いないから大体似たような性能なんだろう 素手4Bの受け身不能時間が気になる 対空した時は受け身取れないっぽ?
4b[e] is unarmed right.
4b[m], invincible from 9f to 19f. Startup 17f, 3 active frames. And that reach and untechable time? That's strong. I'm curious how it is without the staff too, but it definitely has head invincibility so it's probably very similar. Also the untechable time of it.
As an anti-air it doesn't seem feel like they can tech? (I'm not sure on this part, I don't know the japanese terms for tech stuff. it's ukemi)
and then speculation between galileo and kikuchiyo went like.. Galileo likes 4b[e] better, think it is faster and the head invuln is also probably faster, and the recovery is definitely less. Kiku likes the staff version because of the reach, and hasn't figured out combos off 4b[e] yet. then Galileo posted some combos from like 2250-2500 damage.
Is there a 4b(1) or something? He said that a lot of matchups became easy because of it.