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i guess you can say its a link... so yea.. just play with it... its not really too hard...

c.S crouching slash? or close slash? if it is crouching, then see below.. if Not, just see 1) 1) do jK -> jD ->j2k ->jK ->land relaunch air combo to knockdown for non CH, you can do this with CH too 2) if you CH its usually better to wait a bit 6H -> 5H -> to air combo of choice 3) or do iad jH -> land 5H to air combo of choice

...... no homo...plz...

i will try that when we fight next time!!! urahh!!! lolz...

good stuff, enjoyed the vid, and especially the editing... lol... i wish i had editing skillz like that... good shit Bahamutt_Zero! Even Though most of Eddie stuff looks repedative, but most of the stuff seem vary enough that it doesn't feel that way too much so good shit Latif!

i think its a different story for Pad vs Stick? i ono.. i can't get my thumb a full circle -_-...

Get fucken Hype!

when fighting venom, i would just FD away his Melee and push him away, then force him to use his FRC to get in, when he low on tension he will then try high lows or ticks, so during certain times its best to super jump out and get away. i just IB the balls to gain tension... but i ono that is how i feel when i fight him, he always crank my bar up and do massive dmg cause sometimes iget afraid to FD, but then, sometimes you just got to FD that shit! lolz...

it works on others, you jump airdash not IAD... or you super jump iad... but you also got to delay slightly inorder for the other character bounce into height.

Done. Needs anything else let me know...

I don't have the clips anymore, someone else is working on that... Estimated time... No Idea~~

Eh.. sorry for the delay, but here it is... Thanks Heidern98(Jeff), i think i spelled it right??, for taking care of the recording, while i had to do other stuff, though some clips might have lost parts of the match and stuff, but overall its all there... I think Heidern98 got the other vids on his cam so hopefully all is well... Since i only got the Team portion i will just put the vids here.. and since there is one team i wasn't sure what character they used, they might have to tell me or people who know... Team No Jomo (DVD, lovepig78, Hell from above) vs Team I Have No Idea (Frankthetank, PRO, Joshthefunkdoc) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rile2TTm74E (no idea how the bracket worked over here... or why this match was recorded compare to some other matches??? but whatevers, i wasn't here so, here you go) Losers Quarter Finals Team Cross Up (Latiff, DigitalWatches, Hellsap) vs Team DO IT LIVE PART II (Stormlocke, IceTrap, Sir Phobos) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r3vwTaNPHg Team I Have No Idea (Frankthetank, PRO, Joshthefunkdoc) vs Team SHTKN (SHTKN, Pulsr, Mike Z) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1hkO6hutLc Winner Semi Finals Team Cross Up (Latiff, DigitalWatches, Hellsap) vs Team Shit Pillow Champions (Elven Shadow, AKA, BlackSnake) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcWhcWKXWNs Team SHTKN (SHTKN, Pulsr, Mike Z) vs Team MIU (Hellmonkey, Miu, Nerina) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtT_m3MoPK8 Losers Semi Final Team Cross Up (Latiff, DigitalWatches, Hellsap) vs Team SHTKN (SHTKN, Pulsr, Mike Z) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8u3Q9S2abE Winners Finals Team Shit Pillow Champions (Elven Shadow, AKA, BlackSnake) vs Team MIU (Hellmonkey, Miu, Nerina) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWxGSoFfxTU (I forgot why the rest of the matches wasn't here... o wells) Losers Finals Team Cross Up (Latiff, DigitalWatches, Hellsap) vs Team MIU (Hellmonkey, Miu, Nerina) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtd5z7MhyPg GRAND FINALS Team Shit Pillow Champions (Elven Shadow, AKA, BlackSnake) vs Team MIU (Hellmonkey, Miu, Nerina) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9QN62PqBOU (Part 1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3fgLaIX9f0 (Part 2) Uh.. Enjoy???

Nice matches, keep up the good stuff... good shit Mac!

i actually don't mind having another perspective on how HoS will try to Rock Slayers face, since you can find counter tactics to it, but right now, just saying rock beats scissors or scissors beats paper right now is hard to actually say, i will do this to beat your this in actual match cause not every time everything will be in neutral stand point, and not guaranteed any of these outcome will turn the way you want it too most of the time anyways... i would actually like to hear actual people playing against actual people experience and how things turn out that way since it helps people visualize. IF the discussion would go toward this direction more, it will actually help these match up discussion threads..

I still think SV is a piece of shit as a "Wake Up tool," and that is what i mean in my original context.. compare to other much better DP's as for using it as a Poke, that remark does not apply to it since its in a different context... but i will say this, IF Order Sol does SV and does not AC it will not net a CH 2S, if the Order Sol Planned to AC, no matter if they missed the FRC or the AC have not started up, it will be CH... the point isn't about dmg out put for Slayer after 2S, the Point is, "I hit you with a combo, it dealt its purpose, i knocked you down, i can Okizeme you" its just that... that is SL's game right there... its not about who can output most dmg here.. its about me scoring the combo and knockdown, and its still in my favor at this point... as for 6P beating RI, it beats it, nets a CH, and can lead to combo which will end up in corner and repeat Okizeme. 6P sometimes can go through bursts... lol... sometimes iad JH will not hit RI, if youtime the jH a little late... its wierd... but o wells.. Right now argument feels that if ur in neutral and HOS gets momentum... i am more just elaborating when you get ur knockdown, SL just does what he does, but keep in mind of his wake up options Obviously if people say Rock beats scissors or paper beats rock , so on and so forth this can go on forever... Just IN general, SL options is to knock the HoS down, start his Okizeme, and everything else is how tricky can the SL be to net his hits in, and then HoS will just die, or run away, etc etc.. as far as i seen, or played, against HoS they like to Tick throw a lot, but soemtimes its one of those things where you have to anticipate it, or you gona end up jumping and they air throw you or anti air or watever... Also just refering to the part on, IF we slayers have to keep in mind about ur SV, it can be used against us, well then so be it, but if i keep my mind about it, it just means wouldn't the Slayer use safe pokes and okizeme options, unless the SL is just going on Auto Pilot, its the Order Sol's risk to test if the Slayer is paying attention or not... really... i will still mention that any random SV missed or blocked is pretty risky against SL, if you get it to hit, then yea, great you get ur momentum, but if you miss, then, a good Slayer wont hesitate to hit you out of ur action charge or what not, before you even have a chance to AC it... Just a side note: i hope i did not offend any Order Sol player with my remarks, but i am only giving my 2 cents, and some of these remarks as Order Sol's DP is a piece of shit, i got that from my Order Sol friend :V... lolz.. and after playing countless times, in that context, it does feel futile... lolz...

Slayer does have Better Pokes then Order Sol And Order Sol has very few reliable wake up options other then block.. 2H works to an extent, but since order Sol jump is LOW, and he is fast, and his jH is pretty good air to ground, he can easily bitch slap you as he jumps up.. Since he jumps low, reaction 2S is not that reliable as far as i seen since i get CH out of it almost all the time, or what not.. once Order Sol Gets momentum, ur best advice is just to block it out and watch out for tick throws. once you knock order sol down, just start ur okizeme, since order sol players do know that their uppercut is a piece of shit, and if they get it blocked they gona die by a 2S and get a combo hit and put back to the floor. dandy step against Order Sol is not good cause he can fafiner ur legs for free, 2H can beat Fafiner but i only got taht to work once, so other then that Fafiner so far can straight out beat it. dont reckless jump or you gona eat a 5H or GunBlaze Since ORDER SOL jumps are low, he has pretty nasty high lows so got to watch out for that. Hatred Edge: Even if he WAS or IS a Slayer player it doesn't mean All Slayer players won't call their own characters CHEAP... and READ what he wrote once again... since he by all means didn't Say HOS is CHEAP he said HOS is Annoying, which is viable to an extent.

i am low tier, i dont double tap ..

thats a stormlockable it deserves a dollar...

lol crank that gaurd bar till flash Bite and CH DOT Clap -> Combo!!!

i still use it!

I pulled it off last gathering... kind of, but it was even more extreme my opponents stick mal functioned as we played half way then i DOT him when he couldn't move cause of his stick not being read by the ps2!!!

Mappa Punch CH DOT!!!!

http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4877

ergh i shoudl clarify that one, i mostly meant from farther away from wall like somewhere farther form mid screen obviously the closer to wall you are the easier it is to hit DOT FRC jK can hit some heavy weight or big hit box characters i believe.. or if my memory serves me correct..

another thign i must add, if DOT hits from farther away, example Tip of 5K or somethign like that, FRC jK might not hit... so sometimes its best to do nothing and try somethign else..