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So Shinsyn has decided to step-down as the moderator for the Yu Narukami forums. And I am happy to announce that I will be stepping in as the moderator for these forums! i'll try my best to keep it up to date. I may or may not try to link/edit in recent match footages since it hasn't been touched for a while. Looking forward to discussing stuff when p4u2 hits.

If you want more help with hyde, i really recommend getting into the skype chat, we do most of our discussion there, along with interesting finds that we may forget to add in this thread due to it being one huge thread. if you want in, send VR-Raiden a pm!

Carl mirror is great, it's an all out neutral game where the first hit leads to victory cause setplay!! reminds me of a bit of p4u :D

Fucking called it, it looks possible to pick up after the trade

theres a separate forum for 1.1 combos over here http://www.dustloop.com/forums/index.php?/topic/8688-cp-11-kagura-mutsuki-combo-thread/

you wanna optimize your combos so that when/if you do land a hit you wanna make it hurt. Kagura may have a better neutral game then prepatch kagura, but its still not the best.

i've only tested this on ragna, but apparently j.a completely whiffs against a crouching ragna, so trying late airdash j.b>j.a, j.b will hit, but j.a whiffs, is there anyone who gets hit by j.a while crouching?? maybe tager??

if you want some quick knockdown/setplay in the corner: 5B>5BB>3C>6DC>2DC>B orb> 5C> A orb> 5C> 6DC>2DA> [5DA>B orb] or [j.1DD>3C>6DC>2DB> A orb] once they block the orb you can go again with 5B and repeat or use [6A>RC>3C] and repeat if you dont have the meter, i think its better to go for B orb ender so you can jump and get a high/low mixup. Damage should be about 4k for 5B starter and ~4.3k 6A RC starter feel free to upgrade this corner setplay.

its already known that shadows each have 2k more health than their non-shadows, so he has 11.5k health.

The following formula already does that. left number of the addition is the 35% health value WITH the defense modifier, and the right number of the addition is the 65% health that has not entered awakening.

ugh, i forgot to add in the word "IDEALLY" somewhere in my text, let me edit that.

Ok, so generally there are 8k, 8.5k, 9k, 9.5k, 10k, and 10.5k health values, however with the inclusion of shadows and the fact that they don't go into awakening mode with the defense modification at 35% health, you need to take into account the health values of characters in awakening mode, its pretty much the following. So ASSUMING you go into awakening at exactly 35% hp, here are the Ideal values: REGULAR reg+awk SHADOWS 8000 9680 10000 8500 10285 10500 9000 10890 11000 9500 11495 11500 10000 12100 12000 10500 12705 12500 if you want to check out the "true" health values for regular characters with awakening health you do the following: [(Regular HP x 0.35)/(0.625 defense modifier)] + (Regular HP x 0.65)= HP for Non-Shadows (reg+awk) the 0.35 number is the portion of health thats suppose to be in awakening and the 0.65 number is the portion of health NOT in awakening.

HP buff depends on how much health characters have. Using 9500 as the median, for characters below that health, their shadows will have more health than the regular versions, while characters with more than 9500, the shadows will have less health than the regular versions when you take into account of awakening health. characters at the 9500, shadows technically have more health, but its really negligible by like a difference of 5hp.

Here are the results for the three games. P4U (10 entrants) Full Bracket: http://challonge.com/KS8P4U 1. Grover (Yu/Ch/No/Yo) 2. Naochii (No/Mits/Random Select) 3. Colpevole (Ch/Aki/Random Select) 4. RK The 505 (Liz) 5. Quotes (Aki) 5. JK (Aki) 7. Limiter (Yu) 7. TheSmang (Ch) 9. RK Airthrows (No) 9. Peanut (Yk) BBCP (8 entrants) Full Bracket: http://challonge.com/KS8BBCP 1. Colpevole (Haz) 2. Grover (Kag/Rag) 3. Peanut (Mu) 4. TheSmang (Tao) 5. Limiter (Az) 5. Quotes (Hak) 7. E$ports (Hak) 7. JK (Bang) GG+R (13 entrants) Full Bracket: http://challonge.com/KS8GGR 1. A3R (Johnny) 2. Peanut (Dizzy) 3. Grover (Venom) 4. E$ports (Pot) 5. Quotes 5. TheSmang (May) 7. Remy 7. Naochii 9. Darksim 9. JK 9. Poret 9. Limiter 13. Colpevole

Which characters can delay tech 3C>2DC>[4]6B and NOT get picked up by the b orb?

Event is next week! Also, KOF13 has been added to the main line-up!

We're here with our semesterly Fighting game tournament ran by the Rutgers Underground Gaming Society (UGS). Hosting a variety of main games and side-tournaments. $5 venue fee (waived if you bring a setup!), $5 per game, $1 for side tournaments. If you came to our last event, it was previously in Busch Campus in Piscataway, but we've changed locations for this event to the Cook/Douglass Camus Date: Sunday, March 30th, 2014 12:00pm-8:00pm Location: 59 Biel Road, New Brunswick, NJ 08901 Games set to run right now: Guilty Gear: Accent Core +R (PS3) Blazblue: Chronophantasma Persona 4 Arena (PS3) King of Fighters 13 Injustice (TBD) Super Smash Brothers Melee Super Smash Brothers Brawl Super Smash Brothers Brawl Project: Melee Side Tournaments to possibly run (Depends if anyone shows): Jojo's Bizarre Adventure: All Star Battle Nidhogg AE2012 UMVC3 [if anyone wants anything else, you can recommend it!] Please bear with us as we iron out the list. This is largely tentative, but will likely be pretty close to what we run with. There will be FOOD and also PARKING! Schedule will be posted in the upcoming days. FB link (you can choose to RSVP here or not): https://www.facebook.com/events/1477523972470401

so while looking up p4u2 narukami things, i happen to come across this person's channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRESP1_dBJqqAxnKf5z3lIw/videos and some of his vids deserve more views. vids that stood out were the following: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDLA0vO2Nmo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5IG0vr35P0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SCrYapd7U4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObNH35BG0x0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IB1tSk18r0c and according to google translate and a friend, this person's channel name is Akio. please correct me if i'm wrong.

original vid that showed the secret super could be slightly extended. luckily that link included the true ender to narukami's secret super. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzOGYykf2R0

So far, this is what i've noticed in the recent pile of vids. I'll be using 4 matches of Narukami. I'll edit this post with Shadow Narukami info later on, so for now you'll have to settle for regular P4U2 Narukami. -one thing i noticed regards his grounded DP CH. Versus Sho[Tsukiyomi] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbDl93iFQTk#t=2m48s, towards the end of the 1st round, Yu manages to get off a CH DP due to Sho's excess pressure, he's now able to combo into CS that will crossup as SHO descends. -towards the end of the 2nd round versus Mitsuru http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH8ptSwnicw#t=4m25s, both characters arrive at neutral and Yu opts for ex-slide, while mitsuru goes for DP, however, it seems either ex-slide has more frames where he can low-profile attacks or mitsuru's DP hitbox has been raised higher, which would explain the whiff, I'm guessing the hitbox change. -in the second round of KDB vs a Chie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKVAwnwOJOk#t=3m30s, KDB baits a chie dp by doing 5A jump-block and manages to punish the recovery of chie's dp with a 5C CH, so Chie's DP has more recovery frames along with the CH state. so thats cool for us in this MU. -YMST does a great job at utilizing narukami's neutral game in both of these matches vs Kawakin (sho tsukiyomi) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLxacypdksE#t=4m21s and vs Soei (Yosuke) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLxacypdksE#t=19m15s despite losing to Soei. Against Sho, he manages to hold his own, while recognizing when j.C j.214b wont connect by tryin out j.C j.236C, tho it whiffs, he's still safe and back in neutral. Against Soei, YMST does a good job at breaking yosuke's persona each 5D/j.D he throws with 5A. There's also instances where he shows its possible to combo air throw > j.2B off non-CH throw and being able to react to a CH air Zio from a distance into air Ziodyne for the kill. He does manage to go for D-zio Charged tactics where yosuke bites by activating DP, but unfortunately the DP connects each time. again, i'll try to edit this post with Shadow Narukami info in the bottom.

more vids incoming! Take your time with it Shinsyn. On the general discussion, i'll try point out some cool shit that will be an easy reference to by directly linking it to a match. Narukami 1/19/14 MAXIM HERO 2on2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3U_FFuqPpM#t=12m KDB vs Junpei http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH8ptSwnicw#t=4m25s ??? vs Mitsuru http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKVAwnwOJOk ?? vs Junpei http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKVAwnwOJOk#t=3m30s KDB vs Chie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKVAwnwOJOk#t=7m20s KDB vs Torowa (Mirror) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKVAwnwOJOk#t=9m35s Torowa vs Junpei 1/19/14 MAXIM HERO Red vs White http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFJcvpcHYUY#t=4m40s ?? vs Shadow Labrys (Asterius) 1/25/14 Miraimu Aoyama Red vs White https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbDl93iFQTk#t=2m48s ?? vs Sho [tsukiyomi] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbDl93iFQTk#t=7m33s ?? vs Naoto 2/1/14 MAXIM HERO Casuals https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oITSOSDOZUo#t=5m47s ?? vs Novu (Yosuke) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsJYILHczLI#t=7m12s ?? vs Novu (Yosuke) - rematch of the previous link. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsJYILHczLI#t=9m30s ?? vs RH (Labrys) 2/8/14 CW Ishibashi Singles https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLxacypdksE#t=4m21s YMST vs Kawakin (Sho[Tsukiyomi]) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLxacypdksE#t=19m15s YMST vs Soei (Yosuke) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-l-QBWyB4Q#t=4m12s Tome vs Rayu(Akihiko) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-l-QBWyB4Q#t=11m40s Tome vs Nerune (S.Mitsuru) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-l-QBWyB4Q#t=16m15s Tome vs Nagis(Kanji) Shadow Narukami 1/19/2014 MAXIM HERO 2on2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3U_FFuqPpM ?? vs Mikagi(Yukiko) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3U_FFuqPpM#t=6m25s ?? vs Yukari http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH8ptSwnicw#t=6m23s ?? vs DQN (Chie) 1/19/2014 MAXIM HERO Red VS White http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFtRQBQ4BIQ Woki vs Kanji http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFtRQBQ4BIQ#t=5m15s ?? vs DQN (Chie) - rematch of the last chie-fight above. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFtRQBQ4BIQ#t=7m10s ?? vs Don (Teddie) 2/1/2014 MAXIM HERO Casuals https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oITSOSDOZUo Woki vs RH (Labrys) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oITSOSDOZUo#t=5m47s Woki vs Novu (Yosuke) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsJYILHczLI Woki vs RH (Labrys) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsJYILHczLI#t=4m20s Woki vs ?? Narukami THANK YOU JOURDAL FOR THE UPLOADS!

for the team tournament thing, i was considering it be just teams of 3 of a character, meaning there can be multiple teams of the same character (aka 50 team steaks). just because there is already a team of kanjis/akis/etc, doesnt mean there cant be more. its to also not handicap anyone from playing their preferred chars.

1/11/2014 urban square 3v3 via jourdal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7RK3e5Dgg8 @0:00-13:00 Hanage/??? Hanage vs Mizuki (Mitsuru)/Labrys/Chie, ??? vs Mitsuru http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Woc-7RIIkTUt=28m35s Chou vs Secchan (Aigis) **http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHny7_QscIc#t21m45s YMST vs Sorashido (S. Labrys [Asterius]) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Btan3LYuNwM ??/??/?? @1:35,7:00-17:30,26:15 S.Yu vs Aigis, Narukami vs Aigis/Kubo(Sho)/MAD (Teddie) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=265UQ0REAj4#t=24m35s Aguro vs Sho [Tsukiyomi] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o85P5y2YB2U Aguro vs Aigis/Aigis/Secchan (Aigis) these vids mostly contain Narukami, only 1 match has Shadow Narukami, but you don't see much in that match. **the beginning of this vid has the rest of Chou's match vs Secchan (Aigis)

yoooooo issen shiden da gawd!! clean punish on chie's defensive burst > D meteors! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7RK3e5Dgg8#t=7m22s

Chie's SB power charge combos.... idk why the hits on air sb rampage are so damn high. i dont remember it not scaling in p4u. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdxlhnKy6nQ