NecroTheReaper

I was gonna say the exact same thing. Tager doesn't have a projectile to hit you out of jump startup while guaranteeing his command grab. He's not Platinum/Koko

I have both vita and ps3 CP, so comparing the two, the vita feels good for what it is, it just feels so damn tiny after playing on ps3 for so long. Could probably fix that with one of the vita cases. Also, I cant imagine doing hakumen combos consistently on pad xD. Every time I try and do 5B>kishuu>enma, it always fails cuz I'll either accidentally jump or wont be fast enough. Also, I'm sad we didn't get to go a round yesterday in x40s room TD. Things got really busy and I was always the one person sitting out so I just left after a while xD

Well, in order to firstly discourage them from dp'ing, I use 22BD oki at least once on characters like Ragna or Kagura. If they DP, they get punished (though their reversal DDs can beat this setup). Also, empty jumps can convince people its time to dp, so if they're not respecting, just hold back on your empty jump and be ready to tech grabs. Dp baiting really isn't just something you can do all tje time because some people are more aggressive while others are more passive on defense. Bursts on the other hand have a lot of opportunities that I've seen you can bait with. I wish I was able to jump cancel>block after 3C more intentionally, but typically, you can ley for free after 3C, 6C air hit, or after haas in the corner. These are places where people typically burst the most. Other times you can bait a burst after leis with ley, but this is more unsafe since they can air tech before you recover. I just ley spam in these few areas when I feel people wont respect my combos. Also, if its close to the end of a match, you both have low hp, and you get a reversal vinum off, you can 6C>ley for trolling or UB setup for being legit on grounded opponents. 6C is more preferable if they were hit airborne.

I'm also getting it with my bro. Though the games mechanics confuse me since I havnt ever played a french Bread game before. Also have no clue who I wanna play, but my bro was gonna main hilda and sub seth. Also, ggs to that Koko I faught yesterday. I claim j.A and 6A is 80% of why shes top tier

I wasnt doin much better lol. Think we came out even in that set. Also ggs to Nem, I'm not sure if I'm glad or empty that I didn't get bodied by your Mu xD;

Ggs to the Shadows xD I had the misfortune of my sick little sister coming in here to see me NOT playing legend of zelda, so she screamed in my ear and now I got a headache x.x

It was this one in particular that was terrible. It said it was a 3 bar connection, but it was among the worst lag I had ever seen.

So if you ley dead spike off of 5C>dead spike, are you at advantage, or should you use this time to sj.IAD away?

I really wish Sony would just take psn down for a few days. Do some REAL maintenance pn this stupid lagfest thats been happening lately. Maybe he just had potato internet (which this could be foxed by your connection to someone not being based by location -.-) or psn is screwed up bad. So either ark needs to change its way of displaying connection status (I swear if you say it wouldnt make a difference, I'm going yo orochi stomp you xP) or some maintenance. Also, hitboxes. I know 5B>6C is unsafe as hell, but when you have respect and they're lettin you throw it out, it better hit. The thing moves me.like 3 feet forward, yet Ragna's stupid crouching hitbox was "nah". Plus, Koko's a button should just be a shortcut to barrier. 2/5/6/j.A all removed. Balanced. xD

Is there any way to combo the fuzzy off a 214C lockdown without being unsafe other than using a rapid? Get someone to block it gives you plenty of time to mix them up, but the fuzzy is useless without j.2D. If not, its no big deal, just have to spend an extra 1300 ignis after, but this would be cheaper for oki. And Errol, you startin to pick up interest in Relius now or do you just like discussing your most hated? xD either is cool, I'm just curious.

The "hes bad because I never have to play as him" means you're spoiled and are gonna cry yourself to sleep for a week when you get UB'd to death or eat 5 volante mixups.

Well regardless, Lich said a while back (like page 12 or somethin) that due to the risk of screwin it up, its not really worth using on EVERY cast member. I guess if ypu grind it out enough and have perfect execution its viable, but its really tight.

Its amazing when you get the Extend clash sequence happening. I remember that mirror we had where they clashed perfectly. Really all my annoyances with actual characters are only highly mobile ones. Or myself for not being indifferent about losing in a casual match. Why do I get salty over casuals? Why can I not have fun if I don't body a good player? Stop being so competetive me xP

Its not that, its that the hitbox of j.c wouldnt reach so it let you crouch under it. If you try to switch to low blocking after j.B with these characters, the j.C would straight out wiff. Any lower and you'd either land before you could jump or j.B wouldn't come out period. I tested them by recording tbe fuzzy, block the j.B standing, try to switch to crouch blocking, and if it hit, I'd say it was a success.

When you tested those characters, how'd you test the fuzzy? Cuz the way I was doin it, all of them could crouch by the time j.C came out. I ask cuz I use to test it just by seeing if the computer blocked it, but the computer is retarded and will block if you're close enough to them. When I put Relius on record and tried to crouch between the hits, Relius just wiffed.

I cant think of many character specifics at the moment Dx. Anyway, what's the cause of somehow crossing up the opponent after a j.214B>IAD ender? Because I like mixup options that beat wake up options, I try and do Lich's 66>j.2D to kill back rolls and some dp's, but some times I end up putting myself in the corner. Also, how tight is j.2D in this setup?

But... but koko's only been out for like 10 months. Also, I look at it as it works on almost all of the high tier characters. I mean, it works on more people than 22CD combo works on, that's gotta mean something xD

Makoto, Izayoi, Carl, Rachel, Bang, Bullet, Platinum, Noel, Arakune, Kokonoe are all the problem characters it doesnt work on. If tney block the fuzzy, a falling j.B is still yout main followup, but if there's a gap on IB I think it safejumps. You still get about 3.5k damage from a fuzzy

Ok, since I hadn't faught a lot of good bang's before now, I can't feel like this is one of our better MU's. It can be 5-5, but every time I play against him it feels more like a 6-4. Mostly because I cant keep him from just sayin "Adios" to ignis and superjumping the entire screen while throwin a dart here and there and beatin me right in the face. Then, a lot of our tools with ignis are screwed by autoguards, mostly there's a looooot of oki setups that I just cant make bang respect. By the time you have an ounce of respect, he's got 50 heat and 4 seals, so pretty much 3 reversals. I just cant deal with super jump height. How do you do it? I try and use 4D to knock em out, but it only works like 25% of the time, the rest of the time 4D just wiffs completely. Should you keep ignis near and just use 6D/j.xD till he's out of nails so if he tries to IAD approach you can actually AA him? Its annoying

Bang having like 400 average defensive options. Inferno divider and Kagura's DP dont compare to how many things bang can just autoguard out of. But despite how versatile a defensive option it is, lets drop 3 all good reversal distortions on top of that xP. Oh, and people who use color 24. Colorblind assholes.

I mean 6A>RC>5C while ignis recharges though. Not many people expect 6A to be used solo, and if 6C>41236B combo'd, we could do solo combos that waste plenty of time. Also, great way to make people impatient. 2C>6C>41236B. All day. People see this and they're like "I can mash out if I see it again", then you're like 6D. Then they try to IB 41236B to make it - on block. 6D. Then they IB DP... are you retarded? I can still just 6D for safety xD. They try to jump out? Air grab/4D. Backstep depends on character, but we do have plenty of toys to make people impatient. Males me wonder why people don't find Relius' playstyle as trollish as Hazama's.

The reason why the fuzzy is so good though, is as Lich said in his guide, its Relius' only unreactable mixup option (unless you wanna do some 6A/41236B RC IAD shenanigans). Making people have to predict that you'll do that j.C which is (i think) gapless can instantly open people up who aren't already predicting instead of reacting to your mixup. Not to say everything else does well on its own, but j.C>6A is easily mashable (8f). Going to frame traps though just brings up my wish of I wish he had meaningful CH/crouching confirms. If 6C>41236B worked regularly, itd be amazing for ignis regen. Make safer 6A>RC combos worth the safety instead of goin straight for 236C>RC.

I use it at neutral too, give people without the air mobility somethin to be scared of xD. I really need to use that fuzzy in my mixup more. WHY DOES EVERY PERSON I FIGHT USE A TINY CHARACTER. And yeah, kill combo from burst = a very salty opponent xD kill combo from 3/4 hp = respect

If you wanna really be impressive, stockpile 100 heat, keep OD available, and wait for a chance to punish with 236C for an 8k damage combo. People will be stupified and impressed that you broke 7k with Rel.

Another thing that gives you a great feeling is if you did a meterless OD combo and had 50 heat by the end still in OD. You use OD 236236D, people manage to jump over it and attempt to attack, just to get caught in the blade whirl portion's crossup hitbox and get themselves killed.