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So annoying that everyone plays while I'm not home -unwanted- xD. I'll be leaving here soon though
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Well I have quite a lot of free time, so if you want a Relius, generally I have my vita to receive messages while my ps3 isn't on. Just send me a message/invite/whatever lol. After realizing a fatal flaw in my playing, I realize I still need a lot of work
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[CPEX] Relius Clover Gameplay Discussion
NecroTheReaper replied to HARD_BREAD's topic in Relius Clover
I just watched through some of my recent replays and noticed when I use 2C/6C in pressure... I auto-pilot into 236C even on block. i need to fix that. -
Its cool, fun games. Woulda really liked the replay on that last match but oh well, it'll come again xD
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No clue Dx if its my internet, I'll eventually probably blow it up @.@
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The move used as a reversal yeah... no wait, with 6C launching, setting up UB's is stupid easy, yeah, gear super lost almost all usefulness lol
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6A was fine. I didn't know how long the super armor lasted, but that 2D pushed you out of the rest of gear super Dx
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I swear I keep hearing platinum say "pokemon"
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V... vat? Vat the hell vas that? I didn't even know gear DD could lose hits if it connected.
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It refused to connect again so I restarted my router... I hate internet @.@
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Pink... pink... orange... ...green... DAMMIT NET PLAY WHY ARE YOU KICKING ME ALL THE TIME?!
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Can I get that invite again? Damn netplay not connecting
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Invites plox :O
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I'll be god awful right now, heaters broken so I'm a frozen Col Relius
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Cmon, I clearly remember you talking about how bad Tesnolgic sucks in th vita thread a while back ago to... huicho? One of our vita people. In all seriousness, I never get to fight you anymore tesno Dx
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Mine's Kokonoe but I've used only Relius for like 250+ matches lol. Had some fail attempts with my Carl twice, but I'm obviously not that Relius player. I'd be crap right now, dunno why I'm so tired.
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I've never really played as Rachel, but looking at the movesets of the characters, seems like even if Kokonoe wasn't a completely bs retarded character right now, fundamental issues would give Rachel a hard time, mostly cuz Fireball gives no fucks about george or rods, or any other projectile in the game. Mu 236A on roids.
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Relius wears pink by default, the rapist is the only real man xD I need to work on my Relius more... and warm up mah body, any suggestions? lol
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[CPEX] Relius Clover Gameplay Discussion
NecroTheReaper replied to HARD_BREAD's topic in Relius Clover
I just realized lately how much I do this, if its working, is throwing out an air throw just about every other IAD a decent idea for air to air? xD; -
Something fun I found out in this matchup, if a Carl thinks he doesn't have to respect ignis oki because of vivace, corner crossunder 3C>214C will screw up his inputs and if he somehow does reactionary vivace to go with the crossup, he'll vivace right back into the corner. Granted, there are plenty of ways to make carl respect your oki as is. I've also played this matchup a lot, so I'll get some more info in here eventually. Long Range: Your Tools vs His Tools At this range, both of you have tools to do stuff, but generally Ignis>Ada. Volante is beaten by any ignis move, and fuoco has a long startup which you can usually force carl to block with smart uses of Lugia. IADing from this distance I'd say is safer for Carl than for Relius imo, but its still dangerous to close distance either way. Medium Range: Your Tools vs His Tools Your normals are faster, safer, and longer range than his, but that doesn't necessarily make them better. Unless you have ignis (which you should), Carl can easily vivace and call Ada, putting you in a CON situation. However, with ignis, generally you'd beat out alot of his moves. However, he still has Ada, and your 2000lb gorilla of a daughter has a lot of moves that could screw you. Most notably, Carl's new Terrenezza (46D). It has a fast startup and keeps you blocking for a long time, plus has a lot of range (might have super armor, kinda behind with my Carl). There's also all of her old moves like her 4D which will smack you for high damage if you don't pay attention, 6D, a decent poke, and Brio, the always rediculous anti-air. In short, you>Carl Ada>Ignis generally. Close Quarters: Your Tools vs His Tools Safest and most dangerous area, but more dangerous for you since a lot of Carl's moves are fast, short range pokes. His 2A and 5A are both faster than yours, he can easily put you in a CON situation from here using them. And its even worse of he has Ada nearby or a Volante running around. If you're at neutral in this distance, don't mash mindlessly, you might regret it. In The Air: Your Tools vs His Tools His j.A is one of the fastest moves in the game, but it also has pitiful range. j.B has more range, but its not as fast. Generally your normals aren't suited for an air to air situation, but luckily his puppet can't float behind him and punch you in the face. Also, your airgrab does more for you than his does for him imo, since you can get 3k without ignis easily with it and still retain oki. Offense Your Offense: Carl has no real defensive options, but he does have a real small hitbox that might make jump mixup less desirable since he has plenty of time to vivace. Proper use of ignis will obviously stop this, but its still an option he has. However, he still has faster pokes than you, so if you try and get him to mash, he might just get you. Still unlikely, but keep an eye. His CA can be annoying, but it has bad range for a CA, plus ley is amazing if you read it right. His Offense: His pressure when compared to you is longer and more dangerous, but its also not complete lockdown like yours is. If you get into CON situation, be calm. Try and make him waste as much Ada meter as possible since she recharges so slowly. Blocking though will be difficult, he is one of the best mixup characters (if not the best) with a ton of crossup, throw, and high-low UB setups. Using a CA or a burst might be a good idea in this situation, though he's just as good as you when it comes to baiting them. Defense Your Defense: You've got 4 defensive options generally: ley, backstep, gear super, and CA. Backstep is the best if you can use it, followed by CA, but none of these options are guaranteed, especially since Carl has 2 bodies lol. One thing that should be noted is that if he tries to go for a j.B-3D UB setup, they'll usually auto-pilot into a CT to get rediculous damage, using led ley will beat this xD. This will generally cut their combo potential pretty badly if they start catching on and go into another normal or grab if you ley. His Defense: He's got most of the same options as you, minus a DD with invincibility. His vivace can get him out of a lot of situations that involve ignis, but generally, unless he has 50 meter to CA, you can do what you want. He does have a good AA though, so be careful for delayed air dash pressure cuz it could be easily stuffed. Gimmicks and Resets Always watch out for the UBs. He's got a lot of em, with several ways of goin into em. If he vivaces out of Ignis corner oki often, as stated above, you can do corner crossunder 3C so he can't vivace out of the corner. Match Summary Imo, not as tough as in extend since he no longer gets 5A's into CON situations that give him 50 heat+oki. I'd say its 5-5
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[CPEX] Relius Clover Gameplay Discussion
NecroTheReaper replied to HARD_BREAD's topic in Relius Clover
Didn't think so. But for a quick list of oki options since it was brought up :O (note, I don't know what all is beaten by what) 3C>j.D>j.C 3C>meaty 2D (can lead to corner crossup) 3C>meaty 214B (can go into some odd throw mixups with ley) 3C>delay 214C 4D>66>1C>delay 214C>IAD (really confusing crossunder 4D>66>1C>meaty 214B>ley (screw with their mind) 3C>236D+j.C (ub setup, not quite as good as 6C setup imo) -
[CPEX] Relius Clover Gameplay Discussion
NecroTheReaper replied to HARD_BREAD's topic in Relius Clover
It was mostly a memory thing based off of Extend's 214C xD; I usually time it to hit with all 3 hits though, is there any reason to use it immediately after 3C? -
[CPEX] Relius Clover Gameplay Discussion
NecroTheReaper replied to HARD_BREAD's topic in Relius Clover
Its -9 on block, so its not the greatest pressure tool, though I wouldn't say its for combos or zoning specifically either. Its kinda like guessing which cup the ball is under cuz if they think you'll use the C version and they airdash, you could've opted for the B version which is still a pretty safe distance away from you. Usually though you'll guess between A and c for this, B's distance is kinda stupid. -
[CPEX] Relius Clover Gameplay Discussion
NecroTheReaper replied to HARD_BREAD's topic in Relius Clover
A lot of the safejump j.C stuff has been around since Extend, its really his only reliable oki option without ignis, but generally you want to use 214C oki. Only beaten by late neutral I believe, and it otg's, and because of that plus how long it lasts, makes it really easy to confirm into CT for about 5k damage. If I'm down to roughly 50% ignis, I'd rather do a good damage ignis-less combo than a great damage one that gives no oki or further ignis usage. Luckily the tk lauger path still works which is quick and only uses 1000 ignis. -
Also, if you find it won't hit because they're too high, I've seen even pro Relius players just switch to 236C>214A/B enders. I'd say landing it is largely affected by how late you can delay 3C>6D