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That list is pretty suspect @DE That's one of the reasons why it's suspect, not to mention Mu and Tao's placement. Also Hakumen and Kagura?!

If it looks like a duck, and walks like a duck, then it's not a chicken.

I never said it would make her terrible. I did, however state that her Graviton regen was a joke. Not even a funny one.

Very slowly as in damn near not at all. Somewhere out there Matoi is cursing Mori's parentage.

There's just something about eating that same TRM setup for the 6th time that makes you say "thank you sir, may I have another?"

Koko is also doing less damage. It would appear she has to choose between damage, zoning, oki, and mixup now. Her Graviton regen rate is a joke. Wonder how much thought went into that.

What I would like to see is a character tier list based on attributes as opposed to matchups

Also, do not test her pressure. She can frame trap you with 5C and it will HURT like a sonofabitch, especially if she has heat up or meter, so try not to mash 2a. Another thing to watch out for is 2B. That move is tha gawd and will beat out your 5B in neutral (I sub Bullet) and will gatling into 5B/5C and heat up level 2 if she has meter. Until you get into GA mode, try and keep her at 236B range. Her close range normals outclass ours. At long range she WILL be looking for Afterburner, which is a gamble because of how screwy the projectile invul is on it, and some will give no fucks anyway about Sonic Saber and go for it anyway (yeah puzzles me too but it happens). Cutting Shear is a joke, you can safejump it and bait all day long. It's basically an arms race, she wants Heat Up and we want stocks. Our long range is better but her pressure is nuts. Beat her in neutral, get those stocks and stay out of the damn corner or die.

I see you're a gambling man

Terumi isn't a "bad" character per se, he just doesn't have the collection of tools that a lot of other characters above him possess (Hazama, Litchi, Koko, Jin, Mu, etc) Even if you thought of it in terms of playstyle, he's kind of close to last in the race, as his rushdown is topped by quite a few of the cast (Valk, Noel, Ragna, Relius, hell even Makoto and Tsubaki have better tools in many scenarios)

Hazama, Ragna, Jin, RELIUS just to name a few

Until Terumi has at least a respectable OH, he will stay basement tier. All that speed and flash damage don't mean much if you can't open your opponent up

Or Valk. Or Koko. Or even Carl. Nu still has suspect matchups and it looks like now even Tager wants in

As long as no one is broken, I for one am not too worried about tiers

He had mixup? News to me

Goro is OP

Eh, I guess it would be difficult to go beyond that without her being over the top. Her normals are pretty good in the footsie game as is, and that dash speed is ridiculous.

As long as that icon is lit up, I'm baiting. People burst at the most random times. I just shake my head when I get bursted out of a 2A confirm at the beginning of the round. Then again, it's usually to stop a 6 stock combo, but hey, details....

Did they boost her neutral at all? Aside from her counter that is.

To play devil's advocate, some players want to learn other characters, or they simply have a lot of subs (like me) and they can't sit still on any character that isn't their main. It does happen.

Valk can bait with w7D/w5D and punish you for this, although it's a heavy commitment on his part. Or he can cancel into 1D and w5C your 6A if he reads you right, although this also requires heavy commitment. Your advantage in this matchup will be the constant threat of ID, though Valk CAN beat this. A LOT of wake up mind games until you can turn the tables and murder his weak defensive options.

No, it acts more as a link. Think of it as J.D and it would appear to kinda make sense LOL. Too soon (before wJa connects) and nothing comes out. Too late and 5B will whiff, which is why I recommend pianoing. Even works on pad.

Mind games, son

You can sort of piano it. There is a timing to it, just comes down to muscle memory. Just make sure you hit 5D immediately when you connect with wJa

Okay I call shenanigans on that one. No self respe-never mind.