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http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?15621-Underlying-channel

There's an FRC on there? I was wondering what the change was about... But why an FRC? Unless there's less proration, I don't see anyone wanting to tension combo off of bite.

That's what I would assume... Considering his previous changes, I think they considered him good/OK already.

Teyah: what about nullDC with my plugin?

Don't make me whip out that producer vs consumer talk again. They promised us a free +R patch.

But... I don't wanna wait till spring! (Not for the fixes at least)

Considering the list as we have it now and them being aware of it, I'd just give them time for now(till like January) before asking them again.

Really buggy? What you think happens in games like CoD and Skyrim? This is nothing in comparison.

ElvenShadow emailed them, the discussion here is about getting everyone here in line and not send any mixed signals to arcsys when they are reading this, as simple as that really.

And again you delete the post... How do I not know what ArcSys has done when I encountered similar issues with my netcode? All issues reported are things that I've run into with my own netcode before. Some of these issues even occurred with the #R online netcode. I know pretty damn well what their decisions where and what they need to do to fix it.

Once you get used to the game you will find you have enough time to launch 5H 214D and double tap both moves. Just practice it, it's not that hard on timing or anything.

If you don't have any warranty, please open the ps3 and check for dust first(yes, it's a fucking pain)

This is business logic, this might be their side of the story, but the problem right now is that in between those steps, they made a mistake. We as the community, point that out to them because as mentioned before, they appear to be listening. How they achieve what they need to achieve is not my problem nor is it something I care about. Of course I'm always up for learning new things and hearing how things are going internally, but that won't change in what manner that hammer of judgement swings down on their end product. As a community we simply cannot afford to slack off on these kind of things, because if you give them leeway, you give them the possibility of ruining what potentially could be good games; which then in turn would mean that people that would've bought the game won't buy the game which means they decide to switch platforms or they hit chapter 11 as it is. We are gamers, we want to be entertained, we never settle for less.

Yes, especially during the weekends, where I don't have customers nagging to me about bugs in software that I'm developing for them... for which they PAID... I don't care to think. And yeah, it can sound selfish, but if you paid for a full candy bar, would you accept only half or 80%? Especially with distributers hunting down their own customers because allegedly they didn't pay to play the game, it is very important to send a message back where we can. We cannot allow a developer deliver short on one of the game's flagship features and since arcsys seems to be interested in listening to us, we explain them what we think is wrong. If they weren't interested, we wouldn't have bothered and most of the people he would've stopped buying their products, simple as that. Yes it is selfish, but for me it's MY money, I WORKED for that money and I decide how I spend that money; and if they want (some of) my money they better deliver proper. And to reflect, the PC AAA market has failed to deliver for over 12 years, so noone here is really worried.

No, this is in fact the same netcode. The difference is that both BB and P4A are DESIGNED FOR NETWORK, GG is NOT. GG is far more demanding as networking is considered and they simply fell short. I don't think I mentioned BB anywhere except for this post when it came to complaining about the netcode. The netcode is simply substandard to my own. What does that have to do with anything? Besides, it's a well known fact I live in Europe. Nononono, this is just... NO. Lets make this perfectly clear: 1. I(ME, and maybe a bunch of others) pay money. 2. I expect a game that is working properly. 3. They(Arcsys) developed this game and take (most of) that money. 4. They failed to deliver. How the fuck they arrange their resources to get this game out is of NO concern to me. I want GGXXAC+R with WORKING netplay or my trust as a consumer in them will be considered damaged and I will remember this occurrence when considering buying future games. There is no "They had better things to do", they are responsible to make true on their end of the bargain. Yes, after nummerous of times of explaining them what they should do and how they should do it, I should just insult their intelligence even further and do it for them! That will stick well with them!

To be perfectly clear, I never said the change is bad. Even theoretically it does allow you to get more control over your opponent even in midscreen(which was a problem). Though what just slipped into my mind was that the knockdown could've been gotten anyway if we wanted it because l2BRP would combo. That would mean that the 5S2S5Hl2Ri 5S-H l2BRP combo wouldn't just replace the old one in terms of damage, but would also gain the player knockdown AND one or even two free action charges. If this occured in the corner, OS could've continued the combo instead of action charging and probably would do so much damage that he'd get his own dedicated tier!

I would expect a commercial company to produce better code in 8 months than I have in 2 weeks and I don't see why anyone should expect differently...

In AC Order Sol could gain level 3 from l2Ri combo, especially when the opponent teched backwards. I can't really say why they would've made this change and I don't see any significant advantages with it yet.

Again, wait till the game is released, then we'll know for sure.

And I'm saying that if you do that, you potentially waste 120% of your level guage to get like... a whopping 40 damage. The combo I posted I haven't seen yet, but it should be possible, keep in mind that this is just a special variant of the dustloop; one of which I think will reach the corner a bit better than the AC one. All l2BRPs cause slide afaik. There's also one or two more frames added to the hitstun on 5H allowing you to combo 5H into l2BRP voiding the need for the IAD combo if you have the meter and with this I reckon that if you're in the right spot you could do something like a 2S5Hl2BRP loop (which has to be started from 2D or fafnir). As for plain l2BRP in the corner, you can only followup with 5K-> w/e. But it remains wait and see, once we get the patch we'll definitely see what goes and what doesn't go.

That is very good news!

Maybe you shouldn't suggest comboing l2BRP into 2D, especially because l2BRP knockdown as it is. What is more interesting is that you can do stuff like l1GB AC FRC(to level 2) followed by jH-D,djH-D l2BRP 5S jH-D, djH-D l2BRP or similar.

They just want to make us jealous :'(

When I get back home I'll see if there's a patch out yet.

Hey ElvenShadow, do you read pms?:p