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[Xrd] Sol Badguy Okizeme/Mixups/Gimmicks Thread (Updated 02/14/2015)
Nakkiel replied to VR-Raiden's topic in Sol Badguy
You're going to get throw OS'd out of all of those mixups in that video, lol... -
Any Ram players want to talk shop?
Nakkiel replied to PositiveThinking's topic in Ramlethal Valentine
Make a skype group if there isn't one already, those seem to do well nowadays. -
Fuzzy jump out, he has so few options to even catch it lol
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5D is a lot faster than it used to be, you can generally squeeze it in after 5C if your opponent is being complacent or you've scared them with enough frametraps.
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236B midscreen gives you a safe jump. Not worth spending resources on it since the prorate is awful.
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That's not what he's asking. At certain ranges if you do a 214 feint, if the opponent stays on the ground and you fall with j.2B it will cross up.
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You can actually safe jump Yosuke with j.B(1). You just have to do the j.B as late as possible and only get the first hit to connect. This worked in P4A at least, haven't checked in P4U2. Spaced out j.C > zio cancel is useful vs them and you can also make them never want to reversal again with IAD back j.236C CH
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5A > 5C 5B > 2C 5B > backdash cancel > dash 5B stuff into A lion, etc. You can pretty much delay anything he has to frame trap lol
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You don't need CH throw to do RE in the corner, you don't need to do the B+D(1) (214B > RE works) at the end either. It's likely already going to kill since it pretty much always does at least 6K or you're just trying to be cool :P
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It's not a hard concept. Being an incredibly well-rounded character =/= lopsided match ups. Anyways, if you want to say whack shit about my character, take it to her forums at this point before we clutter this thread.
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no #litchisucks get with the program
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lmao what litchi isn't even S-tier in CP and her matchups have never been very lopsided outside of a couple unfortunate characters, the reason she's strong is because she has tools to deal with pretty much every situation and doesn't have unfavorable matchups
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Something being difficult on a handful of characters due to hitboxes does not make it hard to do vs the rest of the cast. Litchi fuzzy doesn't work on some characters and it's more difficult to use on others but I would never DREAM of saying it's hard to do as a general statement.
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Please, I'm not even implying it's unbalanced. Lol. I want the entire BB cast to be closer to the strength of 1.1 top tiers. My point is his mixup is objectively powerful and it augments his pressure to the point where it's terrifying to sit there and block it for any amount of extended time EVEN knowing it will eventually be forced to end. I understand how the character works, I've /played/ RYO, I study this game, lol.
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Here's some food for thought. If Relius didn't have powerful mixup options, why bother guessing to get out of his pressure before he reaches the point where he gets to mix you up? If players are killing themselves (even high level players try to get away) before Relius gets a mixup opportunity, isn't that telling of his mixups effectiveness? This is like basic common logic. :/ Litchi has a grounded 22 frame overhead, Relius has a 12 frame overhead fuzzy setup and a ~18-20f airborne overhead through airdash mixup. But yeah it sucks.
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Fuzzy setup is not really debatable at all, if you have an ounce of execution it takes less than 30 minutes to get down. You're talking about how Relius is quantity > quality and that is whacked because his mixup is great, he has tons of options to use to open you up and they are nearly all effective.
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Alright, since Relius doesn't have good mixup because apparently protected high/lows aren't strong, I guess Litchi's mixup has never been very strong either!!! Covered airdash mixups are some of the strongest there will ever be in fighting games, so I'm absolutely baffled why you think Relius doesn't have excellent offensive options. He even has an extremely easy to use fuzzy guard.
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Then why quote me lol Oh never mind I'm dumb LOL
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NVM I'M STUPID
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ya'll say some wild ass shit lmao
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CH 2B > time 5C > IAD j.A > j.2B > 5C > sj.B > j.C > j.214B does 2521
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His midrange is pretty strong in general and can compete with hers but Litchi has an easy time controlling match pace outside of his 5B range.