mAc Chaos
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I've been trying to rush down Tager as a Hakumen player as a challenge to myself. I've found that it's actually quite possible, although you need magatamas. But if you mess up, then you're fucked.
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What we need is more Nu matchup tactics. :P
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Don't they just teleport? Or can it hit her somehow?
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Hey guys, I don't know if you noticed this, but I realized you can cancel Jin's grabs into other moves while I was messing around in training mode. So, unlike other characters, there's a pause after he grabs them, before they get frozen. You can interrupt the throw before they get frozen with a DP, or that ice arrow super, or even his astral.
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Does using Kishuu to get out of the sword mixup really give you enough time to do anything? Like, say, she goes 5DD, and is about to do 4DD but you Kishuu out. Do you have time to IAD in? What can you do against Nu's that like to fire off some 5DD and then Act Pulsar to the other side to keep mixing it up? If they just keep going back and forth you can't really do anything.
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I prefer the magic explanation. Interesting... when I see a replay usually, it has the players' names, but this has neither.
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Good matches! I think you weren't used to my play style, or something. You were expecting a different Hakumen. (A good one, lol) It seems like our matches all came down to lots of mind games, faking each other out, inching forward, that kind of thing.
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Whoa, you took notes? Sweet. Interesting. I didn't notice that about IADing after burst... Probably just trying to finish the fight. Yeah, I always get 6A'd trying to jump in on fellow Haku players. I need to get used to it; it's something I use if I THINK about it specifically, but it's not instinct yet. I've never really been familiar with any of Carl's loops. You're pretty much the first real Carl player I've ever come across that knows what they're doing. God, those crossups with that freakin' lance...! He jumps weird. Like, you'd jump backwards, then somehow float forward again and hit me. I dunno about the 3C -> 3C -> overhead. It might just be because it was working. I just go by instinct usually. Yeah, I know a lot of random Hakumen players love to air dash, but it's the best way he gets around. Usually I only do it if I think I can do something with it.
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Well, I'm pretty good at using it against Nu. I just do it when I see her lift her arms up; works every time. But she can still super jump over it. So I take it I have to do it INSIDE the special, not right before it?
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Does anyone have a video of that "unescapable" counter special of Hakumen's? Is it true that if you do it at just the right time, even on a projectile, they won't be able to jump away? I'm doing it in training mode and I'm having a hard time telling if it's reacting any faster or not.
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The problem I have with doing Hotaru from the ground is that you have to get real close for it to hit; half the time I just barely miss and get punished. But trying to get that close specifically to do that move ends up with me getting hit too.
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What if you start off with Zantetsu into Renka? Is it worth canceling there too?
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The problem with the jumps though is that her swords just push you back, so you don't actually get closer.
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I noticed a lot of Hakumen players cancel out of the first hit of Renka (214B) into Zantetsu (41236C). Since you're burning the same amount of magatamas, why not let it just do Renka all the way? Or maybe it was Zantetsu canceled into Renka...
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Oh, no wonder. I was testing it's invincibility by trying to Kishuu through 5D. So... Kishuu is good to do once you're actually up close. They'll try a counterattack, and will get hit instead.
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I tried messing around with Kishuu some. I don't get it; what's so good about it? I noticed you can still get hit while in it. I thought it would at least give you some invincibility frames. It doesn't really move you that far forward and leaves you defenseless. Wouldn't it be easier to just walk or jump? I can see using it for combos, but for getting closer...
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Maybe Terumi is just the "Dark Susanooh," like the opposite of Hakumen.
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Yes. The greatest dude.
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Do you guys have any ideas on how to get in on Nu? Hakumen can't really move on the ground; his hop is just asking to eat a 6D, for instance, or something else. So that usually means I have to resort to the air, which works sometimes, but if they use 2C then I just eat a CH on the way down. Is there some way to get around Nu's 2C? Is the air the way to go? Or do you have to slowly advance on the ground? The thing is, I've never had much success trying to slowly work my way in on foot, but the air works. It's just 2C giving me trouble right now. And yeah, IADing in the beginning works out for me usually.
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I understood you, but if you take a moment to make your posts more clear it'll help everyone tell what you mean. Otherwise if someone can't understand you it's the same as if you didn't say anything.
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Yeah, I posted, then re-read what you said and saw that it was basically what I wrote. But to re-iterate, what I said was that the pictures of the Six Heroes looked like it was Hazama after Terumi was revealing himself at the True End, so he was either possessing Hazama BACK THEN (meaning Hazama is old as hell) or it was just Terumi all along. But... who else would it be? It would be kind of random to just introduce a new character he was possessing back then. We're not really sure what the deal with him being a ghost is either, since in some routes he is a ghost, and in others it seems like he's Hazama. Actually, wait. In Rachel's route, don't we see him as a ghost AND as Hazama? In the beginning we see him as a ghost, and then later we see Hazama as Terumi when the world was about to end.
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I don't understand how Terumi could be possessing Hazama, and isn't just Hazama himself. As was previously pointed out, if Hazama was just a normal dude that got possessed, then what was he doing in the past as a member of the Six Heroes? Also, we SEE Hazama being evil and dodgey as if he was Terumi all along in the story mode, before the True End. If you play Rachel's end you see Hazama with an evil golden tint to his eyes, and acting like Terumi, and in the True End you see him reveal himself after Noel leaves. So he wasn't just possessed at the end of the True End...
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That doesn't make sense... we see her in the intro cinematic when she is still in her Nu outfit and she looks way older. And she definitely joins the NOL after that.
