[CS1] Bang Discussion and Question Thread

[rei-Scarred]

Ahhh, i see. I've always been charging in trying to get in as close as i can to get them with a 5A.

What should i use for OKI? 5A or 2A? or should i back up and use 5B?

Thank you for the advice :D

I was wondering why people were slamming the arcade sticks so hard, that makes sense now.

for low hitting oki I'd always go for 5a 2a cause if the 5a hits as well you'll get a bigger combo and it keeps people from auto piloting block one low than block high on wakeup. for more interesting oki stay up close and do 5a 5b than gatling into 5C or 6A. For a quick double low reset 5a 2a 5a 2a. If they are jumping out of this stuff their jump with 5b 6a

Dacidbro I swear by that AA combo but I understand why some people don't like it. It's really not situational at all but if you hit them really high with 5a 5b may whiff. I just adjust accordingly if that happens.

[ShoMeYaMoves]

I don't really see how 5A 5B j.4C j.623B is any different from 5A 5B j.B j.623B as long as you're aware of heights. You shouldn't be using any more than 3 hits before j.623B so you might as well make them the best hits you can.

[Reioumu]

I don't really see how 5A 5B j.4C j.623B is any different from 5A 5B j.B j.623B as long as you're aware of heights. You shouldn't be using any more than 3 hits before j.623B so you might as well make them the best hits you can.

We're talking about that fact that you used 5B in the combo after 5A anti-air.

It's easier to just AA with 5A j.AB j.623B since that works on everyone and at all heights.

[rei-Scarred]

We're talking about that fact that you used 5B in the combo after 5A anti-air.

It's easier to just AA with 5A j.AB j.623B since that works on everyone and at all heights.

Does much more damage though =D

[ShoMeYaMoves]

We're talking about that fact that you used 5B in the combo after 5A anti-air.

It's easier to just AA with 5A j.AB j.623B since that works on everyone and at all heights.

That's actually a really bad idea if they're low or if you caught a jump out. The j.623B will hit them too low so a 5B followup is impossible, if the j.A even lands properly. I think it's better to say that you should do the AA combo appropriate to the given situation rather than sticking to one that doesn't always work properly. No reason not to become familiar with the other combos, either, given the better damage.

[sergetrigger]

I don't post much so im not sure if this question goes in the combo thread or not.

I heard you can tk the astral, if this is true, is it possible to tk it after a fire punch or 6c?

Oh, and does the whole inputting a 540 while doing a ch 2d or 5d not work or something? I used to be able to do it near perfectly in ct.

[Roastbeef]

Hello fellow bang players. I got a FRKZ combo question. I'm a causal player and I don't play as much as I would like to, however I still wanna tighten up my FRKZ combos. Especially this one. FRKZ j.4c loop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T29vTPTYqc0

I was wonder if you guys can explain the loop please? Is is 8 dash -> j.4c land and repeat? or 8 dash -> j.4c -> 2 dash and repeat? I don't get it -_- the rest of the combo in the vid are pretty much auto pilot bang...but it's just that initial start and loop that I don't get.

Thanks in advance.

[TheDarkWall]

Oh crap that vid helps allot. I was doing the attack then 2 dashing then 8 dashing. Looks like you just fall down naturally.

[Reioumu]

Oh crap that vid helps allot. I was doing the attack then 2 dashing then 8 dashing. Looks like you just fall down naturally.

You didn't know I made this video?

/wrists

Also, it's switching between 8-dash and 9-dash. Just look at the distance and with enough practice you'll know which to use.

[Ben Reed]

Hot damn, Roastbeef asked exactly the question I wanted answered. Nice work. Your avatar confuses me, though...can boobs be manly if they're not man boobs?

I have kind of a subquestion regarding the FRKZ BnB; if you just do a basic 3x j. 4C combo (say, 5B 2B 2C xx 6-dash xx immediate 5D, (9-dash j. 4C) x3, j.D, land, etc.), does that work on all characters if you time it right? So far I've only tried it on medium-size characters (mostly Jin/Ragna) and I can make it red all the way to a Daifunka about 50% of the time (I mostly just do the j. 4Cs too fast and end up too high for the j. D to connect). Can I do more or less or is three a good safety number?

[rei-Scarred]

Awesome gimmick I did on accident. Any combo into poison nail land 6B. Can do some funny things to a neutral tech :p.

Also delay slightly after poison nail 6C. 4185 damage air unblockable. Can't really be punished if they back tech.

[Justice7541]

Hot damn, Roastbeef asked exactly the question I wanted answered. Nice work. Your avatar confuses me, though...can boobs be manly if they're not man boobs?

I have kind of a subquestion regarding the FRKZ BnB; if you just do a basic 3x j. 4C combo (say, 5B 2B 2C xx 6-dash xx immediate 5D, (9-dash j. 4C) x3, j.D, land, etc.), does that work on all characters if you time it right? So far I've only tried it on medium-size characters (mostly Jin/Ragna) and I can make it red all the way to a Daifunka about 50% of the time (I mostly just do the j. 4Cs too fast and end up too high for the j. D to connect). Can I do more or less or is three a good safety number?

If you start with 5B, do three j.4C's. If you start with anything else, do two.

[LordSpectreX]

Hey guys, I'm sorta learning Bang at the moment, and I'm having fun, and I feel like I got his pace and style down. However, I have a problem which stops a lot of my BnBs. I'm mainly talking about, where in some combos, Bang does a 623B in the air, and then 5B->2B when they come back down. But I just cannot do it, I do it early, and the 5B whiffs, and if that doesn't, the 2B will. And if I do it to late, they tech. Any advice on how to do this? The timing just seems really strict.

[rlmm26]

for the ones learning bang i have a vid that most will find great while others will just knock it like its garbage but hey so far it seems like im the only one that use's it so if u didn't know how to hit a person with his astral in a serious match it's now known.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_profilepage&v=a1SqrQZJmeY

[IburntTheToast]

does anyone want to help a struggleing bang player, by giving me more ideas on what to do for oki and some blockstrings and stuff like that.... i want to be able to play yhe charater not just combos.

[Reioumu]

for the ones learning bang i have a vid that most will find great while others will just knock it like its garbage but hey so far it seems like im the only one that use's it so if u didn't know how to hit a person with his astral in a serious match it's now known.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_profilepage&v=a1SqrQZJmeY

This has been known for at least 7 months?

[rei-Scarred]

hahaha Dacidbro just did that at NCI2.

[njmamm]

Using it as an unblockable from a midscreen throw pre-kick isn't so bad either right?

[Dacidbro]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CtS0N9rDZs#t=2m22s

I'd like to thank the academy

EDIT: Mid screen, pre kick, it's only a true inescapable setup on tager, all other characters can just not tech and slump under it.

[gByakko]

Quick post: http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?8378-CS-Arakune-Vs-Shishigami-Bangu

Somewhat ironically, Dacidbro's advice for Ara's helped me become a better Bang by basically putting the options in perspective. You can try and see what you get out of it.

[kilabeep3]

ok ill start you off in a lil bit.

bang is a very powerful character this time around but to use this character well is to know what he has in every given moment.

for defense you have guard points and teleports, aa A nails, and D nails.

5a as an anti air and 5b as meaty will beat a lot of things out.

there are more things that you can use just find one that fits your playstyle.

his mobility is his best weapon use that shit!

mixup your opponent and keep him guessing on what your going to do,once they are good and scared then you pile on more pressure for your shennanigans to ensue.

use overheads sparingly BUT use them cause i know i can catch somone slipping once ive got them trained to block low. as it can lead to 5k damage and more oki pressure.

learn to bait DPs with bang against people that have em cause this will be a deal breaker cause ragna, jin, makoto, tsubaki, and hazamas super can put you in a bad situation bangs defense isnt all that great so once they have you learn to get out and get back in their face.

oh and play SMART dont just throw nails away all willy nilly you might need them and you onlu have 12....use it wiseley.

and watch nezu, dora ( before he went stupid), and even some dacidbro play and use it as a buildingblock to your own playstyle. i personally play like dora cause i like to bullshit a lot and usually ends up costing me the match but who cares? im having fun.

[ZONG_one]

Don't watch the 3rd player he mentioned for ideas.

Nigga ain't even Japanese.

[Dacidbro]

He said "some", I think there's merit to that. I do things the Japanese don't, and you can watch me to see some things not to do (like don't not tech grabs).

AND, I invented the Dacidbro cross under, the Japanese picked it up a month later. I can take that to the bank.

[ZONG_one]

AND, I invented the Dacidbro cross under, the Japanese picked it up a month later. I can take that to the bank.

...just to have the check bounce.

We're about a month and a half behind even seeing their vids.

They had it half a month before you, then. :P

MUAHAHAHAHA d'oh hoho ho ho.

[Dacidbro]

Nope, cause they're dated. I checked the date of the videos. :]