Emerald Posted May 27, 2010 Posted May 27, 2010 Those Videos I think prove a lot of the disappointment with Rachel in CS. I know we all know she is D tier but it was really depressing watching those Rachel players play amazing and get nothing for their efforts. That Black and White Rachel played fantastic a lot of those matches but just couldn't eek out wins against some people. It felt like her damage was non existent. But when Bang or Tao got those BIG damage combos and she lost over half her health.....sadness to work so hard and get nothing when it looked like Rachel played the better game overall. Now when that Default Rachel Perfected that Bang though
kro_ Posted May 27, 2010 Posted May 27, 2010 Thanks for linking that set Rhannmah. Actually some new stuff there. That Rachel was doing really well until Bang wised up and mashed 5a during her 4bs. He gave up a ton of damage in favor of stronger oki and was generally successful most of the time. But if you go that route, you'll probably have to land 5-6 combos to kill the opponent rather than the 4 or so if you go for a max damage/zoning style. I wonder whether Bang's new reversal super would have reached or not whenever Rachel ended an air combo with j.2c and meaty 236a. Did he think it just wasn't worth the meter or is it actually too far? And would 236a recover in time if Bang did Daifunka instead on wakeup?
Soniti Posted May 28, 2010 Author Posted May 28, 2010 Thanks for linking that set Rhannmah. Actually some new stuff there. That Rachel was doing really well until Bang wised up and mashed 5a during her 4bs. He gave up a ton of damage in favor of stronger oki and was generally successful most of the time. But if you go that route, you'll probably have to land 5-6 combos to kill the opponent rather than the 4 or so if you go for a max damage/zoning style. I wonder whether Bang's new reversal super would have reached or not whenever Rachel ended an air combo with j.2c and meaty 236a. Did he think it just wasn't worth the meter or is it actually too far? And would 236a recover in time if Bang did Daifunka instead on wakeup? I've tested the 236a oki against Ranga and he can DP punish it every time.. The same probably applies to Daifunka.
Rhannmah Posted May 28, 2010 Posted May 28, 2010 More A-Cho casuals http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kF_P3zCWdV0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnxVh3Arx90 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1_nEW0TQCs First substantial winning streak I've ever seen
God_Of_Olympus Posted May 29, 2010 Posted May 29, 2010 best rachel win streak and the player wasn't even that good....
Alex073088 Posted May 29, 2010 Posted May 29, 2010 why was every player falling for empty j.2c+3d after frog set in the corner?
Rhannmah Posted May 29, 2010 Posted May 29, 2010 Because it's a really good mixup. You can do many things after you get the pumpkin and frog out on a corner knockdown. You can do 3d-2b, 3d-j.b, 3d-j.2c, 3d-empty jump-2b, 3d-j.b-4b, 3d-empty jump-4b, etc. The possibilities are extremely varied, all the while you force your opponent to block the 3d pumpkin and George that activates. Also I really gawked at the guard crush setup he did on that Carl, it did so much damage. I think he would've been better off not barrier blocking and just taking the guard crush.
Melbshaw Posted May 30, 2010 Posted May 30, 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnxVh3Arx90&feature=related GAMEacho Rachel vs Tager/Carl/Bang
Rhannmah Posted May 31, 2010 Posted May 31, 2010 http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm10910289 http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm10910739 Omitan and Dora are teaming up in this tougeki qualifiers (at least I THINK that's what's going on)
GenoWhirl Posted May 31, 2010 Posted May 31, 2010 Oh look a Rachel doing those combos I was ranting about 4 seconds ago
Alex073088 Posted June 1, 2010 Posted June 1, 2010 looking at those vids its like no matter how hard you work you really cant compete with the other characters, i really think taokaka match is much harder then 6-4, you cant zone her at all. and you can barely lock her down from running around all over the place like that.
EvilWolf Posted June 1, 2010 Posted June 1, 2010 More A-Cho casuals http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kF_P3zCWdV0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnxVh3Arx90 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1_nEW0TQCs First substantial winning streak I've ever seen Holy shit that Rachel is nice
Rhannmah Posted June 2, 2010 Posted June 2, 2010 see http://gamechariot.com/g3_100322_2nd.html there's H.H who plays Rachel in one of the files down the list
kirbster Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 That was absolutely sick, I loved the midscreen wallbounce into BBLx2. Though he seemed pretty helpless against that Lambda...
EvilWolf Posted June 5, 2010 Posted June 5, 2010 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- High level BBCS Rachel players: Matsu (マツ), Omitan, Aoniku (青肉) Players confirmed to have ditched Rachel cause they are shallow and won't date lolis in wheelchairs, along with who they use (from videos): MSY [Ranga], H.H [Litchi, alts Rachel], Eru (える) [bang] Lol just noticed this. You forgot Shadow. And MSY is a terrible loss. see http://gamechariot.com/g3_100322_2nd.html there's H.H who plays Rachel in one of the files down the list Hmm anyone know if who those japanese people in the picture is, like Kaqn, Buppa, etc?
Soniti Posted June 5, 2010 Author Posted June 5, 2010 I always ignored Shadow. He had good footsies but his combo usage was horrendous.
Gil Posted June 5, 2010 Posted June 5, 2010 Same here, never liked Shadow. I just figured I didn't like his play style or something, Matsu and MSY were much better imo.
mAc Chaos Posted June 6, 2010 Posted June 6, 2010 DeadlyMagnes I uploaded your video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMVxbQ3axTo Help him out folks. ARAKUNE
killionaire Posted June 6, 2010 Posted June 6, 2010 DeadlyMagnes I uploaded your video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMVxbQ3axTo Help him out folks. ARAKUNE This is for CS videos dood.. As the other threads are in the archive, I'd say it's best to stuff this one in the sanctuary. Be sure not to catch the contagion.
EvilWolf Posted June 7, 2010 Posted June 7, 2010 Hmm I thought Shadow had pretty nice combos...but MSY was the best.
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