GG:AC Official Tier List Thread

[Chomite]

Stefan// I have no idea. I think that sometimes it's considered higer rank in certain situations I guess? For example, Johnny's Oki sucks. But if he successfully mist the opponent, then it works in Johnny favor. I think that's what +/- signs mean. 4r5// It's in discussion it says so -_-;; Yap... Crimson// I agree. Sol does ridiculous amount of damage with his sidewinder loops. I have no idea why Sol would ranked so low. Maybe there are other reasons.

[chun_li1]

Stefan// I have no idea. I think that sometimes it's considered higer rank in certain situations I guess? For example, Johnny's Oki sucks. But if he successfully mist the opponent, then it works in Johnny favor. I think that's what +/- signs mean.

4r5// It's in discussion it says so -_-;; Yap...

Crimson// I agree. Sol does ridiculous amount of damage with his sidewinder loops. I have no idea why Sol would ranked so low. Maybe there are other reasons.

Maybe the factor, where when can you do this damage, get the chance to do it, is included in there.

[AtTheGates]

johnny only C in air to ground? chipp A in okizeme? oh come on..

[CrimsonDisaster]

shrug the "average damage" list seems pretty arbitrary. But whatever. I'm sure things would make more sense if we knew what was going on in the discussions going into these lists. It'd be interesting to hear the mindset behind the rankings, at the very least. Oh well... it's not like there's anything particularly different about those character rankings... just a few weird things, like S rank Ky, Slayer in the same poke rank as Dizzy (though that rank also includes like half the cast), etc.

[低姿勢]

Seems like a pretty bogus thing(this all)to me. Where exactly is this translate from? Sounds to me, people takeing random things, with out everything into consideration. Like you looking at a random thread, and seeing random people posting something and then takeing it as fact. Or not takeing everything into consideration. Cuz umm yea alot of this seems pretty bogus... How the fuck is eddie the best character in max damage? That doesnt even make sence. Unless it counts unblockables. And certainly how the fuck do you consider that max damage? Obviously sol should be in the top tier, he can kill you with one combo basicly. So yea maximum damage ah.... whatever.. Yea alot of this stuff seems iffy... I guess granted I dun browse/skim japanese stuff really anymore like when the game came out.. But alot of thi ssounds pretty stupid. Whatever the case yea ill assume this is flawed somewhere in what the person was translateing as something is up with it. Also wtf in one of the lists ky is top tier? Yea I think its obvious from reading that people just looked at something random and was just throwing it all togther. Yawn anyway....

[Hellmonkey]

It's not bogus, all that stuff is the most recent on the Japanese BBS, and it's taking a bunch of people's views into account. That's not to say it's accurate, that stuff is constantly changing, but tons of discussion goes into making those. As for max damage, Eddie already does a lot without the unblockables, so especially if they factor those in as well as stunning he makes S rank easy.

[Chomite]

Seems like a pretty bogus thing(this all)to me. Where exactly is this translate from? Sounds to me, people takeing random things, with out everything into consideration. Like you looking at a random thread, and seeing random people posting something and then takeing it as fact. Or not takeing everything into consideration. Cuz umm yea alot of this seems pretty bogus...

How the fuck is eddie the best character in max damage? That doesnt even make sence. Unless it counts unblockables. And certainly how the fuck do you consider that max damage? Obviously sol should be in the top tier, he can kill you with one combo basicly. So yea maximum damage ah.... whatever..

Yea alot of this stuff seems iffy... I guess granted I dun browse/skim japanese stuff really anymore like when the game came out.. But alot of thi ssounds pretty stupid.

Whatever the case yea ill assume this is flawed somewhere in what the person was translateing as something is up with it. Also wtf in one of the lists ky is top tier? Yea I think its obvious from reading that people just looked at something random and was just throwing it all togther. Yawn anyway....

Well, go to Japanese BBS and see for yourself then. Don't blame the translator

[Digital Watches]

I agree somewhat with clayton that the other lists sound dubious, but the tier list itself makes sense to me. Do they have a matchup chart?

[Hellmonkey]

From what I gathered from their previous threads, they ranked every character's seperate strengths character by character, and this was the overall result. As for the reasonings behind it all, I am too lazy to go through and see.

[AtTheGates]

could anyone link the original source, please?

[Hellmonkey]

http://jbbs.livedoor.jp/bbs/read.cgi/game/34745/1195436162/

[Chomite]

oh thx @_@/ I'm reading it right now and there are logics behind these tier list. I'm ok with it.

[Chomite]

Anyone wants to post the each charater's rank list? I'm looking at them right now but it's via japanese translator so some parts don't make much sense like certain character's move names...(even though it's amazingly good translator.)

[Rift]

So is "average damage" something like Abare? Because if so, I would like to say that Johnny needs to go up a few ranks for sure.

[Chomite]

-_- Hell no. Johnny sucks at abare. HE NEEDS COIN. no coin? Then he can't do even 100 damage off anything.

[POscrub]

Lazy is great. I HATE YOU ALL. Eddie: Average damage S: Rank drops against people you can't dizzy. Max damage: S. Eddie is the king of running set plays [unblockables into more unblockables!] Not really all that different from his average damage stuff, but still overwhelmingly buff. S+! Sol: Average damage B: Combos involving CL Sidewinders can do around 40-50%, Grand Viper leads into an air combo for no tension. More opportunities to land air combos. Max damage C: Not even taking into account forced proration, CL Sidewinder loop does about 60%. So the implication being yes they are counting the unblockables, and even DIZZY damage? Woo. Sol apparently loses points for forced proration on probably 2K and Wild Throw? And having tension doesn't really add much I guess. My guess is max damage implies you have spare tension lying around, and say the other guy has X health left, can you peace him out here and now? Chomite: Which part you want? Maybe I'm just tired, but I'm not getting it.

[Chomite]

oh! Could you translate Johnny part? I get the idea but there are weird words popping up @_@;; Thx!

[POscrub]

Johnny: +Average damage C: Does crap damage if he hasn't landed a coin yet. Lvl 2 Low Mist finer is his combo mainstay. +Max damage A: Air combos that involve Killer Joker FRC can deal up to 60% damage. [but I thought Sol does 60%... tensionless!!] +Pokes B+: 5K, 5H is even decent against air, good reach + good priority 6H, MF, Ensenga +Pressure B+: Good reach and decent priority both on the ground and in the air. At his best when the opponent is at midrange. +Mixup (options) C: Couple measly low hits, TK ensenga, Throw, High in the air DB FRC (bait AA) +Okizeme C: Lots you can do after Enkasu (1 hit Ensenga), but you probably only have level 1 Mistfiner [so lots of options but they're all equally lousy] +Against ground C: j. HS, Divine Blade FRC, TK (low air) Ensenga +Against air B: 6P, HS, Upper Mistfiner +Ability to break out [of pressure] D: If they're close to you, not much you can do. 2HS is favoured. [if you're gonna try] +Defense (physically) B: Good defense modifier (takes slightly less than average). Tends to be hard to air combo. +In general B: Good at zoning/taking up space、Dash makes it easy to throw, not easy to get a combo in (on Johnny? guess). +Overall rank: C +Best matchup Order Sol: 5K,HS shutdown a lot of Order Sol's options。 Order Sol has a low jump, so 5H can pull double duty easily (doubles as an antiair). Can be beaten by Order Sol's 2D, but it's slower than regular Sol's, so it's not particularly fearsome。 +Worst Matchup Potemkin: No way out of the Giganter Trap.

[Chomite]

oh sweet! Thanks a bunch for the translations. It's much clearer to understand @_@/

[Hellmonkey]

poscrub to the rescue

[TITANIUM BEAST!!!]

Could you possibly do all of Sol's and Order-Sol's stuff as well? I'm curious as to what they'd say about HOS especially.

[Darkhonor90]

Ky's wouldn't hurt either ;P

[Iruel]

HOS especially.

Glad someone with clout asked... And how many accolades might POscrub desire: one? two?(three is a bit much, but still do-able)

[CrimsonDisaster]

lol Johnny's 60% combos are more damaging than Sol's 60% combos?? D:

[Chomite]

Shrug. Who knows.