BlackYakuzu94 Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 They might be super jumping a bit higher when Hotaru comes out, I know I've done it.
Raziul Posted October 13, 2013 Posted October 13, 2013 (edited) Why are there two versions of Hakumen? Edited October 13, 2013 by Raziul
Raziul Posted October 13, 2013 Posted October 13, 2013 Well, there's the god character everyone else got. And then there's the POS I got apparently. I don't understand why the same stuff that works for everyone else doesn't work for me, especially considering the amount of time I've invested in this character. There's some inexplicable force that makes it so that every time I press a button, Hakumen whiffs or gets counter hit/grabbed. It's damn near magical how much BS I've seen happen with this character.
Wander Posted October 14, 2013 Posted October 14, 2013 If you can, maybe Put some of your matches in the critique thread
BlackYakuzu94 Posted October 14, 2013 Posted October 14, 2013 Well, there's the god character everyone else got. And then there's the POS I got apparently. I don't understand why the same stuff that works for everyone else doesn't work for me, especially considering the amount of time I've invested in this character. There's some inexplicable force that makes it so that every time I press a button, Hakumen whiffs or gets counter hit/grabbed. It's damn near magical how much BS I've seen happen with this character. Its just learning from your matchup experience, I'll tell you now I'm nowhere near as good as some of the other people here. also, I tried Mac oki yesterday...jesus that works too well.
mAc Chaos Posted October 14, 2013 Posted October 14, 2013 (edited) You started pretty recently, right? Well, I would drop the idea of "time = skill" anyway. It is less about how much time you put in and more about learning the right methods, which just happens to take time. I've been playing Haku since the first BB and I still have plenty to improve on. Most others are from around that era too, so you shouldn't really expect to have the same results as us yet. It took me 4 games to get to where I am. Edited October 14, 2013 by mAc Chaos
Raziul Posted October 14, 2013 Posted October 14, 2013 Sorry about the whining, it's just my frustrations bleeding out to where it doesn't need to be. I think I've discovered what my problem has been. I've been staying in place too much, making it easier for my opponents to time and space their attacks. Realizing I need to stay mobile to make it harder for them seems to be making quite a difference.
BladeOfJustice7 Posted October 14, 2013 Posted October 14, 2013 Well, there's the god character everyone else got. And then there's the POS I got apparently. I don't understand why the same stuff that works for everyone else doesn't work for me, especially considering the amount of time I've invested in this character. There's some inexplicable force that makes it so that every time I press a button, Hakumen whiffs or gets counter hit/grabbed. It's damn near magical how much BS I've seen happen with this character. An outsiders perspective can help, can you get some of your matches on youtube or somethingIf you can, either post them in the Hakumen Critique thread, or personally message me links to your matches. I can provide feedback and personal advice on where and what you're doing wrong that prevents you from excelling with hakumen. You can also message mAc or dioxide too.
Raziul Posted October 15, 2013 Posted October 15, 2013 I'm doing a lot better today. I think the core of my problems was that my gameplay was too stationary. Now that I'm adding in double jumps and more instant air dashes, I'm seeing a lot more success. Hakumen's general lack of priority seemed to exasperate that issue for me. Now if I could just quit choking on those overheads...
BladeOfJustice7 Posted October 15, 2013 Posted October 15, 2013 I'm certain your self-perceived "lack of priority" on his normals is attributed to poor spacing. He is a very spacing heavy character, if you don't know how to space your normals/specials you'll get eaten up like fried plantain. That's why I asked if you could show me your matches, but if you're already seeing progress in your playstyle then that's good. EDIT: Due to my playstyle of being very spacing oriented, this is how I feel playing against dioxide: ^thought I should just put that out there for her. She's hulk btw.
someonewhodied Posted October 15, 2013 Posted October 15, 2013 why is it that when I yolo my counters, they always work, but when I actually try to land specific ones they don't?
mAc Chaos Posted October 15, 2013 Posted October 15, 2013 It's all fun and games until it's curse into GG.
- Stasis - Posted October 16, 2013 Posted October 16, 2013 I know you guys already know this but... HOTARU IS FAWKING AMAZING!!!! I mean, I never knew had this power, it's incredible! no more anti airs when I dash in, no more tech grab from opponents (during strings/dash up, options) because they're afraid I might TK Hotaru, no more buttons after corner J.C (air recovery) cause I can anti air them with Hotaru, no more DPS... just no more. my win rate has increase by 60% just from adding this move to my arsenal. now, how do I land TK Fatal, dash J.C, 5C? I can land 5B all the time, but 5C just doesn't want to hit.
Nemesis Posted October 16, 2013 Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) Well as it stands Mac seems less interested in early CP acquisition, anyone here comparable skill wise? Or am I gonna get the same *hides* response I got last time I challenged the whole of the hakumen forums for more ppls to fight. CP will be a dreary place w/o a hakumen to step up and 6b on ppls dreams I felt this belonged here as its technically a question about hakumen ( players ). Edited October 16, 2013 by Nemesis
mAc Chaos Posted October 16, 2013 Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) CP will be a dreary place w/o a hakumen to step up and 6b on ppls dreams I like this mental image. EDIT: Due to my playstyle of being very spacing oriented, this is how I feel playing against dioxide: ^thought I should just put that out there for her. She's hulk btw. Now you make me want to play you again. We should have a rematch sometime. I know you guys already know this but... HOTARU IS FAWKING AMAZING!!!! I mean, I never knew had this power, it's incredible! no more anti airs when I dash in, no more tech grab from opponents (during strings/dash up, options) because they're afraid I might TK Hotaru, no more buttons after corner J.C (air recovery) cause I can anti air them with Hotaru, no more DPS... just no more. my win rate has increase by 60% just from adding this move to my arsenal. now, how do I land TK Fatal, dash J.C, 5C? I can land 5B all the time, but 5C just doesn't want to hit. Not sure what combo you mean. You want to 2C, not 5C. Edited October 16, 2013 by mAc Chaos
someonewhodied Posted October 16, 2013 Posted October 16, 2013 I'll be up there in about 6 months of experience :v. I'm already cutting peoples' bursts along with their dreams.
- Stasis - Posted October 16, 2013 Posted October 16, 2013 Not sure what combo you mean. You want to 2C, not 5C. I meant to say mid screen Fatal TK Hotaru, land, IAD, J.2C, land, 5C I can't get the 5C to hit, but I can always land 5B. is there some trick to this? also, I'm waiting for them to be as close to the floor as possible
BladeOfJustice7 Posted October 16, 2013 Posted October 16, 2013 eb makes me aggresive :o Well as it stands Mac seems less interested in early CP acquisition, anyone here comparable skill wise? Or am I gonna get the same *hides* response I got last time I challenged the whole of the hakumen forums for more ppls to fight. CP will be a dreary place w/o a hakumen to step up and 6b on ppls dreams I felt this belonged here as its technically a question about hakumen ( players ). I don't think anyone with a Hakumen award besides myself is getting the game. SO i'll take on your challenge. Now you make me want to play you again. We should have a rematch sometime. I'm free this week, I only watch anime on my xbox at this point. So hit me up whenever that happens. I'll be up there in about 6 months of experience :v. I'm already cutting peoples' bursts along with their dreams. Have you begun to cut down their aspirations as well. That's the next step to bring your Hakumen game to the next level, dreams AND aspirations must be eliminated.
mAc Chaos Posted October 16, 2013 Posted October 16, 2013 I'm free this week, I only watch anime on my xbox at this point. So hit me up whenever that happens. Tonight... you.
dioxideUniversa Posted October 16, 2013 Posted October 16, 2013 I don't think anyone with a Hakumen award besides myself is getting the game. SO i'll take on your challenge. i am getting it but i probably wouldn't be much of a challenge at that level of play
Saeor12 Posted October 16, 2013 Posted October 16, 2013 i am getting CP as well. i don't consider myself to be very good however, but i'm for playing more people.
BlackYakuzu94 Posted October 16, 2013 Posted October 16, 2013 I won't be able to even practice that much until December...and then I'm all yours Nemesis.
Nemesis Posted October 16, 2013 Posted October 16, 2013 well I must say this is a better reception than last time... there may be some hope yet as to molding a new hakumen player that can give cause for online tears and woe
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