Guilty Gear 2: Overture released

[Blackgenma]

good news for those of you who care about the GG2 video thread.

if all you guys want are some cool videos to watch, you in luck!

I gathered plenty of new videos.

some of the old ones will be missing still, but some of those I can't do anything about. (kimera's old videos have terrible quality now, I can't do anything about that, and they are no longer worth watching. it's a terrible shame, but we will have to do without them.)

expect it to come back around a week or two the latest.

combo video will be limited to the nocturnal rites combo video, and I'll try to put up Sin's commands again (since I lost them) and as a bonus, Izuna's commands (I'll try anyway). if anyone's got a video they want me to make inputs for, I'll try to add it.

I actually have problem watching videos on my personal computer, that's why I have been taking a while to make this list again. patience please.

Edit: fortunately, Kimera has added a few videos recently, and he finally picks up valentine again. good for you guys who are sick of seeing Sol all the time (I never get sick of seeing him though)

[Ayumu Gardevoir]

Valentine <3

[Blackgenma]

my FAQ in gamefaqs is up. the version here on the boards will probably no longer be updated. the video thread will be back, and continuously updated once it is up. the next two weeks, expect the video thread back up in the next two weeks.

[Blackgenma]

UH -OH!! I think I just found a method of taking SCREEN SHOTS! WOOT! that means I can write guides for each map!....potentially. will test this Idea out. quality of screen shots not guaranteed. what format and how I will make these guide all depends on...stuff. we'll see.

[danceljoy]

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[Ayumu Gardevoir]

*needs to learn how to play Underworld Hill better*

[Fenrir Werwolf]

UH -OH!!

I think I just found a method of taking SCREEN SHOTS!

--->Need to know :3

[Blackgenma]

ok, so you guys want to find out my SUPER AWESOME way of taking screen shots?

well? huh? DO YA?

ok....listen up.

first, go to a video web site.

than, find a GG2 game play video someone up loaded, and doesn't have garbage quality.

center the screen, stop the video where you want to take a screen shot, and press (ctrl + print screen) thats hold the ctrl key and press the "print screen" key. you computer will save a screen shot.

than go to ms paint or whatever, paste the screen shot, high light the video section, cut, open a new one, don't save, and than paste on the new sheet.

and the results..

[Ayumu Gardevoir]

... :V you don't need to hit ctrl. Just Prnt Scrn. Well you do need to hit ctrl in ctrl+V but that's it, maybe ctrl+S for save if you do it that way.

[Ayumu Gardevoir]

... :V

you don't need to hit ctrl. Just Prnt Scrn. Well you do need to hit ctrl in ctrl+V but that's it, maybe ctrl+S for save if you do it that way.

Then you could probably get Xithmos to get you just screens of the map, not with all the stuff on it, maybe even of the map itself, in 720p/1080p for you. If he's willing and will actually do it.

Edit: whoops hit Quote instead of Edit for my first post :V

[Blackgenma]

I doubt he'd actually do it for me if I asked him. I don't trust him, so I won't bother him about it. and yes, I know my method of taking screen shots is backwards. cut me some slack, its better than nothing....

[Ayumu Gardevoir]

Yeah, I know, but I'm just throwing ideas up in the air.

[Blackgenma]

been watching Kimera's new videos, and I've seen him using the Gigant A LOT for defense, and he doesn't give it any upgrades besides the mobile one. and for the most part, it does its job rather well. most players never use that thing. and if they do, they have no Idea what to use it for. go Gigant. Kimera's style of playing Sol is very peculiar. effective, but peculiar. I wonder why he plays Sol so much now instead of Valentine. Valentine is probably the superior character of the two. maybe because its fun beating stuff up I guess. the way he handles his units and mana is so unique. he released the Gigant on first round in one match, he decided to lose some ground to help his failing partner, so his priority was on defense. I question that decision, but at least his partner didn't lose EVERY ghost because of it. I should probably be more of a team player, kimera has no qualms helping his buddy, even if it means losing ground for himself. as for the results of that match, I didn't see the end of it. yet. will do. so yeah, I'm hoping to get my thread up by the end of this week. the new combo video inputs may be delayed but whatever. just want to toss out there that the videos I put in the thread aren't random, I watch for quality.

[Ayumu Gardevoir]

I don't know man http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MTb9JEBZi8 is my favorite GG2 video ever. EVER.

[Xithmos]

I doubt he'd actually do it for me if I asked him. I don't trust him, so I won't bother him about it.

and yes, I know my method of taking screen shots is backwards. cut me some slack, its better than nothing....

Well. That hurts a tad bit.

[Ayumu Gardevoir]

Aww, I'm still here for you <3

[Blackgenma]

Well. That hurts a tad bit.

I'm not saying personally, because I don't know you personally. I meant it as in if I ask you to do something, I don't think you will follow through. it just means I'd rather do things myself than rely on someone else. it's not like I'm gonna turn you down for a match or whatever.

I actually did not hesitate posting that because I assumed you stopped coming here. I did not say that to offend you.

[Xithmos]

Aww, I'm still here for you <3

>_>;

Congrats on making the first FAQ for the Guilty Gear 2 forms at Gamefaqs.com, tobal.

[Blackgenma]

thanks.

I'm thinking of placing a small 2 vs 2 and points match section for it, but I'm not sure exactly what I would write in it yet. will get on that eventually.

people send me emails asking if they can host my guide at their site. like hell I'm going to let them do that!

EDIT: for my personal reference.

page 121 in this thread has nico video links and GG2 jp wikipedia

[Blackgenma]

double post.

came across some very interesting data here.

http://www12.atwiki.jp/guiltygear2/pages/31.html

it turns out, ranged units are actually weak to mobile. that means

Mobile > Armor, magic, range.

Mobile is a very powerful class.

WHY DOES SOL HAVE NO MOBILE!!!! he's got a real good mobile elite and a good mobile minion, but no low-level mobile unit. crap.

but check out the link I posted. it has specific data on advantages and disadvantages of each unit. worth a read, with the broken English translator I used.

theres also a "compatibility chart" and some videos on the bottom of the page. I don't understand the chart though. if anyone can tell me what the chart suggest, I'd be very interested. I think what it means is maybe some units gets bonuses from being paired together? I don't know.

apparently, master vs servants attack damage is a little different as well.

the master deals 200% damage to servants. servants deal 125% damage to masters

seems range servants are an exception, doing 200% damage to masters. so I guess you can say range is an anti master class, I guess. no wonder those damn twin triggers do so much damage.

this is all very interesting stuff. I'm going to have to check out those videos at the bottom of the page later.

EDIT:man, this GG2 wiki has SOOO much to it.

we are so behind as a community here in the U.S. lol.

also, there's a section just for helping beginner chose a character. they say don't worry about which character is strong or weak, the updates have made the gap between characters much smaller. nice. so in other words, no tier list.

[PandaKingEX]

It's ok to not count on Xithmos for anything, since he offered to make a video for a game he recommended to me. Something that probably would have taken 10 minutes, but of course that never happened. As for Sol having no mobile. I think he would be too over the top with a mobile. Sol is a fast paced character, and having a normal servant that could get around fast as well could make him quite overwhelming. Sol already starts most fights off with an advantage, since he can kill servants more efficiently then the other characters, so if he wasn't lacking a servant type, then he wouldn't have as much of a weakness when it comes to servants. Just like Valentine not having a regular armor servant. Her servants inflict a lot of very annoying status effects that make it very difficult to fight them in large numbers, but the obvious weakness to this is that they die quickly. If she had armor units mixed with all her magic and ranged units, it would be practically impossible to approach that army with any sort of efficiency.

[NeoVid]

thanks.

I'm thinking of placing a small 2 vs 2 and points match section for it, but I'm not sure exactly what I would write in it yet. will get on that eventually.

The thing I think would be most useful to add would be a list of item effects. I know when I was starting out, I'd have no clue about the importance of items if JJJ hadn't told me he'd beaten me so fast entirely because of Capture Cannons.

Also, he learned from fighting JP players that if you want to guarantee a kill on a Master, use Mouth Zipper and Heavy Feet.

...And we need to put together an english version of that wiki.

[Blackgenma]

The thing I think would be most useful to add would be a list of item effects. I know when I was starting out, I'd have no clue about the importance of items if JJJ hadn't told me he'd beaten me so fast entirely because of Capture Cannons.

Also, he learned from fighting JP players that if you want to guarantee a kill on a Master, use Mouth Zipper and Heavy Feet.

...And we need to put together an english version of that wiki.

I mention the importance of capture cannon and other items in the FAQ I wrote. the player can experiment with items at their leisure, especially since al items are explained at the rules menu when you pause the game.

not enough demand for me to work on such a trivial thing. besides, if you play online, you will find out on your own won't you?

if you want to make that wiki English, BE MY GUEST. I'm fine using a translator thank you.

It's ok to not count on Xithmos for anything, since he offered to make a video for a game he recommended to me. Something that probably would have taken 10 minutes, but of course that never happened.

As for Sol having no mobile. I think he would be too over the top with a mobile. Sol is a fast paced character, and having a normal servant that could get around fast as well could make him quite overwhelming. Sol already starts most fights off with an advantage, since he can kill servants more efficiently then the other characters, so if he wasn't lacking a servant type, then he wouldn't have as much of a weakness when it comes to servants.

Just like Valentine not having a regular armor servant. Her servants inflict a lot of very annoying status effects that make it very difficult to fight them in large numbers, but the obvious weakness to this is that they die quickly. If she had armor units mixed with all her magic and ranged units, it would be practically impossible to approach that army with any sort of efficiency.

yeah I figured that from the izuna combo video he said he would do. two weeks was more than enough time.

you make a good point regarding the units of Sol. I never thought how sol would be if he had if he had mobiles. but if they did give him mobiles, they could balance them by making those mobiles suck, like the rest of his units. hunchback is a mobile, and it's not fast, just rapes armors and magics. Valentine's mobile isn't fast either.

but don't mind me, just doing complaining. the game is relatively balance.

[Xithmos]

I'm terribly sorry about that Panda. I've been busy with ACT prep and studying for finals. I won't be able to do it Saturday and Sunday since I gotta finish a project for Math. Plus, I wanted to get a 4 player game going in Borderlands so you could see the online portion of it, but no one else has it on my friends list. I'll make it for you tomorrow, since I'm totally free then. EDIT: Plus, after a week I offered to make the video, my software for my capture card stopped working, so I couldn't have tried to make it anyway. Luckily I got it fixed last weekend.

[Sol.Badguy]

I doubt he'd actually do it for me if I asked him. I don't trust him,

It's ok to not count on Xithmos for anything, since he offered to make a video for a game he recommended to me. Something that probably would have taken 10 minutes, but of course that never happened.

yeah I figured that from the izuna combo video he said he would do. two weeks was more than enough time.

Holy Sh*t guys, give Xithmos a break, is the Izuna combo video THAT important? And don't say anything about "it's the principle" because in the end, it's just a game.

you make a good point regarding the units of Sol. I never thought how sol would be if he had if he had mobiles. but if they did give him mobiles, they could balance them by making those mobiles suck, like the rest of his units. hunchback is a mobile, and it's not fast, just rapes armors and magics. Valentine's mobile isn't fast either.

but don't mind me, just doing complaining. the game is relatively balance.

Maybe it's just because I haven't played GG2 since kickingark got off, but I agree that Sol should at least have weak mobile, than none at all. Comparing Sol with mobile to Valantine with armor is ridiculous if you ask me. Valentine doesn't need armor, Sol does need mobile. I agree the game is relatively balanced, but sadly, only if you ignore Sol . Of course he does have the advantage at the start, but if you don't finish it relatively quickly after that it's got no where to go but down hill. Nothings better than waiting 30 minutes for 1 match to know that you've got a relatively bad chance of winning:vbang:.