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R-1 and a new loop being used in combat? Good day indeed.

Also, I never noticed how good the second hit wall bounce of 6C is. Not only does the second hit knock the opponent from far midscreen into the corner, it can still be followed up.

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Those Noels were pretty free, I liked how the first guy played, but he couldn't combo for shit.

rapid cancel > walk to steps forward > grab. This Noel knows no fear!

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looks like Fenrir's missile doesn't do a guaranteed 1k, but it looks like its around 900, which is still a significant buff.

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R-1 trying to work with the new haida loop in tourney, rarely completing it, and still winning.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDqNGi8iM3c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnIAORouDqw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJVGQeh2Y4U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAr3joqJLtA

P.S. - this was a 2v2 that he entered by himself.

and won.

In the 3rd video VS the Tager player, you can see that 5B has a much improved hitbox. Looks like we're back to CT's range for the 5B hitbox, but I haven't seen any indication that its disjointed like CT. I'm only commenting on the range.

I'm assuming 6C is faster as well, with that nifty 6C BC loop R1 does vs Tager. That, or more untechable time or BC is faster on whiff. Lots of possibilities.

Another consideration: 3C's proration has changed... or 6C or 2C's proration has changed. In BBCS1, 6B 3C Haida loop is better than 6B 6C 2C 3C Haida loop. 6C and 2C prorated too much and 3C prorated very little. Now, R1 is doing 6B 6C 2C 5C 3C Haida loop. Either that, or R1 is doing suboptimal combos. I doubt that however...

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In that same match against Tager, 5B traded with Tager's 5A, R1 was pretty close however, so even if the hitbox isn't disjointed, or isn't as disjointed as we'd like it to be, its still better in the match up, currently my 5B loses to Tager's 5A every time.

It looks like 6C was buffed overall, we have throw wiff loops back(with an assist from an optic barrel in the middle), which would imply that either 6C is faster, or its untech time is longer, this combined with how 6C can now pick up characters other than Tager after getting floored by 22B, its also possible 6C's hitbox got bigger as well.

Judging from all the dropped Haida attempts, it would lead me to believe that R1 is still experimenting with the new haida, so its possible those combos are suboptimal, we just don't know for sure yet, but I'm also assuming 6C may have better proration, in CS1, if you did the CS2 haida(on Tager) you would get very few reps before they could tech, in CS2 it looks like we are going to be averaging 10 reps give or take depending on the starter. So if 6C's p2 has gotten better, it could be the reason why 6B > 6C > 2C > 3C is so much better than before.

All of the above is purely speculation of course. To be taken with a grain of salt.

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It looks like 6C was buffed overall, we have throw wiff loops back(with an assist from an optic barrel in the middle), which would imply that either 6C is faster, or its untech time is longer, this combined with how 6C can now pick up characters other than Tager after getting floored by 22B, its also possible 6C's hitbox got bigger as well.

It'd be cool if it was actually because whiffed throw recovers more quickly in CS2 lol. I figure it's just that 6C is faster, but without the hard numbers it's a little difficult to tell. What's for sure though is that 6C BC dash 6C is possible again is due to one or more of these changes.

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with how 6C can now pick up characters other than Tager after getting floored by 22B, its also possible 6C's hitbox got bigger as well.

It works on every character from what I tested in CS1, but it wasn't worth trying on anyone other than tager, bang, jin or rachel.

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Ok, The announcer said something about "Takahashi-san is kinda like Noel-Chan" so R-1 Being female might be true.

But also called someone "Ryuuichi" (ichi = 1) so R-1 might be Ryuuichi, and thats a guys name. . .

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Ok, The announcer said something about "Takahashi-san is kinda like Noel-Chan" so R-1 Being female might be true.

But also called someone "Ryuuichi" (ichi = 1) so R-1 might be Ryuuichi, and thats a guys name. . .

Even more of a mystery now...

Also, R-1 tried to do 22B > 662B > 6C > combo but messed up and threw out an Optic Barrel. I wonder how that's gonna work. R-1 is doin' some work.

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