[CP] News & Gameplay Discussion (Old)

[Starlight777]

Oh god no, lol. Please no.

I for one welcome our new catgirl overlords lol.

[floatwater]

Sweet mother of god

[Starlight777]

Platinum/Relius changes please.

[Fluck]

A post in Noel jBBS. Dunno how legit these are.

ノエル

・JD慣性削除

・２Dの軌道がおかしい。二キャラ分飛び越えてる。２Dめくりはできない

・６B>6Cのガト削除

・ダッシュ6C出来なく？

マズル>2B>6C>BハイダーのBハイダーで受身取られる

壁はし　投げ>Bハイダー>dc>6Aで青 dc6Cは出来ない

・4Dヒット時浮く

・実質Aオプ削除

・新技チャンバーショットは壁バンする

・リボブラ追加でダウン取れるように

- j.D's inertia has been removed (My own note: I guess this means that doing dashing jump j.D moves Noel a lot further)

- 2D's trajectory is weird. It moves about two characters' worth of spacing. 2D no longer crosses up.

- 6B -> 6C gatling has been removed.

- Dash 6C doesn't come out?

- Corner grab -> B silencer -> Dash Cancel -> 6A bluebeats, Dash Cancel 6C doesn't come out.

- 4D floats on hit.

- A Optic has been removed (My own note: ? Not sure on this.)

- New technique Chamber Shot wallbounces.

- Revolver Blast has acquired a followup.

[dualseeker]

Welp... No more 2D fun for me.

[confusedxphreak]

- j.D's inertia has been removed (My own note: I guess this means that doing dashing jump j.D moves Noel a lot further)

- 2D's trajectory is weird. It moves about two characters' worth of spacing. 2D no longer crosses up.

- 6B -> 6C gatling has been removed.

- Dash 6C doesn't come out?

- Corner grab -> B silencer -> Dash Cancel -> 6A bluebeats, Dash Cancel 6C doesn't come out.

- 4D floats on hit.

- A Optic has been removed (My own note: ? Not sure on this.)

- New technique Chamber Shot wallbounces.

- Revolver Blast has acquired a followup.

Thanks. I got through some of it and got stuck. lol.

Note: I dont think Optic Barrel A has been removed because its still on her move list.

[drzero7]

woah, this Overdrive system (taking burst) is HUGE. Some chars will definitely drop in tier list or whatever. I mean, Litchi's Daisharin ISN'T a DD, but the new Overdrive. that'll weaken her alot. (Similar with Ranga's Blood Kain, Bang's Furinkazan) Then again, chars like Rachel, Tager, Hazama, Platinum, etc. are getting crazy boost. Reminds me of X-factor of Marvel3

[Chaoschao222]

Note: I dont think Optic Barrel A has been removed because its still on her move list.

Yeah, Optic C is the one that's been removed (for Chamber Shot) judging by her movelist, but maybe A is mid and B is far now?

[SkyKing]

Thanks. I got through some of it and got stuck. lol.

Note: I dont think Optic Barrel A has been removed because its still on her move list.

I think maybe they completely changed what Optic Barrel A is now. (new animation or something, perhaps?) Dash 6C loss is pretty big for those wall-carry combos, but in a way her neutral is a bit stronger now.

[dualseeker]

I think maybe they completely changed what Optic Barrel A is now. (new animation or something, perhaps?) Dash 6C loss is pretty big for those wall-carry combos, but in a way her neutral is a bit stronger now.

I'm gonna miss dash 6C, but I'm sure it's going to have it's use in some way or another.

[Fluck]

woah, this Overdrive system (taking burst) is HUGE. Some chars will definitely drop in tier list or whatever. I mean, Litchi's Daisharin ISN'T a DD, but the new Overdrive. that'll weaken her alot. (Similar with Ranga's Blood Kain, Bang's Furinkazan) Then again, chars like Rachel, Tager, Hazama, Platinum, etc. are getting crazy boost. Reminds me of X-factor of Marvel3

I wouldn't say that. It could just be buffed versions of the old DDs. For example, Bang no longer needs 4 Seals to FRKZ, which, if you ask me, is an absolute nightmare. Ragna's new BK doesn't say anything about losing health. I'm sure Daisharin and Tao's AB2 Overdrives will be even scarier versions.

[Graymalkyn]

6Bjcあり

4B必殺技キャンセルのみ

22技の用途不明。姫様が傘くるくるしてかわいい

5CC後は蛙設置はできるけど放電しない？設置後5Bで拾ってエリアルにいっちゃった

6A地上ヒットは地上喰らいになる(浮かない)

空Aロベで相手が思いのほか吹っ飛ぶ。

ヒット後の飛び方が細々と変わってる感じ。

JBが思いのほか高くあがるのかJBJCからバウンドがうまくいかなかった

ODは「一定時間、常に地上に居る時のように風回復」って感じ？今後の研究に期待

金バなくなったのいたい

more jbbs mook regarding rachel! Google translate makes very little sense so I`m not going to post the translation. Help please? ;D

[TheGreatReptar]

I dunno if anyone's commented on this yet, but it appears that bursts might come back after a while, similar to how they work in Gear and Persona. During the PV, there are two points where a character's burst icon is grayed out, during Bang and Hakumen's short intros. During Bang's, the circle is completely grey, but in Hakumen's the inner circle of the burst icon is partially filled in with red.

Hopefully bursts do recharge/come back like in Gear/Persona. I've really grown to dislike CS's burst system.

[Circuitous]

Stop requesting translations or information. You'll get it when it's posted.

[XDest]

Bang no longer needs 4 Seals to FRKZ, which, if you ask me, is an absolute nightmare.

Not true, the burst meter was greyed out when he didn't have 4 seals. It's just that FRKZ doesn't need meter now.

[Starlight777]

So that's what that was for.

[Yoshara]

Not true, the burst meter was greyed out when he didn't have 4 seals. It's just that FRKZ doesn't need meter now.

Actually it looks like he has a different move that uses seals this time.

[Pete278]

I still don't think he's a trap character personally, because a trap character is like Bridget, or the reverse in Naoto of Persona. To me a trap is a character that is unable to be seen as their proper sex unless you know it or are told it, or is nearly impossible to figure out because of strong androgyny. I would not call Amane a trap simply because his voice as stated, is male, as well as his speech overall. Jin's voice is more "femboy" than Amane's imho. Plus as I stated, his body looks clearly male to me, and paired with a clearly male voice, they're not hiding it at all. To me, when a character is obviously male, even f they look feminine, it's not a true "trap."

You can look at Amane and figure out he's a guy long before anyone questions their sexuality by being attracted to them lol.

Sorry for replying so far back, but when we had this discussion it was 3am for me and I had to sleep :P

Anyway, what do you think of Hideyoshi Kinoshita then? His voice is rather masculine, he even uses 'washi' for himself (and is the only character I can think of off the top of my head who says 'washi' and isn't an old man), but you'd be hardpressed to find someone who would say he's not a trap. There's always going to be people who find a certain character's gender obvious, but as long as there's a large number of people who get confused, its all good.

[zeth07]

Not true, the burst meter was greyed out when he didn't have 4 seals. It's just that FRKZ doesn't need meter now.

When you see him do Daifunka, it isn't grayed out, yet he doesn't have 4 seals either. Meaning it is in fact possible that he doesn't need seals for FRKZ anymore like I mentioned. While at the same time, he might now need it for the new distortion since there's a lot of "stuff" listed along with the input for it. It is probably grayed out because he already used his Overdrive or it is charging for use.

EDIT: But you can also see for Valkenhayn's clip that even at 98 seconds the icon seems like it is already ready to be activated, so I'm not entirely sure if there is in fact a waiting period for Overdrive to charge. Considering the Bursts were available immediately and you could Gold Burst at anytime, it is entirely possible characters can just do Overdrive immediately. But it might only last for 5 seconds, compared to waiting til they are 25% health and then it will last for 10 seconds (random numbers), since they mentioned it gets better if you have lower health.

Edited August 6, 2012 by zeth07

[drzero7]

yeah, since Bang's Furinkazan is not a DD, but the new overdrive system, makes sense he doesn't need 4 seals to use it, just low life and a full Overdrive charged up. So I wonder how his new seal is going to be used. (Is it going to be like Hakuman style?)

[XDest]

This is interesting, the JP BBS is talking about the CT combo timer, I wonder if it's back?

[Nakkiel]

Litchi's Daisharin ISN'T a DD, but the new Overdrive. that'll weaken her alot.

Absolutely wrong. It's entirely dependent on whether or not Daisharin can actually reap a reward when used as a mixup tool and seeing as how it's now an Overdrive, I can't see it having the proration it has now.

With the current knowledge on her Overdrive, all it does is remove her ability to force neutral/pressure for 50 meter by jumping up into the air and being a jackass

[Fluck]

I can confirm that Bang needs 4 seals for his new distortion.

[floatwater]

This is interesting, the JP BBS is talking about the CT combo timer, I wonder if it's back?

I was thinking the same thing When I looked at ragna's 5C recovery. -~-

[Vulcan422]

Yeah all we can say for certain is the new Overdrive system will definitely change the way the game and the characters are played, for better or worse.