LionHeartx Posted May 19, 2013 Posted May 19, 2013 I can kinda see that. The effects on his sword normals/specials are serious.
Starlight777 Posted May 19, 2013 Posted May 19, 2013 So does Kagura join the "Hits like a man" club with Hakumen and Azrael?
Chaoschao222 Posted May 19, 2013 Posted May 19, 2013 The crest at the end of the video is Amaterasu's.
BlackYakuzu94 Posted May 19, 2013 Posted May 19, 2013 So does Kagura join the "Hits like a man" club with Hakumen and Azrael? Poor Ragna, three games and he still doesn't have that feeling behind his moves.
TekkamanArk Posted May 19, 2013 Posted May 19, 2013 Did anyone pay attention to the images after Terumi does the super where he flips over them? A few are interesting and look like possible story images. One of them is Kagura facing down Azrael. There are a lot of Celica ones, and a few with Ragna and Celica (including one where it looks like he's handing her his sword), and one image of Trinity that I could pick out.
Juraya Posted May 19, 2013 Posted May 19, 2013 Well yeah, looks like we will see quite a few flashbacks here. Next to the ones you mentioned, I also could make out one picture of young Valk alone and one with young Valk, young Rachel and her father in there. Though I cant make out anything on the picture, which comes first after Terumi. Everything white and two figures in there. Anyone who could see something there?
TekkamanArk Posted May 19, 2013 Posted May 19, 2013 (edited) But, the Celica is the young Celica, not the older one he knew. So, it's not a flashback, unless it's a flashback Celica is having with Bloodedge. If that's the case, she's either playable with her own story, or a lot of story is from her perspective. EDIT: I'm worried about the Blazblue anime when a lot of the group is affiliated with hentai. Edited May 19, 2013 by TekkamanArk
STenSatsu Posted May 20, 2013 Posted May 20, 2013 Not really hentai, just fanservice. Both Qwaser and Mangekyuu were pretty well animated and contained a decent amount of fighting iirc though. And they've done non-echii stuff as well.
swordiris Posted May 20, 2013 Posted May 20, 2013 Another reason I'm going to pick CP up and buy all the DLC. I have faith in ASW because they care about us (people who play or train to play the game competitively.). I say this because there is a new game from NRS named Injustice gods among us. They are nerfing my favorite character Deathstroke to crap because casuals have a rough time with him. No complaints from tourney players. I sat and thought "ASW would never do that to me." If they were like NRS Arakune would be very impractical for tournament play and Tager would be even weaker. I just wish ASW was a physicl entity that I could give a big hug to for always being there for me. That is another reason I will pick up Blazblue CP.
Narroo Posted May 20, 2013 Posted May 20, 2013 Another reason I'm going to pick CP up and buy all the DLC. I have faith in ASW because they care about us (people who play or train to play the game competitively.). I say this because there is a new game from NRS named Injustice gods among us. They are nerfing my favorite character Deathstroke to crap because casuals have a rough time with him. No complaints from tourney players. I sat and thought "ASW would never do that to me." If they were like NRS Arakune would be very impractical for tournament play and Tager would be even weaker. I just wish ASW was a physicl entity that I could give a big hug to for always being there for me. That is another reason I will pick up Blazblue CP. Well, he did get nerfed to heck after CT. So, who decides when he's over powered, and when he's just right?
swordiris Posted May 20, 2013 Posted May 20, 2013 Well, he did get nerfed to heck after CT. So, who decides when he's over powered, and when he's just right? The scrubs still complained about Tager when he was crap tier though. My point is if NRS made Blazblue they would continue to nerf Tager even more. I'm happy ASW appeals to the tournament crowd rather than the casual crowd.
Yazumatto Posted May 20, 2013 Posted May 20, 2013 (edited) Well, he did get nerfed to heck after CT. So, who decides when he's over powered, and when he's just right? From what I heard, wasn't CT Tager's command throw techable... which defeated the purpose of a command throw to begin with? If that's the case, then almost any iteration of Tager is better than CT in my eyes lol. So does Kagura join the "Hits like a man" club with Hakumen and Azrael? Pretty sure Makoto is in that club too. Not everyone can hit a person hard enough to send them skidding for 20-30 feet on their faces. That and the moon thing. Edited May 20, 2013 by Yazumatto
Narroo Posted May 20, 2013 Posted May 20, 2013 From what I heard, wasn't CT Tager's command throw techable... which defeated the purpose of a command throw to begin with? I meant Arakune. He apparently could spasm on the controller and get 9000 damage.
swordiris Posted May 20, 2013 Posted May 20, 2013 I meant Arakune. He apparently could spasm on the controller and get 9000 damage. I see. The Arakune nerf was for the tourny crowd too though and not just blindly nerfing for casuals. The real mistake is what they did to Rachel after CT. That's in the past now and they learned from their mistakes.
Skye Posted May 20, 2013 Posted May 20, 2013 Well, he did get nerfed to heck after CT. So, who decides when he's over powered, and when he's just right? Everyone who knows how to fight him correctly. Sadly that list is a very small, so everyone else has to suffice. I'm sure you see the problem with that.
Hecatom Posted May 20, 2013 Posted May 20, 2013 (edited) Well, he did get nerfed to heck after CT. So, who decides when he's over powered, and when he's just right? Well, CT arakune was retarded, the implementation of his gameplay was flawed, add that there were a lot of dumb shit on certain mechanics on the game like the guard lybra for example, making it easy to abuse for him. From what I heard, wasn't CT Tager's command throw techable... which defeated the purpose of a command throw to begin with? If that's the case, then almost any iteration of Tager is better than CT in my eyes lol. His command grab was the same as the current iterations, where is techable if you do it while your oponent is on hitstun/blockstun Edited May 20, 2013 by Hecatom
BlackYakuzu94 Posted May 20, 2013 Posted May 20, 2013 So how was CT Arakune anyway? I heard he was pretty dumb.
Starlight777 Posted May 20, 2013 Posted May 20, 2013 So how was CT Arakune anyway? I heard he was pretty dumb. Curse only took 1 hit to activate, clouds did damage and he could tear you in shreds for making one small mistake at the start of the round. In retrospect Nu wasn't really much to complain about compared to him.
Skye Posted May 20, 2013 Posted May 20, 2013 He wasn't that dumb, just unorthodox. His dumbest tools were dive, cloud and re-curse. Dive proved to be hard to block due to being an overhead, being cancellable, having cross up potential and being able to go into 5k on normal and CH. Cloud had a hitbox that not only cursed on hit or block, it instantly compromised most characters who had to fight him. The cloud shield (the one that stays around Arakune) made it literally impossible for short ranged characters to approach him. Aside from that he just had some stuff that simply annoyed people and bodied those who didn't know how to fight him like j.d being a low and coming out guaranteed, 2b low profiling almost every air approach, his natural movement. Due to this, there was hardly any discernment between his good tools and the stuff that made him broken, so they nerfed everything. It's realistic to say that they will continue to nerf him in every installment, because in the 5 years BB has existed. There are a handful of players of all levels (except top level) who have no clue how to actually fight him.
Narroo Posted May 20, 2013 Posted May 20, 2013 He wasn't that dumb, just unorthodox. His dumbest tools were dive, cloud and re-curse. Dive proved to be hard to block due to being an overhead, being cancellable, having cross up potential and being able to go into 5k on normal and CH. Cloud had a hitbox that not only cursed on hit or block, it instantly compromised most characters who had to fight him. The cloud shield (the one that stays around Arakune) made it literally impossible for short ranged characters to approach him. Aside from that he just had some stuff that simply annoyed people and bodied those who didn't know how to fight him like j.d being a low and coming out guaranteed, 2b low profiling almost every air approach, his natural movement. Due to this, there was hardly any discernment between his good tools and the stuff that made him broken, so they nerfed everything. It's realistic to say that they will continue to nerf him in every installment, because in the 5 years BB has existed. There are a handful of players of all levels (except top level) who have no clue how to actually fight him. So here's the catch: How do you know that the Injustice guy just wasn't broken as well?
Hecatom Posted May 20, 2013 Posted May 20, 2013 (edited) Curse only took 1 hit to activate, clouds did damage and he could tear you in shreds for making one small mistake at the start of the round. In retrospect Nu wasn't really much to complain about compared to him. Much of the problems with nu came from the poor implementations of the game mechanics like the guard lybra, the bursts imo Of course she had some dumb shit, but mostly the real problems came by the fact that she could abuse the game mechanics like the rest of the 3 top tiers while the rest of the cast were not. He wasn't that dumb, just unorthodox. His dumbest tools were dive, cloud and re-curse. Dive proved to be hard to block due to being an overhead, being cancellable, having cross up potential and being able to go into 5k on normal and CH. Cloud had a hitbox that not only cursed on hit or block, it instantly compromised most characters who had to fight him. The cloud shield (the one that stays around Arakune) made it literally impossible for short ranged characters to approach him. Aside from that he just had some stuff that simply annoyed people and bodied those who didn't know how to fight him like j.d being a low and coming out guaranteed, 2b low profiling almost every air approach, his natural movement. Due to this, there was hardly any discernment between his good tools and the stuff that made him broken, so they nerfed everything. It's realistic to say that they will continue to nerf him in every installment, because in the 5 years BB has existed. There are a handful of players of all levels (except top level) who have no clue how to actually fight him. I pretty much remember a tournament match or something like that from gamechariot where a bang was stuck blocking helplessly until arakune crushed his guard and raped him after, the whole 3 rounds ended similarly. CT Arakune was pretty dumb, but like i said many of the problems with ct came from the game mechanics, not only from the characters. Also as far as we know, ASW doesn't really take into account the opinion of the casual crowd, i am willing to bet that they completely ignore any complaint that comes from the western players and only take in consideration the opinions of the tournament japanese players, if they take opinions in consideration of course. Edited May 20, 2013 by Hecatom
Skye Posted May 20, 2013 Posted May 20, 2013 So here's the catch: How do you know that the Injustice guy just wasn't broken as well? I have no idea what you're talking about, I just threw my two cents in solely because Arakune was mentioned. I know nothing of this conversation, the topic of it or anything. I've also never seen injustice since the launch trailer.
Narroo Posted May 20, 2013 Posted May 20, 2013 I have no idea what you're talking about, I just threw my two cents in solely because Arakune was mentioned. I know nothing of this conversation, the topic of it or anything. I've also never seen injustice since the launch trailer. Oh, okay. Some guy was complaining that some Injustice character was nerfed because "casuals" were complaining about him. I was just pointing out that there is no firm way of saying whether or not a character is broken, and asked how one can tell the difference between the character in question, and someone like Arakune.
HoudiniJr100 Posted May 20, 2013 Posted May 20, 2013 Oh, okay. Some guy was complaining that some Injustice character was nerfed because "casuals" were complaining about him. I was just pointing out that there is no firm way of saying whether or not a character is broken, and asked how one can tell the difference between the character in question, and someone like Arakune. Which character are we talking here? and should we move this to the injustice forums? I'm asking my two cents aside fact arakune was mentioned to compare to <insert nerfed guy who is most likely deathstroke here> :/
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