Ctrlaltwtf Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 well i hope if he do plans to die its only temporarily and during the time of his death he meets Bloodedge or somthing and they fight and bloodedge tells him wat he truly is but you never know ragna death might be the only way for them to escape the time loops and knowing rachel might help him during the events and a plan to bring him back so in the mean time during ragna death Amaterasu might truly awaken since ragna is the origin that caused everything to begin with since Celica making a apperance and saya a playable character on the ps3 this story is a perfect chance for bloodedge to make apperance on the console too and face ragna hopefully i cross my finger to this lol but i doubt it will happen That sounds like an ending to a cheap JRPG. Which means it's likely to happen in BB's story. I significantly doubt Ragna will die, and if he does "die" it will be highly ambiguous and there will be elements that suggest he's not actually dead.
BlackYakuzu94 Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 That sounds like an ending to a cheap JRPG. Which means it's likely to happen in BB's story. I significantly doubt Ragna will die, and if he does "die" it will be highly ambiguous and there will be elements that suggest he's not actually dead. In other words, he will be "Only Mostly Dead"
arctus32 Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 (edited) Just pure speculation here, but I reckon Ragna "dying" has something to do with the events in Phase Shift 4 in the part where Bloodedge was somehow able to return then disappear together with Rachel, and that Bloodedge is the present time Ragna somehow able to return to the past. http://i.imgur.com/lJcQorx.jpg I think it's relevant Now if only I can read Kanji then I might have a crack at translating it :V Edited February 28, 2013 by arctus32
kylehyde Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 I kind of want him to get killed, I want to see what they do with him after they "kill him." That picture of Bloodedge and Rachel is the reason why I think they will bring Bloodedge back to replace current "dead" Ragna.
harmless kitten Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 Just pure speculation here, but I reckon Ragna "dying" has something to do with the events in Phase Shift 4 in the part where Bloodedge was somehow able to return then disappear together with Rachel, and that Bloodedge is the present time Ragna somehow able to return to the past. http://i.imgur.com/lJcQorx.jpg I think it's relevant Now if only I can read Kanji then I might have a crack at translating it :V One problem: He's wearing the jacket like P0 Ragna. Why would present day Ragna wear it like that? From the one glimpse we get of him without his jacket in CS, he doesn't wear those bindings that he wears in P0 either. But the whole sequence seems bizarre. I think any explanation is gonna be like whuhhhh?
BlackYakuzu94 Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 Why does he have those bindings on his arm anyway?
harmless kitten Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 They probably have something to do with the Azure Grimoire. As a young man, Ragna wears a long glove with different bindings on his right arm. They completely cover up his Azure Grimoire. Although, the bindings he wears in Phase 0 don't actually cover his Azure Grimoire--take them off and you can see the sleeve of his right arm beneath them...so they're kind of pointless. They're probably just there to make his design cooler. I'm more bothered by how P0 Ragna never puts his damn jacket on properly. It just hangs off half his body. Looks bad.
arctus32 Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 One problem: He's wearing the jacket like P0 Ragna. Why would present day Ragna wear it like that? From the one glimpse we get of him without his jacket in CS, he doesn't wear those bindings that he wears in P0 either. But the whole sequence seems bizarre. I think any explanation is gonna be like whuhhhh? All we can really do now is play the waiting game :/ Also Ragna's appearance maybe Rachel's doing to make him more believable to be Bloodedge. Damn BB and it's story >.>
kylehyde Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 I'm more bothered by how P0 Ragna never puts his damn jacket on properly. It just hangs off half his body. Looks bad. I always thought it was because his arm had transformed into a black beast arm. So it was harder to fit in the jacket's sleeve.
Tong Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 (edited) They probably have something to do with the Azure Grimoire. As a young man, Ragna wears a long glove with different bindings on his right arm. They completely cover up his Azure Grimoire. Although, the bindings he wears in Phase 0 don't actually cover his Azure Grimoire--take them off and you can see the sleeve of his right arm beneath them...so they're kind of pointless. They're probably just there to make his design cooler. I'm more bothered by how P0 Ragna never puts his damn jacket on properly. It just hangs off half his body. Looks bad. Maybe it became this way when Celica tried to heal his arm. It also seems that the bindings are covering his gloves and the red orb. I'm more bothered by how P0 Ragna never puts his damn jacket on properly. It just hangs off half his body. Looks bad. His arm became basically just extra weight. Makes me wonder how his gameplay would be like. Edited March 1, 2013 by Tong
Chaoschao222 Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 His arm became basically just extra weight. Makes me wonder how his gameplay would be like. A gimpier Baiken.
A.T Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 (edited) I wonder - how would life-link crap work if you kill both people, and then drag one of them wia "ChronoPhantasma" nonsense back? Does it count for life-link "atleast one should be alive"? Edited March 1, 2013 by A.T
BlackYakuzu94 Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 A gimpier Baiken. I never thought of that, but holy shit, P0 Ragna is a male Baiken.
raziel12 Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 ok enough ragna death theories lets just drop it till the console version is out and move on
NovaFortuna Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 ok enough ragna death theories lets just drop it till the console version is out and move on Okay...um, so sorry if a silly question, but who is this Kagura guy/girl/being Tsubaki mentions?
harmless kitten Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 I always thought it was because his arm had transformed into a black beast arm. So it was harder to fit in the jacket's sleeve. Look in the pictures of P0. It's normal and relatively human-shaped (the fingers are clawed under the gloves, but not much more than that) except when he regains the use of it. He could easily maneuver it through the sleeve if he just used his other arm or asked Celica... @Tong: Yes, they cover most of his gloves and the red gem. There are a few pictures of P0 Ragna in the CSSMC and it's easier to see that then. @AT: You create a time paradox. P0 Ragna isn't nearly as cool as Baiken. @NovaFortuna: Colonel Kagura Mutsuki, the Black Knight. They're involved in the uprising in the NOL.
TPPR10 Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 I personally think that the reason why Bloodedge wears those binds is probally because his Azure is in so bad shape tht it handly keeps itself together and looks totally ruined.
kylehyde Posted March 2, 2013 Posted March 2, 2013 Maybe the most obvious reason is just so that they can tell the difference between Ragna and Bloodedge.
Rishtopher Posted March 2, 2013 Posted March 2, 2013 I like that I can see the bindings at least. Reminds me of Vash the Stampede. Coolest character from one of the most overrated animes I've ever watched. Dunno why, but I always thought that if Bloodedge were a playable character separate from Ragna, he would play like ABA somehow. Slow and gimpy normally, then maybe a move that triggers his Black Beast mode or something. No basis for it though, just thought it seemed cool.
mitsuyoshi Posted March 2, 2013 Posted March 2, 2013 I like that I can see the bindings at least. Reminds me of Vash the Stampede. Coolest character from one of the most overrated animes I've ever watched. Dunno why, but I always thought that if Bloodedge were a playable character separate from Ragna, he would play like ABA somehow. Slow and gimpy normally, then maybe a move that triggers his Black Beast mode or something. No basis for it though, just thought it seemed cool. I don't think Bloodedge will become a playable characters,except if you look at his condition if he going near Celica,but i think he will become a 2 stance character normal stance and reaper stance and he will have a gauge that will fill everytime you hit your opponent with your drive and if the gauge is full he will automatically change into reaper stance where he can access more super move and using his scythe,anyway this is just my though about bloodedge fighting style and drive and i really don't understand why everyone always saying that BlazBlue story is insane while it still make sense if we think about it.
Rishtopher Posted March 2, 2013 Posted March 2, 2013 2 stance character normal stance and reaper stance and he will have a gauge that will fill everytime. That's not really that different from what I said if you look at ABA as having 2 stances lol. I don't really care if he's playable or not though, just thought the idea would be cool. I was thinking if we know anything about the Mutsuki family that Kagura is from? I can't shake the feeling that that character is going to be really important because they have a title lol.
harmless kitten Posted March 2, 2013 Posted March 2, 2013 Makoto talks about them a little in the beginning of her story mode. Says that they've "gone native" in their handling of Ikaruga and now sympathize with the Ikarugan refugees more than the Library. There's been tension between them and the rest of the NOL, and now it's finally manifesting in the form of an uprising.
mitsuyoshi Posted March 2, 2013 Posted March 2, 2013 That's not really that different from what I said if you look at ABA as having 2 stances lol. I don't really care if he's playable or not though, just thought the idea would be cool. I was thinking if we know anything about the Mutsuki family that Kagura is from? I can't shake the feeling that that character is going to be really important because they have a title lol. I just want to imagine a little different style and about Mutsuki family,i think someone said in a forum (i don't remember what's the name of the forum) that Mutsuki family is the strongest out of the duodecim familly.
Tong Posted March 2, 2013 Posted March 2, 2013 I don't think Bloodedge will become a playable characters,except if you look at his condition if he going near Celica,but i think he will become a 2 stance character normal stance and reaper stance and he will have a gauge that will fill everytime you hit your opponent with your drive and if the gauge is full he will automatically change into reaper stance where he can access more super move and using his scythe,anyway this is just my though about bloodedge fighting style and drive and i really don't understand why everyone always saying that BlazBlue story is insane while it still make sense if we think about it. Isn't this like Izayoi's gameplay? Doesn't sound like a bad idea though.
Wild Candy Posted March 2, 2013 Posted March 2, 2013 I just want to imagine a little different style and about Mutsuki family,i think someone said in a forum (i don't remember what's the name of the forum) that Mutsuki family is the strongest out of the duodecim familly. Their thought to be the strongest Duodecim Family, but there in hot water with the NOL because they've been mouthing off to them after being placed in charge of the ruins of Ibukido. (At least according to Makoto in her CSE Story. But she's probably a reliable source with information like that since she's a spy for Sector Seven, and a former intel officer for the NOL.)
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