[CP] Izayoi Gameplay Discussion - Tobe! Gandamu!

[Velvien]

From my understanding, it eats up all remaining stars now. The one star thing just means you need at least one star to activate it.

[Seventh-Prodigy]

Imagine it's like Tsubaki's Mugen. 

 

I guess at least now you can Trans-Am when you're low on stock but still want to keep up pressure, or stay in GA for the mobility in certain match-ups.

Could also see using it and then switching back to normal mode. Still a questionable use of 50 Heat. Why can't they just remove the stock requirement altogether?

[Angel-tastic]

Hmm. I'm curious about the change to Trans-Am. I like that it potentially costs less stocks now, so I feel like it's even more useful now that you can get it super cheap.

On the other hand, don't you need stocks to do Trans-Am combos? What exactly are you expected to do without Valkyrie Astraea or Strike Fall?

 

Also, it's going to be nice to combo Strike Fall into Valkyrie Astraea. Now we can combo GA anti-airs without wasting rapid cancels.

You can probably also use it to extend combos that use 3C, but not Valkyrie Astraea too. It should be fun to mess around with.

[Tokkan]

http://www.famitsu.com/news/201408/07058595.html

 

Aegis Blade now has invulnerability.

Strike Fall > Mirage Thruster is now a thing as well.

[Safros]

http://www.famitsu.com/news/201408/07058595.html

 

Aegis Blade now has invulnerability.

Strike Fall > Mirage Thruster is now a thing as well.

So she's finally getting a DP?

[PrettyLady00]

:OOO my body is ready

Im sort of confused though... how much would we get from cancelling into tele from strike fall? Also I may be off but is he saying something abouy improving ease of use at the end of that paragraph?

[crimsonstardust]

Ok I am really happy to hear that Aegis blade will have some more uses now, hated always having to snipe for the right moments for Phorizer or 6A. 

[Ichipoo]

We FUCKING Made It.

[Rhannmah]

Aegis Blade now has invulnerability

Please no, we don't *** need this

 

unless it's just head invul from frame 1, that I'd be fine with

[Angel-tastic]

At last, our patience and faith have been rewarded. Our character can finally defend herself! I'm so hype for next version. Aegis Blade DP FTW!

[SixWingedAngel]

  Let people cry while we climb our way to the top 

 

I'm loving it

 

I just hope the new cancel routes will not take away the old ones.

[Angel-tastic]

Hmm. I was just thinking more about the Strike Fall -> Valkyrie Astraea change, and now that I think about it, that should make TK Noir Edge a legit overhead now, since that means that she can now do Noir Edge -> Strike Fall -> Valkyrie Astraea -> combo, so now that's not just a rapid cancel gimmick anymore. I hope that's how it works out anyway. 14f overhead FTW!

[PrettyLady00]

Im curious... right now it looks like everythings coming up nicely for izayoi. Im concerned about what sort of potentially negative changes will come with these buffs...surely theres a tradeoff somewhere?

[crimsonstardust]

I saw something in the general gameplay thread where they are planning to take a few things out like 623B~214B 623B, I saw something for after Asteria~214B you can't do 5B after it anymore. It's just stuff I saw floating around, I'm just hoping Izayoi doesn't loose to much in return for a DP.

[Rhannmah]

Goddamn, there's so little info about Izayoi from this loketest...

 

Why does no one play her ;_;

[crimsonstardust]

Goddamn, there's so little info about Izayoi from this loketest...

 

Why does no one play her ;_;

My thoughts exactly...

[Pen_Ninja]

So there's a short Izayoi segment in the new 2.0 trailer

 

http://youtu.be/yL-JfSiGGWM?t=1m39s

stuff > 623B~D > Valkyrie Astraea (AKA ~6D)

 

I wonder if that's a true combo now? if it is, then it'd have to be changing the properties on strike fall to allow a bounce which means a few things:

 

- Easier, less stock dependent random mid-screen air hit confirms where 623B > 214D > j.C > j.C > 236C > 214D > etc aren't required.

- Possible corner routes along the lines of strike fall > 2C/5C

- Possible issues with the strike fall > j.C safe jump

 

Thoughts?

[Justice7541]

Most likely Strike Fall will get some added recovery so silly stuff like Strike Fall > 5C won't work.  If it does though then lol.

[Celerity]

Yeah, if Strike Fall is only cancelable when you reach the ground (I haven't seen otherwise?), then some kind of landing recovery would be implied. I think this is quietly a nerf to strike fall oki, but a buff to AA confirms/stock usage/overall damage.

[Ichipoo]

One of the new videos from Famitsu shows Izayoi 2.0 changes

 

http://youtu.be/CnS0_kfLMnA?list=UUtPyU9cJgvvgH03PQKgaucA#t=7m55s

 

623C is finally a true DP; ... > Strike Fall > 6D > ... is a new route, also her teleports look faster? Plus it seems like they've buffed Trans-Am?

[Justice7541]

One of the new videos from Famitsu shows Izayoi 2.0 changes

 

http://youtu.be/CnS0_kfLMnA?list=UUtPyU9cJgvvgH03PQKgaucA#t=7m55s

 

623C is finally a true DP; ... > Strike Fall > 6D > ... is a new route, also her teleports look faster? Plus it seems like they've buffed Trans-Am?

 

Looks like Transam is now doable with any number of stocks but it still requires four for full duration.  Otherwise it starts out partially empty according to the number of stocks you had, i.e. 1 stock = 25% gauge.

[skd]

Izayoi also has new cancels, definitely saw 6A 214D, dunno about cancel properties though. Run speeds look pretty different? I dont know if its just aspect ratio, but ive got a feeling. Also, izayoi has a new high block animation, haha.

[crimsonstardust]

Oh man, just seeing that Aegis blade is a DP now, man I can't help but feel very happy I don't have to use meter or a well timed 6A to fight people off. So does that mean Aegis blade on block can still be teleport canceled? So just cause I can't read Japanese, so for trans am, does it consume a maximum of 4 and a minimum of 1 right? So was it mentioned if its possible to control how many gets consumed like pressing X number of buttons = how many it consumes or is it always gonna take 4 and/or whatever remain stocks you have under 4?

[Rhannmah]

Oh man, just seeing that Aegis blade is a DP now, man I can't help but feel very happy I don't have to use meter or a well timed 6A to fight people off. So does that mean Aegis blade on block can still be teleport canceled? So just cause I can't read Japanese, so for trans am, does it consume a maximum of 4 and a minimum of 1 right? So was it mentioned if its possible to control how many gets consumed like pressing X number of buttons = how many it consumes or is it always gonna take 4 and/or whatever remain stocks you have under 4?

 

Considering aegis blade has a lot more recovery now, i'm guessing it can't be teleport canceled.

 

I assume trans-am uses up all remaining stocks up to 4.

 

Strike fall also seems to be somewhat hard knockdown, but very short?

 

Valkyrie astraea still seems comboable midscreen.

 

Need more info, the two matches that were shown don't reveal much of what's new.

[Rhannmah]

There was a nico stream late at night where a Izayoi was rolling on everyone. Had to go to sleep, but here's some things I garnered from those matches:

 

 

Her DP is most probably not teleport cancellable and has increased recovery, launches backwards and not as high

 

Her teleports seem to be faster; at least the B one since 5B > 5C > 236B > 214B > 2A is possible

 

In overdrive mode, her valkyrie astraea does like 3 hits while going all over the place and her OD combos look like utter badass

 

She seems a bit faster in general, but choppy, low framerate video can give a distorted impression