Vulcan422 Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 Thanks, is AC or #R Eddie stronger and by how much, just to get a better perspective on how strong he was in #R. There is a reason why S Tier in Reload was just called Eddie Tier.
Kyosuke Kagami Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 Why are you still calling ZATO SAMA~ "Eddie"? Makes no sense to me Also, his #R version had such a lol time dealing damage. Heck, even his 6K was stupid (it staggers, has a FRC point and I think it's even safe on block). The moment MAWAREEEE stopped raising the guard bar (see: Slash)... lol
TheRealBobMan Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 That bed is small enough that it can stay on his back while he's kneeling? Even though he's probably only tall enough to reach Sol's nipples when standing? Hopefully BedMan will be the bed's name, and Insomnia Boy will be the name of the guy/kid nailed to it. I just can't call this guy a man when Testament is manlier. Oh, anyone notice the writing on Zato's gloves up on the hem near his bicep? Did he have that in older character art? That Invite Hell image with the giant hand on screen looks awesome, and the drill itself is massive. Now I can't wait to see what other updates he might have during the loketest. I don't know what to think of Bedman though. I'll have to sleep on it.
BladeOfJustice7 Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 There is a reason why S Tier in Reload was just called Eddie Tier. Wow sounds like he was stupid strong in #R, and AC Eddie was heaven sent when compared to his #R iteration. Why are you still calling ZATO SAMA~ "Eddie"? Makes no sense to me Also, his #R version had such a lol time dealing damage. Heck, even his 6K was stupid (it staggers, has a FRC point and I think it's even safe on block). The moment MAWAREEEE stopped raising the guard bar (see: Slash)... lol Was Zato also amazing in Slash? I don't know what to think of Bedman though. I'll have to sleep on it. These puns, they cannot be stopped...
Betto Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 Wonder how Faust is going to pull his Kancho super on Bedman lol - his behind is protected by the bed so I won't be surprised if we see a close up of the bedmech's shocked(?) "face" rather than the dude on the bed itself.
Kyosuke Kagami Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 No, Zato was utter shit in Slash. No more raising bar like a retarded, flying was unsafe as ****, etc.
SoWL Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 Oh, anyone notice the writing on Zato's gloves up on the hem near his bicep? Did he have that in older character art? Most characters got some text added to their designs, if you didn't notice. I think only Sol, Ky, and Robo-Ky had it before.
Phrekwenci Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 I'm getting a Zappa vibe from Bedman. I think all those holy grenades, arms and buzzsaws will be stances/summons. Disagree. Just because a character has arms doesn't mean it will have stances. Same goes for grenades (if you mean projectiles, which I don't see any of yet) and other attached weapons. Zappa and Bedman are both weird, but we know Zappa's mechanics very well now. We know nothing about how Bedman works or what his playstyle will entail (long range, short range, grappler, stance, speed, charge etc).
Henaki Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 No, Zato was utter shit in Slash. No more raising bar like a retarded, flying was unsafe as ****, etc. And by shit, you mean B tier?
Luminos564 Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 Wonder how Faust is going to pull his Kancho super on Bedman lol - his behind is protected by the bed so I won't be surprised if we see a close up of the bedmech's shocked(?) "face" rather than the dude on the bed itself. Maybe the bed has some easy access compartment? The kid is utterly both strapped and nailed to that bed so he obviously needs to do the No.2 from time to time which means Faust's long and cold fingers will reach their intended target.
Kyosuke Kagami Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 And by shit, you mean B tier? wha Last time I checked he was C- in Slash. It was his lowest historical ranking
HolyOrderChipp Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 Well, isn't "not clearly the best character in the game" bad, for an Eddie? I'm sure Eddie players must consider that F- tier and beneath them. (Well, I don't particularly mean to slander Eddie players. I'm sure they're perfectly nice people. Just not when they're doing unblockables.)
Kyosuke Kagami Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 Who's Eddie We're talking about ZATO SAMA~ here )<
SolxBaiken Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 Eh, I don't think Bedman is all that "weird" or even whacky [not to the degree that you all are reacting] but he certainly looks interesting, from his 1 screencap his legs [limp?] actually touch the ground [thanks retractable end!] so it'll be interesting to see how he plays out. Actually glad he isn't a hulking behemoth, that was literally my only fear. Zato and Eddie look pretty cool, like the new design, and considering how well Faust transferred over, can't wait to see them in action. Can't wait for this to release in arcades, but still won't reach maximum hype till Baiken is announced [hopefully in the first wave of console exclusives].
Kyosuke Kagami Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 They're taking quite a bit to announce Testy, Anji, Robo Ky and JAM
Luminos564 Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 I'm more anxious to see Zappa. Jam would be a lovely bonus though.
dehumanizer Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 (edited) wha Last time I checked he was C- in Slash. It was his lowest historical ranking You are indeed correct. http://www.norematch.com/2011/10/20/tier-lists-for-older-guilty-gear-games/ also http://www.dustloop.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-10037.html They can never seem to get the balance right for eddie/zato, he's either really good like in XX,Reload, and AC, or really bad like in Slash and ACR. Edited November 27, 2013 by dehumanizer
Starlight777 Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 I don't know what's scarier: The fact that Bedman is pinned to the bed or how amazingly close that trace over of his silhouette was.
Kyosuke Kagami Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 You are indeed correct. http://www.norematch.com/2011/10/20/tier-lists-for-older-guilty-gear-games/ also http://www.dustloop.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-10037.html They can never seem to get the balance right for eddie/zato, he's either really good like in XX,Reload, and AC, or really bad like in Slash and ACR. IIRC he was kinda average in GGX. Of course, considering some chars had a lot of FDC bullshit, I'm not surprised.
BladeOfJustice7 Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 Most characters got some text added to their designs, if you didn't notice. I think only Sol, Ky, and Robo-Ky had it before. That was because GG was unable to fit any extra detail in the sprites in earlier iterations. But yes you are right about that, only Ky Sol and Robo-Ky. I mean even now you can see HOPE and FREE written on their beltbuckles in actual gameplay. That's revolutionary :o The extra writing he puts on characters is always some heavy intellectual stuff, so I can't wait to see what's written on them like "Heaven created man for its own reason. Men respect men for their own sake". Or That Man's word being PROTEUS, like how it is with HOPE for Ky and FREE for Sol, or even Sin with OATH and Raven with LIVE. They all have some sort of intellectual meaning behind them.. With that said I'll probably buy the Xrd illustration book or wtv when it inevitably comes out.
Henaki Posted November 28, 2013 Posted November 28, 2013 wha Last time I checked he was C- in Slash. It was his lowest historical ranking He hovered in the B-/Arguably C+ range for most of the game. He absolutely was not shit, but he wasn't S either.
Jocelot Posted November 28, 2013 Posted November 28, 2013 Lol, nice to see after all these years GG character designs are still out there. Can't wait til next week to see this dude in action, I am incredibly curious to see what kind of character he is. Also, Eddie looks as awesome as ever. The buzzsaw is back (although I think we all had little doubt.)
Destin Posted November 28, 2013 Posted November 28, 2013 It was pretty much all the guard bar that made #R eddie what he was. He didn't lose all that much in his move to Slash, but the system change to projectiles not raising guard meter moved him to lower middle tier (Which is a perfectly fine place for a character to be).
Sym_ Posted November 28, 2013 Posted November 28, 2013 So... I provide real info? http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/8366/rv6y.png
Kyosuke Kagami Posted November 28, 2013 Posted November 28, 2013 >eddie Guys, you make me cry. And you make ZATO SAMA~'s memory cry too. C+? Seeing how stupidly difficult was to use him in Slash, I can't imagine what you say lol
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