Your pet-peeves netplaying.

[Lucalibur]

I've actually had plenty of Nu practise, at least in Extend. I can see your point, though. I don't think it'll be a match-up I'll ever really like, but I guess I might as well try to make it tolerable.

This is a great way to look at it. There are certain matchups you will never enjoy, and I can tell from the chars you've got listed zoners aren't exactly on the top of the favorites list. However, it's specifically because of that reason that you should try your best to learn those matchups, because they're the ones that really test you as a player.

[fogelstrom]

I've actually had plenty of Nu practise, at least in Extend. I can see your point, though. I don't think it'll be a match-up I'll ever really like, but I guess I might as well try to make it tolerable.

Not like I'm trying to bully you into doing what I want with reason and logic but as said, just telling my side and reasoning. The EU scene is small and tourneys few and far between so if you'd ever choose to attend one it would be crap if you'd match up against a Nu player. Also even online there is a really limited set of players to play against and not shunning people will only help you improve your game.

[Elochai]

This conversation about V-13 reminds me of a message I got once whilst playing P4U. A player told me that I "play like a bitch" and "it's not you, it's the character (Elizabeth)". Hilariously so, this guy went on to never play me again because Elizabeth is "too much for Akihiko".

I would agree though in saying that one should play match-ups even if they're not entirely desirable/fun. Playing against a select set of characters/players can give you a bunch of specific/bad habits that could potentially hurt your play overall.

[susano]

I've actually had plenty of Nu practise, at least in Extend. I can see your point, though. I don't think it'll be a match-up I'll ever really like, but I guess I might as well try to make it tolerable.

I hate fighting Hazama, Ragna, Tager, Taokaka, Nu, and Kokonoe but I just bite my lip and realize I have to learn the matchups one way or another. I hear you on that and actually this makes me realize that I should also be more tolerable of the matches I hate and learn them.

[BloodWolF]

As a Nu player, I still get a decent amount of RQs and hate-mail usually with the tone of "Your character is cheap/I hate your fcking character/etc.", so you're not alone in the hate of playing certain characters, and you're correct in that this game is for fun. If you're not enjoying it, then there isn't a reason for it to be in your console or to go to pay to go play someone in it competitively. If you're going to play it competitively, then you don't need us to tell you how important MU experience is.

Ironically for me, the MUs I dislike are not necessarily the ones that are horrible for me. Tao, Valk, Jin, and Kokonoe for me are really bad, but I don't mind playing a Valk or a Tao vs a Jin or Kokonoe. Certain characters like Jin,Ragna, Noel, Kokonoe, Terumi, just leave a bad taste in my mouth after the match. I mean no disrespect to those who play those characters, but that's just how I feel. My approach is a little different though. I think if I play them enough, perhaps their "derpiness" won't bother me as much, so I try to do that.

Now as a pet peeve. I guess one of mine would be people who say that people "aren't worth their time" or "don't deserve to play them" because the other person is a "scrub". I can understand that there are cases where the other guy is really bad and NOT willing to learn, but that's usually not the case. I also understand that you want to spend the time you have playing people who have played to your understanding of the game, thus getting more out of it for your time. However, I don't think this merits putting yourself on a pedestal and treating those who are still learning like garbage. Why not give em a few rounds and let give it their all so they can both benchmark their progress and gain some replays to review. I think this goes for those who will instantly switch to their subs or play only one round with their main and switch..as if to use the notmymain/wonwithasub option-select. Again, not always the case as people still need sub experience, however give the people a go at the meat and potatoes too.

[Wonderswan]

While I completely agree with most of you saying you should always play your bad/boring match-ups, I don't think many of you were CT Hakumen players. XD

Seriously, Arakune and Nu were 2 of the dumbest match-ups I've played in recent memory. It was a long time ago, but that shit felt like Ivan Ooze levels of lame. lol I forget who had that quote on here for the longest time, it was something like 'Hakumen vs Arakune is like a grown man punching a baby in a stroller'. It was 100% true, and not even remotely fun to play, unless you were just using ranked to practice your instant blocking.

Also to comment on that whole rapid and back dash at the end of the round. That was always a sign of respect as far as I can remember, especially in a game where you can mash their dead body. Backing off is like 100% respect.

Also, fuck people who run after 1 loss, and fuck people who switch characters after you trash their main. So lame, especially if the matches were close. I just read this as 'oh well my shit is figured out, guess i'll save face by playing like ass with a character I can't even call a sub'. You're bad, and you should feel bad.

Edited January 15, 2014 by Wonderswan

[Auburn Notes]

Also to comment on that whole rapid and back dash at the end of the round. That was always a sign of respect as far as I can remember, especially in a game where you can mash their dead body. Backing off is like 100% respect.

Thats news to me. Signs of respect I'm more familiar with are taunting each other as soon as the match starts, sort of a bow to each other, and simply sending a gg after the match is played.

If most people really mean it as respect, I'll remember that.

[TheArm05]

I would never taunt at the start of a match. That seems like a pretty dumb way of losing half my life in BB. The GGs after the match is just standard online game courtesy although I only usually send one to people I played 3+ matches.

After you win you can do anything you want for a second or so. Sometimes I try to finish my combo. Sometimes I rapid. Sometimes I Azrael 3D the corpse because thats my favorite move in the game. I don't mean it as disrespect I am just having fun. Some people just take things too seriously.

In CT the corpse beating lasted A LOT longer. At least you don't have to deal with entire corpse combos anymore.

[LeDom]

and fuck people who switch characters after you trash their main. So lame, especially if the matches were close. I just read this as 'oh well my shit is figured out, guess i'll save face by playing like ass with a character I can't even call a sub'. You're bad, and you should feel bad.

I must confess I'm somewhat guilty of this. Not that I switch because I got beaten but more along the lines of ''I've been playing Bullet a lot so now I feel like switching to Makoto'' and vice versa...I hope that doesn't make me a bad person.

[OutlawVinegar]

I must confess I'm somewhat guilty of this. Not that I switch because I got beaten but more along the lines of ''I've been playing Bullet a lot so now I feel like switching to Makoto'' and vice versa...I hope that doesn't make me a bad person.

It doesn't.

ITT, my pet peeve: forcing one's opinions on what a FG should be on other people. Either that, or failing entirely to read between the lines.

Someone does RCs/OMCs/corpse beats? They're entitled to it; they won the match/gained the meter, so they can do as they please. I personally OMC Supers if they've already killed and I want to get the animations for them over with.

Someone is dodging you? Sometimes there are actual reasons ("I don't enjoy fighting this character", "the lag bothers me enough to affect my game", "I want to focus on a different matchup today", "I don't feel like I'm learning anything new/one of us is obviously much stronger than the other"). Sometimes they're someone who cares a lot about their PSR/e-cred and doesn't want to lose, etc. Just move on.

Your opponent keeps on switching characters? This isn't tournament, it's netplay. If I've learned multiple characters well enough, I'm going to want to switch it up; it's the whole reason people learn subs in the first place. If my subs are bad, try looking at it as a sign of respect; the other person thinks you're good enough that they want to use you to learn a matchup, or just to see what cool stuff you might happen to know.

If you really want to fight that guy's Relius rather than his Platinum, try messaging him? Invite them to a Player Room? It's probably going to be more productive than 40-odd pages of the same bellyaching.

[Auburn Notes]

It doesn't.

ITT, my pet peeve: forcing one's opinions on what a FG should be on other people.

It's probably going to be more productive than 40-odd pages of the same bellyaching.

First of all, nobody is forcing anything. Second of all, you didn't seem to have trouble adding to a thread you think is just bellyaching.

Nobody is "entitled " to act like a shithead because they won a game and it'll never net respect. Not from me anyway.

My last piece as far as this thread is concerned. Good day, all.

[Airk]

Your opponent keeps on switching characters? This isn't tournament, it's netplay. If I've learned multiple characters well enough, I'm going to want to switch it up; it's the whole reason people learn subs in the first place. If my subs are bad, try looking at it as a sign of respect; the other person thinks you're good enough that they want to use you to learn a matchup, or just to see what cool stuff you might happen to know.

If you really want to fight that guy's Relius rather than his Platinum, try messaging him? Invite them to a Player Room? It's probably going to be more productive than 40-odd pages of the same bellyaching.

This happens to me in player rooms all the time. I understand if people are like "Well, I dunno how good this guy is, so I'll start with my subs..." but the reverse is obnoxious "We just had a somewhat onesided matched when you picked your main; Why are you now picking 'subs' that you can barely combo with? Can we do our best to have good matches here instead of me just curbstomping you?"

[Kriegdrache]

In CT the corpse beating lasted A LOT longer. At least you don't have to deal with entire corpse combos anymore.

FRKZ/Mugen at the end of the round was the most scumbag thing on the planet, it was great.

Also, I always rapid if I have the meter and I win the round. If they're an asshole or shittalk, I'll Haku 6B them. OSU FUCKERS.

Also, on the whole switching to subs things, I'll do it if I'm not feeling my main at that point of time, for example, If Im trying to play Valk and the connection isn't too hot, I'm not gonna play him again, as I'll just get mad, so Ill switch to a character who I'm more comfortable with in that connection, like Azrael. I mean no disrespect and if someone thinks Im being a dick, I'm happy to explain and if they say "hey man, let me play your valk" I'm sure I can muster up the gusto to give it another go.

[WintySoSolo]

my pet peeve is when I don't win

for some reason it happens all the time

[Wild Candy]

One of my pet peeves is just when people say that a character is "Useless" competitively.

True, while their are some characters who have it a little easier with system mechanics, most of the time it's going to take in account whose the better player in terms of skill.

Since I usually play Makoto, or in P4A's case, Naoto. I have to deal with quite a bit of this...

For starters, while Makoto has the shortest range in BlazBlue, as of CP, her damage output is the most consistent CP, and she actually has one of the most practical okizeme in the game when in the corner, and her pressure is riffled with nasty frame traps and some mix ups that can be hard to read. Lastly, her defensive options are rather decent when compared to other characters, having a DP, A Parry, and a strong Back Dash and fast jab.

What ever you do, please don't call a character useless, or Unviable, simply based on their placement in tiers. Their all useful and dangerous in the right hands.

[Lucalibur]

my pet peeve is when I don't win

for some reason it happens all the time

I really wish I could sig each and every one of your posts sometimes.

[susano]

my pet peeve is when I don't win

for some reason it happens all the time

I can somehow relate to this. I know you can't win all the time but there are moments where I should have won certain matches and because of lag or screwing something up I can usually land in training mode...I tend to get very annoyed.

But in the end, it still pushes me to keep going.

[WintySoSolo]

ok but seriously

i find it annoying when

the other guy manages to read my mind

and learns that I don't know how to approach

so they just sit there

and like 5B/6A me whenever i walk/jump at them

forever

it makes me cry irl

[Elochai]

Pick Ragna, and run up DP.

[susano]

ok but seriously

i find it annoying when

the other guy manages to read my mind

and learns that I don't know how to approach

so they just sit there

and like 5B/6A me whenever i walk/jump at them

forever

it makes me cry irl

I actually fought a Noel who would anti-air me every time I approached...until I started baiting him and won like seven matches in a row.

Pick Ragna, and run up DP.

Or that.

[Lucalibur]

Pick Ragna, and run up DP.

You would be surprised by how often I do this with a serious look on my face. I think most people that play me know that when I pick Ragna, half of the time I should be 5Bing I will be DPing instead. More at neutral than at wakeup.

I think one of my pet peeves is something that helped me develop bad netplay habits, aka people mashing buttons\jumps during pressure. Because of that I learned to frame trap and\or to keep strings tight rather than attempt stuff with large openings such as overheads, which definitely hurt my game. I have mostly gotten past that I think, but it's still one of those "SIT STILL AND LET ME DO FANCY STUFF YOU SHIT" things for me.

[WintySoSolo]

i actually do that

one time this guy picked hazama and taught me that even if you bait his faggot faggot kick thing you can never punish it ever

i cried a lot that day and kept playing him

my pet peeve is that i'm bad at this game

[Elochai]

I sincerely believe that run up DP is a legitimate tactic. It's a hilarious mindgame. I DP people on their wake-up, and I even DP during my own pressure (for this, I'd keep 50 meter though). I usually wouldn't DP during my wake-up though.

Seriously, Ragna 623C is way too good to not use it a lot, and in a variety of ways.

[relius clover]

Biggest pet peeve is when I play Koko and people complain about her being broken even though I didn't do any of the 'broken' shit, just 2k BnB's, like ssoooo op amirite?

[Kriegdrache]

run up DP is the best thing since walk up throw in SF4.

Also one of my legit pet peeves is people mirror matching you when they dont know how to play the character. 5-5, more like 10-0