[CP] Noel Vermillion - Gameplay Discussion

[LunaKage]

The official Gameplay Discussion thread for Noel Vermillion in BlazBlue Chrono Phantasma.

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[Alpha152]

I'll be streaming for a little bit tonight and tomorrow night!

http://www.twitch.tv/fkudelta

[confusedxphreak]

Does Noel have two Astrals? I swear I saw NOL Noel use her old Astral...o.o Saw her use the old Astral and then the new one.

Edited October 24, 2013 by confusedxphreak

[Chaoschao222]

Yes, as the famitsu article stated, you can use both of them with NOL Noel.

[confusedxphreak]

Yes, as the famitsu article stated, you can use both of them with NOL Noel.

That's pretty neat. I didn't look through that article, so I missed that bit. Thanks.

[Nemesis]

I'll be streaming for a little bit tonight and tomorrow night!

http://www.twitch.tv/fkudelta

Whaaaaa? Your psn is fkudelta? We had games just alil while ago before my ISP sploded - that was you?!

Edit : I see you grinning like dork while freeze framing noel astral lol

Edited October 24, 2013 by Nemesis

[Canine]

I completed her Challenge 30 if anyone possibly wants me to blatantly state how I did it. (The challenge being get 100 hits on a combo)

[LunaKage]

haven't gotten to touch the game yet due to work, but I'm gonna grind hard when I get home.

[Alpha152]

Yes please do (I'm too lazy to find a combo that long) -_-

[LunaKage]

my goal is to find long combos.

it probably needs a bunch of d 6C, and two OD fenrirs.

[blackhybrid]

Yes please do (I'm too lazy to find a combo that long) -_-

I consider myself in the same situation lol.

[Alpha152]

Streaming more if anyone has stuff they want me to test or watch me fail combos :V

[LiveWireX]

So, I don't mean to go off topic here, but someone mentioned NOL costume Noel has 2 Astrals? Does that mean she still plays like normal CP Noel, but just has her old Astral? And if so, does that mean she can still combo into it if you don't go for the new one?

[Alpha152]

Yes. When playing NOL Noel input 214214C for her old astral, and yes you are able to use both of them.

[LiveWireX]

Sweet, and here I was thinking I'd done my last Combo-Astral. Though, that being said, I'd almost kind of rather stick with CP Noel for most of it because once you get a taste for comboing into your Astral on people, you can kind of get addicted to it and cause yourself to really mess up if you obsess over it. At least, that's true with me sometimes, so I kinda think it'd be better to not have the option at all until I get the hang of things more.

[Demon Wind Bomb]

They should have made the option available to both Noels but whatever.

[Canine]

Alrighty, I'll just post how I did her 30

j4D FC, (d5C, d6C) x2, 214A, 2B, 6C, 6B, 6D, d6C, d2D, d6B, 22C, 6C (2), jcOD, OD Fenrir x2

[Alpha152]

Here's the list of characters that you can do the 6B > MF route in the corner.

Ragna, Noel, Azrael, Arakune, Tsubaki, Rachel, Bang, Kagura, Jin, and Hakumen.

[LunaKage]

A bit of sad news...

2B doesn't gatling into itself twice anymore.

2C doesn't combo into 3C on crouching hit.

d.5C doesn't combo into d.6C on standing without fatal.

6B isn't jump cancelable on hit anymore (not a big deal, but an interesting change)

Fuck Amane's hitbox.

Now for some good news:

Corner Fatal j.4D > d.6C > 214A > 2B > 6C > j.236C > 5A > 5C > sj.C > j.D > d.4D > d.2D > d.6B > 236D > 6C(2) > j.OD > Fenrir > Fenrir works, and does 7k.

Corner CH 236C > 5C > sj.C > j.D > d.4D > d.2D > d.6B > d.4D > 214D > 66 > 2B > 6C > 4D > 236D > 66C(2) > j.OD > Fenrir > Fenrir also works, and does 6.7k

Careful with double Fenrir on Amane though, because as I've said, fuck his hitbox.

[00Bubbles00]

Interesting. So what does combo into d.6C on standing opponent on non CH?

[mMarikom]

I think d.4D goes into d.6C but it's situational and I don't remember the specifics. I definitely recall seeing re-stand combos using d.4C to bring the opponent from crouching to standing so that d.4C d.6C 214A can be done instead of spending 50 meter on 236D RC 214A...but IIRC that combo starts from crouching so that kinda defeats the purpose of that knowledge...

Edited October 25, 2013 by mMarikom

[LunaKage]

only certain characters can get hit by d.4D > d.6C

your best bet for a standard drive confirm is to force crouch with d.6B first.

[00Bubbles00]

Does d.5D > d.6C still work on standing opp, non-CH?

If not, then I guess that solves the mystery of the using MF in combos.

[mMarikom]

Also another question: Does anyone know which characters the drive pickup from j.D doesn't work on? From sj.C j.D standard seems to be d.6C d.2D d.6B but so far on Relius and Terumi I've had to use d.5C instead of d.2D

[LunaKage]

for a drive ender into oki I've had success with:

j.D d.6A d.5C 22B

or

j.D d.2D d.6A d.5C 22B

doesn't work on Amane though, looks like he can't get oki'd without the juggled 6B